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TK I was not referring to you.



no, I know that, but you did 'generalize' that anger was coming from the atheists and not from the Christians.....I do not see it that way



I was generalizing but I do see the anger. I do get it as I think there has been a lot of hate and horrible acts from those who call themselves Christians..... historically and now. I just cannot see someone who is an atheist talk to me the way some of these posts read. I cannot see anyone talk this way. I know it is the internet so I could be misreading or people have more moxie when talking on the web but I just hate it. If I were to have a discussion with you about all of this face to face I do not think I would ever say some things that were said to you nor do I think you would say them to me. That is all that I am saying.
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I was generalizing but I do see the anger. I do get it as I think there has been a lot of hate and horrible acts from those who call themselves Christians..... historically and now. I just cannot see someone who is an atheist talk to me the way some of these posts read. I cannot see anyone talk this way. I know it is the internet so I could be misreading or people have more moxie when talking on the web but I just hate it. If I were to have a discussion with you about all of this face to face I do not think I would ever say some things that were said to you nor do I think you would say them to me. That is all that I am saying.



That's just the nature of the internet. Nothing to do with the topic, really.
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I have stated that the military is ordered to kill the declared enemy. As a Christian I can do that because the Bible instructs us to follow the law of the government. See Romans in the NT. As a Christian I can also kill someone who threatens the safety of me or my family. That is called survival.

Show me where I have gone on a rant about killing people in the name of God.



you just did.

Does the Bible also instruct you to go out of your way to 'screw' people and businesses behind their back? And you know exactly what I am talking about.

It's OK Ron, I know who you are and what you represent - and you know who I am and what I represent, and I doubt we will ever see eye to eye.

As long as you keep your frickin' religion out of my government, we might actually get along, despite our differences.



I was thinking of someone else when you said RonD. I do not know Ron but I wanted to make it clear that I was confused about who you were speaking about.
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Does the Bible also instruct you to go out of your way to 'screw' people and businesses behind their back? And you know exactly what I am talking about.



As a loyal American who served in the military I am obligated to report what I consider traitorous behavior. Traitorous behavior requires subversive reporting, in order to be effective. What the authority does with the report is not my business.

You received a heads-up which you interpreted as a cover. I interpreted the message as, be careful you are now a blip in the radar.

Who knows which is correct? I don't.
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As a Christian I can do that because the Bible instructs us to follow the law of the government. See Romans in the NT.



So the guards at Dachau were following Christian teachings? The Iraqi soldiers who deployed chemical weapons against Kurdish civilians were following Christian teachings? Iranian soldiers shooting into unarmed crowds of pro-democracy protestors were following christian teachings while the protestors themselves weren't?



Rabbit, that is a ridiculous response.
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As a Christian I can do that because the Bible instructs us to follow the law of the government. See Romans in the NT.



So the guards at Dachau were following Christian teachings? The Iraqi soldiers who deployed chemical weapons against Kurdish civilians were following Christian teachings? Iranian soldiers shooting into unarmed crowds of pro-democracy protestors were following christian teachings while the protestors themselves weren't?



Rabbit, that is a ridiculous response.



Yes, it pointed out the ridiculous absurdity of the Biblical statement to which it was a response.
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As a Christian I can do that because the Bible instructs us to follow the law of the government. See Romans in the NT.





Yes, it pointed out the ridiculous absurdity of the Biblical statement to which it was a response.



Please explain your understanding of the Scriptural directive in Romans.
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I am obligated to report what I consider traitorous behavior.



perhaps you could expand on the 'traitorous behavior'. Behavior and free speech are two different things. If I sent money to the Taliban, that is one thing. Making a sarcastic remark in response to your rhetoric is called free speech and protected under the constitution.

And supporting a man who is innocent until actually CHARGED AND FOUND GUILTY of something is also supported by our Constitution and well within my rights.

Sorry that it pisses you off, but it still makes your actions reprehensible. I spoke. You took action. Bite me.

besides, if you were the true Christian that you claim over and over to be, you would FORGIVE me.

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As a Christian I can do that because the Bible instructs us to follow the law of the government. See Romans in the NT.





Yes, it pointed out the ridiculous absurdity of the Biblical statement to which it was a response.



Please explain your understanding of the Scriptural directive in Romans.



Dude, he just using exactly what you said. To heck with "understanding the scriptual horseshit". You stated you can kill because "the Bible instructs us to follow the law of the government" and his examples were all of people following the orders of their government, hence good christian morales or whatever. So in your face! :p

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besides, if you were the true Christian that you claim over and over to be, you would FORGIVE me.



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" If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained."

I forgive you. Go and sin no more. Someone is watching.
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You're so cute when you think you have a point.



and your point is....?

such intricate detail, how could I ever manage to combat such a foe with such comprehensive arguments...?:S


You thought your little screed deserved a more comprehensive answer? You hold your opinion MUCH too dear, especially when you've been given the information that proves the lie in your rant several times before.
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I forgive you. Go and sin no more. Someone is watching.



I forgive you, but I will never forget. You showed your true colors, and exactly what i would expect from a right-wing Christian zealot, which further bolsters my case that religion should be nowhere near government - ever, not ever, not for any reason - ever.

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You thought your little screed deserved a more comprehensive answer? You hold your opinion MUCH too dear, especially when you've been given the information that proves the lie in your rant several times before.



well given that my point was made with a more comprehensive answer that the tiny snippet that you took out of it, then yes I would expect a more comprehensive answer from someone as talented as you.

but if that is all you got, then I am Ok with that.

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I forgive you. Go and sin no more. Someone is watching.



I forgive you, but I will never forget. You showed your true colors, and exactly what i would expect from a right-wing Christian zealot,....



And, I'm OK with that.
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Lol, nope your wrong again. I have no "pain" toward religion. I simply no longer believe in fairy tales and Bronze age mythology. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Typical Christian thinks there is some deep resentment causing me to lash out against religion blah blah blah. Like I am angry at god or something. God doesnt exist so how can I be angry with him. I am as angry at god as I am angry at Santa Clause, Frosty the Snowman and Leprechans. They all have equal status with god as far as i am concerned. All fictional characters.

It's really just this simple: I DO NOT BELIEVE IN BULLSHIT FAIRY TALES. THE BIBLE IS FICTION.

Why is that so hard for christians to comprehend that someone can truely and simply NOT BELIEVE?

I will never be "one with god" because there is no god to be one with. Get it?



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I was also speaking in the past tense about your religious experiences. You have obviously found peace with that phase of your life.
Since your anger does not lie with God, what is the object of your anger? People who happen to believe in something that you use to believe in.


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As a Christian I can do that because the Bible instructs us to follow the law of the government. See Romans in the NT.



So the guards at Dachau were following Christian teachings? The Iraqi soldiers who deployed chemical weapons against Kurdish civilians were following Christian teachings? Iranian soldiers shooting into unarmed crowds of pro-democracy protestors were following christian teachings while the protestors themselves weren't?



Rabbit, that is a ridiculous response.



Why is that, Mr Hatter?
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You thought your little screed deserved a more comprehensive answer? You hold your opinion MUCH too dear, especially when you've been given the information that proves the lie in your rant several times before.



well given that my point was made with a more comprehensive answer that the tiny snippet that you took out of it,



Must've missed that part - was it BEFORE you whining about a business being screwed over, or after, and how was that in any way connected to the whinging about religion in government other than as a continuation of your hate-on against RonD?

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then yes I would expect a more comprehensive answer from someone as talented as you.



As stated, I've provided the information several times before - your inability to understand or absorb it is not my problem.

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but if that is all you got, then I am Ok with that.



See above. Let us know when you actually make that comprehensive answer you speak of.
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I will never be "one with god" because there is no god to be one with. Get it?



I don't believe in any man made Gods, so yes I agree with you. The Burble (like the Kaboom and all other similar books) are fiction. But as far as saying there is NO God, how are you so certain there isn't one? I don't think we should artificially worship a God in the hopes that we will be given "Life" after our deaths on this planet. But some time ago something was created out of nothing (the Universe's Big Bang) and while humans will never figure out this mystery, for all we know there is a power greater than we can ever understand that is behind this Big Bang. :o


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As a Christian I can do that because the Bible instructs us to follow the law of the government. See Romans in the NT.



Yes, it pointed out the ridiculous absurdity of the Biblical statement to which it was a response.



Please explain your understanding of the Scriptural directive in Romans.



What is yours?

You state that the command to obey the government overrides the command not to kill, and you refuse to state that there are any limits to what actions are justified for a citizen to perform if his government commands it. On the flip-side, you're too cowardly to address the consequences of the directive as you appear to apply it: as in, the bible says it's perfectly ok to commit any atrocities imaginable as long as someone in power told you to.

So go on, what exactly is your understanding of the directive in Romans?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Lol, nope your wrong again. I have no "pain" toward religion. I simply no longer believe in fairy tales and Bronze age mythology. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Typical Christian thinks there is some deep resentment causing me to lash out against religion blah blah blah. Like I am angry at god or something. God doesnt exist so how can I be angry with him. I am as angry at god as I am angry at Santa Clause, Frosty the Snowman and Leprechans. They all have equal status with god as far as i am concerned. All fictional characters.

It's really just this simple: I DO NOT BELIEVE IN BULLSHIT FAIRY TALES. THE BIBLE IS FICTION.

Why is that so hard for christians to comprehend that someone can truely and simply NOT BELIEVE?

I will never be "one with god" because there is no god to be one with. Get it?



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I was also speaking in the past tense about your religious experiences. You have obviously found peace with that phase of your life.
Since your anger does not lie with God, what is the object of your anger? People who happen to believe in something that you use to believe in.


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I have no anger. What is the object of YOUR anger?

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Once again the moderators here have chosen to delete a bunch of perfectly innocent messages. So now it's time for some payback once again. Tsk tsk. It's too bad they continue this program of self-induced punishment. It would be so easy if they just left those innocent messages alone, and public. But, when they fucka wit me, I fucka wit them. So here we go again.

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Once again the moderators here have chosen to delete a bunch of perfectly innocent messages. So now it's time for some payback once again. Tsk tsk. It's too bad they continue this program of self-induced punishment. It would be so easy if they just left those innocent messages alone, and public. But, when they fucka wit me, I fucka wit them. So here we go again.


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