The War on Drugs

[jimbrown 0]

Now I hear alot about "conspiracy theorists" on this site.

Everytime anyone takes a view regarding 9-11 which opposes the "officialy accepted government conspiracy theory" y'all come out of the woodwork to shut the naysayer down!

They are just a "conspiracy theorist".

How dare they while the survivors are suffering with the memory!!!


Well here are some facts.

No not about 9-11 but about the war on drugs.

The war on drugs has left the US with the largest prison population per capita than any other nation in the world.

The war on drugs was declared during the Reagan administration.
This was the time when the first George Bush was head of the CIA.
This is also the time when the CIA was caught running drugs in massive quantities into the United States.

Yes that is a fact . It is not theory, but fact.

The intent of the war on drugs was not to stop drug use or trafficking but rather to eliminate the competition.

The elder George Bush had a code name . It was "poppy".


Since the start of the war in Afghanistan heroin production in that country has increased more than 100 fold.

Heroin traffick into this country and to Russia has gone through the roof.

Who do you think is kinda overseeing what goes into and out of Afghanistan about right now?


So, is this war on drugs really about stopping drugs or about who profitts?

And the war on terror?


Peace,
Jim B

[airdvr 210]

Unwinable

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[SpeedRacer 1]

Nice double-blind crap you've set up here.

Now anyone who disagrees with the war on drugs gets lumped in with theb 9/11 truthers. Great.

Speed Racer
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[jimbrown 0]

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Nice double-blind crap you've set up here.

Now anyone who disagrees with the war on drugs gets lumped in with theb 9/11 truthers. Great.

LOL!
I never thought of it like that but I'm pretty fuckin' good aren't I?

Or should they all be in the same category?????

Peace,
Jim B

[Amazon 7]

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Nice double-blind crap you've set up here.

Now anyone who disagrees with the war on drugs gets lumped in with theb 9/11 truthers. Great.

LOL!
I never thought of it like that but I'm pretty fuckin' good aren't I?

Or should they all be in the same category?????

Peace,
Jim B

If truthers wish to practice cranial rectal insertion that vociferously... I fully support their right to get that fucker as far up there as they possibly can

[kelpdiver 2]

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Since the start of the war in Afghanistan heroin production in that country has increased more than 100 fold.

And the reason why is that prior to the war, the Taliban were chopping up the drug producers for immorality. Had nothing to do with Bush or the US, other than the Taliban now wanted the money to fight.

[normiss 801]

Nixon started the War on Drugs, not Reagan.
Reagan was "Just Say No" - equally as successful.

[freethefly 6]

Without drugs, the DEA and a whole lot of other law enforcement people are out of a job. Allowing a steady flow of drugs into our country ensures them steady employment. The U.S. government allows it and supports the drug cartels as well as the cottage prison industry. It's dirty business as usual. Nothing new.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[freethefly 6]

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Nixon started the War on Drugs, not Reagan.
Reagan was "Just Say No" - equally as successful.

We could take it back even further to Harry J. Anslinger's reefer madness campaign.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[normiss 801]

Agreed - although Nixon was the first one to 'declare war on drugs'.
Anslinger's campaign was anti-marijuana, the tax acts and creation of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics I think were the first efforts by the government to control and legislate the distribution, sale, and use of what they considered dangerous drugs.

The fact the government classifies weed as a schedule 1 narcotic while cocaine, morphine, and meth are classified as schedule 2 drugs still confuses me. I think this also sends a clear message as to how fucked up the government really is. You ever know anyone with a prescription for meth?

[SpeedRacer 1]

I must have missed the Constitutional ammendment that gave the government the right to police the insides of our bodies.

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[freethefly 6]

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You ever know anyone with a prescription for meth?

It is given quite frequently to children to control ADHD.

http://mental-health.emedtv.com/methamphetamine/what-is-methamphetamine-used-for.html

I cannot help but to think that this is part of the problem with kids later on turning to street meth when their Desoxyn is no longer available to them.
Desoxyn is an extremely addictive drug and has fatal side effects.
I have known people, over the years, whom had said that meth calms them down and helps them to concentrate.
Yet, the federal government still claims that marijuana is a highly addictive drug, can cause overdose death (as of yet, in thousands of years of use, not one death), and leads to hard drugs.
What is even more amazing, is there are people today who actually believe this is true. Some of those people are right here on this site.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[normiss 801]

Agreed.

The sheeple should educate themselves and stop the blind trust in a government.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

If only the war on drugs was a bit more effective, it might save us from some of your ramblings...

[JohnRich 4]

It's possible for a war to be unwinable, and still be worth fighting.
Examples would be illegal drugs, child porn & terrorism.
Such wars must be fought to keep the evil impact to a minimum,
even though we recognize that such acts will never be wiped out entirely.

[normiss 801]

Disagree.

Our government allows companies to produce significantly more dangerous drugs to sell for profit than some drugs that have been classified as illegal and dangerous. This is foolish, it is ruining people's lives, costing us billions of needed dollars, and is just plain stupid.

[freethefly 6]

If PharmCo has a patent, it has to be good for the people! GOOOOOOOOOOO PHARMCO!!!!!!!

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[SkyDekker 1,465]

You are comparing recreational use to pharmaceutical use. Not quite an apples to apples comparison.

(and the war on drugs does include the recreational use of pharmaceutical drugs)

[freethefly 6]

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It's possible for a war to be unwinable, and still be worth fighting.
Examples would be illegal drugs, child porn & terrorism.
Such wars must be fought to keep the evil impact to a minimum,
even though we recognize that such acts will never be wiped out entirely.

John. do drugs kill people? (mind you, I do not use any drugs)

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[stayhigh 2]

atleast marijuana is legal in west coast.
www.weedmaps.com

Bernie Sanders for President 2016

[rehmwa 2]

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The sheeple should educate themselves and stop the blind trust in a government.

let's see, the left doesn't trust the government, but wants them to run everything

the right doesn't trust the government and wants it to butt out


I don't see a lot of large groups falling into the whole "sheeple" category. Seems to be a pointless slam without basis.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[freethefly 6]

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The sheeple should educate themselves and stop the blind trust in a government.

let's see, the left doesn't trust the government, but wants them to run everything

the right doesn't trust the government and wants it to butt out


I don't see a lot of large groups falling into the whole "sheeple" category. Seems to be a pointless slam without basis.

I think he is alluding to the people who still believe in the lie about the danger of smoking marijuana. You know, smoke pot and you will go insane. Smoke pot and you will become a heroin addict. Smoke pot and you will become an unproductive dropout.
You know, there are some amazingly ignorant people.

"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young

[tr027 0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjGvSqnaGVk&feature=channel_video_title

"The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957

[JohnRich 4]

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It's possible for a war to be unwinable, and still be worth fighting.
Examples would be illegal drugs, child porn & terrorism.
Such wars must be fought to keep the evil impact to a minimum,
even though we recognize that such acts will never be wiped out entirely.

John. do drugs kill people? (mind you, I do not use any drugs)

They don't have to kill you to have a bad impact on individuals and society.
Child porn doesn't kill either, but it's still wrong.
Rapists often don't kill, but we should fight to stop them.

On the other hand, skydiving does kill people. Is that reason to ban it?

And let's just take marijuana out of this equation - I'm for the liberalization of MJ laws.

To expand upon "unwinable" (is that spelled with one "n" or two?): Just because something bad can never be completely eradicated, does not mean the proper solution is to throw up our hands in defeat and do nothing.

[normiss 801]

I get it.
So long as a doctor can prescribe something that kills me or ruins my organs, it's ok.
Making a conscious, educated decision to smoke a doobie that does no harm to myself or anyone around me, is bad.

Makes less than zero sense to me, but I get it.