Skyrad 0 #1 May 25, 2011 Ok so the POTUS is visiting the UK at the moment, he described the relationship between the US and the UK as 'the essential relationship' Maggie Thatcher and Ronald Regan described it as the 'special relationship' but what do you as an American think about the UK and the US and the relationship? Personally I don't think that there is a 'special or essential relationship' and doubt that there ever has been. I think that to the the US we're a bit of a has been power and at times a pain in the bum who have a over inflated opinion of ourselves and I'm pretty sure that the current POTUS would rather be friends with the French than us. Also joking stereotypes of bad food and bad teeth aside how do you Americans view Brits in general? Be honest.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 May 25, 2011 "What does America think about the UK?" Other than a few cultural elements (Beatles, Monty Python, Harry Potter, Top Gear) I pretty much don't think about the UK at all on a daily basis. That's not good or bad; it's indifferent.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 May 25, 2011 Like we care what they thinkOne has-been power and one soon-to-be-has-been power. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #4 May 25, 2011 LOL When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 466 #5 May 25, 2011 You can't ask a question like that on a skydiving forum, where people like Andy Copland fly the flag for the UKI find the following funny about many Americans that I work with over here. 1) High level of interest in the Royals 2) How many trace their lineage, back to specific towns or counties in the UK. 3) When they ask if you know "Jack from London"? As a broad generalisation though, most Americans seem to "like" the Brits, and among the redneck tribes the UK appears to be one of the only other countries that is accepted as being "free world". Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #6 May 25, 2011 Quote"What does America think about the UK?" Other than a few cultural elements (Beatles, Monty Python, Harry Potter, Top Gear) I pretty much don't think about the UK at all on a daily basis. That's not good or bad; it's indifferent. Exactly. The world doesn't revolve around the union jack anymore, and the UK is not nearly as important as the OP thinks it is. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #7 May 25, 2011 All of your actors are incredibly hideous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 May 25, 2011 QuoteQuote"What does America think about the UK?" Other than a few cultural elements (Beatles, Monty Python, Harry Potter, Top Gear) I pretty much don't think about the UK at all on a daily basis. That's not good or bad; it's indifferent. Exactly. The world doesn't revolve around the union jack Stars and bars anymore, and the UK US of A is not nearly as important as the OP anyone thinks it is. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #9 May 25, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote"What does America think about the UK?" Other than a few cultural elements (Beatles, Monty Python, Harry Potter, Top Gear) I pretty much don't think about the UK at all on a daily basis. That's not good or bad; it's indifferent. Exactly. The world doesn't revolve around the union jack Stars and bars anymore, and the UK US of A is not nearly as important as the OP anyone thinks it is. Uh ...the "Stars and Bars" was the flag of the CS of A. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #10 May 25, 2011 bars/stripes... who cares? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #11 May 25, 2011 Quote Quote "What does America think about the UK?" Other than a few cultural elements (Beatles, Monty Python, Harry Potter, Top Gear) I pretty much don't think about the UK at all on a daily basis. That's not good or bad; it's indifferent. Exactly. The world doesn't revolve around the union jack anymore, and the UK is not nearly as important as the OP thinks it is. I didn't express an opinion on the importance or otherwise of the UK, I gave an opinion on how I view the relationship between two countries. But good to know that there is a mind reader in the house .When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #12 May 25, 2011 Quote Also joking stereotypes of bad food and bad teeth aside how do you Americans view Brits in general? Be honest. those are jokes? Let's see... you don't have the right to defend yourself in your own homes from an attacker. The pro-gun crowd used to joke about "knife crime" and "knife confiscation" as something that followed disarming of the people, but then it happened in the UK (well, at least the articles about knife crime started popping up). I see Brits as a society that is further down the road than we are. I'm hoping we can look at how things have gone over there and avoid the British mistakes that led to the bad things, and mimic the decisions that led to the good things.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #13 May 25, 2011 I think that it's a pretty good example of how environment changes what you think is right. After all, there is a common language (well, sort of), and many common cultural elements and history. But the people in the two countries are different, and full of people who can't see how one can deal with what's in the other country. Maybe over time people are adaptable, but in the short run they sure like to bitch a lot And I trace no ancestry to Britain. Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #14 May 25, 2011 After visiting last year I kept thinking "what a great country this was once upon a time." Sadly, I see the U.S. in the same decline, for the same reasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #15 May 25, 2011 Quote Quote Also joking stereotypes of bad food and bad teeth aside how do you Americans view Brits in general? Be honest. you don't have the right to defend yourself in your own homes from an attacker. Ugh, this again. Yes, we do. Moreover, there's no duty to retreat as some American States require - a lethal pre-emptive strike against an unarmed intruder can be perfectly legal here. But let's not let the thread go off track. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #16 May 25, 2011 QuoteAfter visiting last year I kept thinking "what a great country this was once upon a time." Sadly, I see the U.S. in the same decline, for the same reasons. Interesting, what was it that made you think that it was no longer a great country?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wsd 0 #17 May 25, 2011 I think you gave me a pass on this one Jamile... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #18 May 25, 2011 Quote Ok so the POTUS is visiting the UK at the moment, he described the relationship between the US and the UK as 'the essential relationship' Maggie Thatcher and Ronald Regan described it as the 'special relationship' but what do you as an American think about the UK and the US and the relationship? Personally I don't think that there is a 'special or essential relationship' and doubt that there ever has been. I think that to the the US we're a bit of a has been power and at times a pain in the bum who have a over inflated opinion of ourselves and I'm pretty sure that the current POTUS would rather be friends with the French than us. Also joking stereotypes of bad food and bad teeth aside how do you Americans view Brits in general? Be honest. Who? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #19 May 25, 2011 Sorry, couldnt help myself I view the Brits as much the same as I do our own Good, hard working people who try to make a living in the political and economic climate they function under. Of course threads about the politics vs the people would be much different IMO. Just as it would be in the case of the US. My brother lived over there for about 7 years. He liked it but he missed many of the foods we have over here"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #20 May 25, 2011 I don't think about the "UK" at all. On a personal level, though, I've met a ton of Brits and they don't stand out much vs people from the US or elsewhere. In short - I like most of them, most seem to be caring and want good things for their kids, and are nice to people that are nice to them. "People" are people. "Countries" are another thing. In the end, people are what matter, the rest is inconsequential. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #21 May 25, 2011 Quote Also joking stereotypes of bad food and bad teeth aside how do you Americans view Brits in general? Be honest. I think the royals are silly and I think the wigs in your courts are silly and your laws regarding firearms are absurd. Other than that I think you guys rock BTW, thats not to say that there isnt plenty of silliness right here in the States. I could make a very long list.__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #22 May 25, 2011 Quote Ugh, this again. Yes, we do. Moreover, there's no duty to retreat as some American States require - a lethal pre-emptive strike against an unarmed intruder can be perfectly legal here. Sure, as long as you are using a Cricket bat or another item far less certain to save your butt from an attacker __ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #23 May 25, 2011 Quote Quote Ugh, this again. Yes, we do. Moreover, there's no duty to retreat as some American States require - a lethal pre-emptive strike against an unarmed intruder can be perfectly legal here. Sure, as long as you are using a Cricket bat or another item far less certain to save your butt from an attacker lots more homicides in the usa than in the uk so obviously your gun laws don't work... (i agree with you about the royals and wigs)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #24 May 25, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Ugh, this again. Yes, we do. Moreover, there's no duty to retreat as some American States require - a lethal pre-emptive strike against an unarmed intruder can be perfectly legal here. Sure, as long as you are using a Cricket bat or another item far less certain to save your butt from an attacker lots more homicides in the usa than in the uk so obviously your gun laws don't work... (i agree with you about the royals and wigs) Kev, we *know* that logic and critical thought aren't your strong suits, you don't need to prove it every time you make a post.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #25 May 25, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Ugh, this again. Yes, we do. Moreover, there's no duty to retreat as some American States require - a lethal pre-emptive strike against an unarmed intruder can be perfectly legal here. Sure, as long as you are using a Cricket bat or another item far less certain to save your butt from an attacker lots more homicides in the usa than in the uk so obviously your gun laws don't work... (i agree with you about the royals and wigs) Kev, we *know* that logic and critical thought aren't your strong suits, you don't need to prove it every time you make a post. out trolling eh?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
