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Barack Obama Middle East speech: Palestinian state should be based on 1967 borders

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It's hard to debate "facts" with people who think an immortal man in the sky declared a strip of desert should be a concentration camp.



probably should find those people, first.

It's hard debating anything with a person who makes up so much bullshit, so many beating your wife postings.



If you don't believe that, then why do you think Israel has exclusive rights to that land?

I'm not making anything up lol.. I don;t even give a shit which side wins they're both assholes as far as I'm concerned I just tend to root for the underdog.



the Jews are the underdog.

How did you jump from concentration camps to the newer statement? Any English speaker sees those as completely unrelated statements.

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The Jews are clearly not the underdog here... Look up the body counts if you would like the current score. It's quite lopsided actually.

I don't really care which side wins, but I consider the underdog to be the ones who are fighting with rocks thrown out of their concentration camps, while being mowed down with guns.

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I'm pretty sure I never denied that both sides hate each other... but as for the Arabs starting the entire thing....not so much lol

Most Arabic countries have historically been bastions of tolerance with all religions living in harmony for hundreds of years. I'm not sure why you think they "hated" the Jews before they actually went there, seized land, and declared a state for themselves only. That tends to ruffle peoples' feathers lol.

But yes, at this point both sides seem to hate each other and you still haven't really provided a reason why you are choosing a side so I just assumed it must be race.



So tht whole "convert or die" thing that occured all cross the region as Islam spread is just a myth....

Shocking.. just shocking

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The Jews are clearly not the underdog here... Look up the body counts if you would like the current score. It's quite lopsided actually.



Look up the population numbers - it's quite lopsided, alright.

Population of Israel - 7.75M. 5.8M of them are Jewish.

population of nations that have attacked Israel in the past 60 years, or much more recently.

Population of Syria - 21M
Population of Lebanon - 4.2M
Population of Jordan - 6.4M
Population of Egypt - 83M
Population of Iraq - who under Hussein paid off the families of the suicide bombers - 31.5M
Population of Iran - who holds Holocaust denier conferences and is developing the bomb, who funds the 'terrorist' opposition forces near the Israeli border - 72.9M

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I was thinking more about the body count of who has been killed on each side...not who is still alive lol

The ratio of whites to blacks in South Africa did not justify apartheid.

The ratio of whites to blacks in the Southern US did not justify slavery.

The ratio of Jews to Arabs in the Middle East does not justify Israel's treatment of their non-Jewish population.

Sorry, but history will prove this one out whatever opinions we have.

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Population of Israel - 7.75M. 5.8M of them are Jewish.



Does this stat include the West Bank and Gaza Strip? When I say "Israel" I'm referring to the entire territory including the Arab ghettos.

Let's not compare apples & oranges.



it won't change the math any - Israel is surrounded by just under 200M residents in countries with a history of trying to destroy it. That's like a 30:1 ratio. A couple of those nations are OPEC members with significant oil wealth.

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population of the us - 300 million...



How many US troops are stationed in Israel again???



who gave them nuclear weapons...



It's a bit of a stretch to say the US gave it to them. There was never a policy decision to do so. Nuclear material and secrets were stolen, and considerable cooperation took place with France and South Africa.

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On his perceived-as-victorious return from Washington, the Rome of today, Netanyahu was welcomed at the messianic core like an anointed king. Taking their seats with all the proper respect and giving their blessings were the police investigation refuseniks, the anointers - Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, the ethnic cleansing rabbi from Safed, and Rabbi Dov Lior, the senior messianic rabbi, the rabbi of the first Jewish underground, mass murderer Baruch Goldstein's rabbi, the rabbi of the rulings declaring Yitzhak Rabin a "pursuer" and a "betrayer," and the rabbi behind the book of incitement to murder of non-Jews, "Torat Hemlekh."

In turn, Netanyahu addressed his anointers and their followers, declaring them to be his source of strength in his dealings with U.S. President Barack Obama. "You are the elite special ops unit that leads the nation."



http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/false-messiahs-in-israel-s-capital-1.366420
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Population of Israel - 7.75M. 5.8M of them are Jewish.



Does this stat include the West Bank and Gaza Strip? When I say "Israel" I'm referring to the entire territory including the Arab ghettos.

Let's not compare apples & oranges.



it won't change the math any - Israel is surrounded by just under 200M residents in countries with a history of trying to destroy it. That's like a 30:1 ratio. A couple of those nations are OPEC members with significant oil wealth.



Yea I'm pretty afraid the Mexican Army is going to wipe out the US army too. Makes total sense look at all those brown people down there oh shit!

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Population of Israel - 7.75M. 5.8M of them are Jewish.



Does this stat include the West Bank and Gaza Strip? When I say "Israel" I'm referring to the entire territory including the Arab ghettos.

Let's not compare apples & oranges.



it won't change the math any - Israel is surrounded by just under 200M residents in countries with a history of trying to destroy it. That's like a 30:1 ratio. A couple of those nations are OPEC members with significant oil wealth.



Yea I'm pretty afraid the Mexican Army is going to wipe out the US army too. Makes total sense look at all those brown people down there oh shit!



does Mexico have a 30:1 advantage?

Answer: no. It's at 107M, or roughly 35% of the US population. It also doesn't surround us, and we enjoy a pretty damn big buffer zone of desert land for most of the border.

Next time, try harder to come up with an argument. This one sucks.

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no, it's an israeli mob shouting 'slaughter the arabs', 'death to leftists' etc...

you know the usual religious gibberish from believers...



did they launch rockets or send in suicide bombers, or just talk a lot?



they have a modern army and a superpower to back them up...

(...unlike the palestinians)
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no, it's an israeli mob shouting 'slaughter the arabs', 'death to leftists' etc...

you know the usual religious gibberish from believers...



did they launch rockets or send in suicide bombers, or just talk a lot?


they have a modern army and a superpower to back them up...

(...unlike the palestinians)



AWWW those poor Palistinians... no one ever supports them....waaaaaahhhh

The Russians never provided support thru thier lackeys they were selling weapons to for.. what 50 years... and still are selling to a lot of the same people.

The Iranians... yeah.. no support there..


I long for the day when I hear that great big sucking PLOOP sound from you when you realize how badly alternut.org has let you down and the extraction is finally made:ph34r::ph34r::ph34r:

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Quit making excuses for launching rockets, even most Palestinians realize that is wrong, the problem is that they are not the ones in charge.



I just wish those in charge were in as great of a hurry to martyr themselves.. instead of the clueless compliant children they have trained to be shaheeds

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Quit making excuses for launching rockets.



you quit making excuses for killing thousands and thousands in 'air strikes' that are a community punishment by a well armed military...
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Quit making excuses for launching rockets.



you quit making excuses for killing thousands and thousands in 'air strikes' that are a community punishment by a well armed military...



You are not very good with realizing that everytime there is an Israeli attack on your poor hapless peace loving Palistinians...


It is in response to an attack that has been made on their country... on their people and they target the perpetrators... NOT the complicit civilians who are being used as human shields to get maximum casualties so that weak minded fools will bellyache and blither about all those poor innocents. Still waiting for the loud sucking PLOOOOOOP

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