billvon 3,008 #26 June 14, 2011 >Where is it BAD to make a million/yr? In the US in 1945. Tax rate over $200K was 94%. Which means that a guy who made $100K today would be better off, dollar-wise, than someone who made a million a year back then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #27 June 14, 2011 >If you make more than a million a year, it will all get taxed out of you . . . ?? Where do you live? Here in the US the highest tax bracket is 35%. That means you keep $650,000 of that money. And that's without fancy lawyers. Add the fancy lawyers, and the actual tax rate for people making over a million a year is 22%. That's less than a "little person" who makes $35,000 a year! Pretty good deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #28 June 14, 2011 I agree and there's no arguing that. So you inflected that the US is a good place to be if you're income is 1mill/yr. I'm asking where it's bad to make 1mill/yr, or the US equivalent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #29 June 14, 2011 Quote Democrats use filibusters as much as Republicans. Like I wrote, do some research on filibustering. If you think that this is true, you would be 100% wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #30 June 14, 2011 QuoteQuoteAlso currently working great for people who make over a million a year. Uh yea. It's a million bucks a year dude. Where is it BAD to make a million/yr? The only bad thing about it is the way the folks who do make $1M+ per yr whine so much about paying their taxes.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #31 June 14, 2011 >I'm asking where it's bad to make 1mill/yr, or the US equivalent. Well, it's never bad to make money. There are some places where it's worse than making $500,000, though. (For example, if you made $500K in Andorra you'd end up with more money than if you made $1 million in Denmark.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #32 June 14, 2011 QuoteQuote Democrats use filibusters as much as Republicans. Like I wrote, do some research on filibustering. If you think that this is true, you would be 100% wrong. In the past 20 years the GOP has filibustered at a rate, on average, 42% more than the Democrats.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #33 June 14, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote Democrats use filibusters as much as Republicans. Like I wrote, do some research on filibustering. If you think that this is true, you would be 100% wrong. In the past 20 years the GOP has filibustered at a rate, on average, 42% more than the Democrats. You both realize that the presence of a cloture vote does not necessarily mean that a filibuster occurred, yes?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #34 June 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Democrats use filibusters as much as Republicans. Like I wrote, do some research on filibustering. If you think that this is true, you would be 100% wrong. In the past 20 years the GOP has filibustered at a rate, on average, 42% more than the Democrats. You both realize that the presence of a cloture vote does not necessarily mean that a filibuster occurred, yes? So what is your figure, then?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #35 June 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Democrats use filibusters as much as Republicans. Like I wrote, do some research on filibustering. If you think that this is true, you would be 100% wrong. In the past 20 years the GOP has filibustered at a rate, on average, 42% more than the Democrats. You both realize that the presence of a cloture vote does not necessarily mean that a filibuster occurred, yes? So what is your figure, then? Don't have one, sorry.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #36 June 15, 2011 Quote(For example, if you made $500K in Andorra you'd end up with more money than if you made $1 million in Denmark.) Those horrible Andorrans - you just know they hate minorities and old people. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #37 June 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Democrats use filibusters as much as Republicans. Like I wrote, do some research on filibustering. If you think that this is true, you would be 100% wrong. In the past 20 years the GOP has filibustered at a rate, on average, 42% more than the Democrats. You both realize that the presence of a cloture vote does not necessarily mean that a filibuster occurred, yes? So what is your figure, then? Don't have one, sorry. In other words, you can't defend your opinion, or dispute the facts. You can't admit that the Republicans are totally in the wrong on this matter, so out comes the RWC talking points, repeated like a good RWC parrot. When does respect for the Constitution and the rule of law come into play, if an RWC? Never, unless it is in favor of the talking points. Moral and ethical hypocrisy is part and parcel of what the RWCs have descended to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #38 June 15, 2011 QuoteIn other words, you can't defend your opinion, or dispute the facts. Neither can you. QuoteYou can't admit that the Republicans are totally in the wrong on this matter, so out comes the RWC talking points, repeated like a good RWC parrot. You talking about ANYONE parroting talking points is fucking hilarious. From Senate.gov (those RWC parrots): "Senate leadership has increasingly made use of cloture as a normal tool for managing the flow of business on the floor, even at times when no evident filibuster has yet occurred. These considerations imply that the presence or absence of cloture attempts cannot be taken as a reliable guide to the presence or absence of filibusters." Maybe you should have done some of that research you keep speaking of before running your yap. QuoteWhen does respect for the Constitution and the rule of law come into play, if an RWC? Never, unless it is in favor of the talking points. Moral and ethical hypocrisy is part and parcel of what the RWCs have descended to. Sure thing, skippy - because it was REALLY Boehner that said we have to pass the healthcare bill before we can see what's in it, right?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #39 June 15, 2011 >Those horrible Andorrans - you just know they hate minorities and old people. And the Federation, I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #40 June 16, 2011 QuoteQuoteIn other words, you can't defend your opinion, or dispute the facts. Neither can you. QuoteYou can't admit that the Republicans are totally in the wrong on this matter, so out comes the RWC talking points, repeated like a good RWC parrot. You talking about ANYONE parroting talking points is fucking hilarious. From Senate.gov (those RWC parrots): "Senate leadership has increasingly made use of cloture as a normal tool for managing the flow of business on the floor, even at times when no evident filibuster has yet occurred. These considerations imply that the presence or absence of cloture attempts cannot be taken as a reliable guide to the presence or absence of filibusters." Maybe you should have done some of that research you keep speaking of before running your yap. QuoteWhen does respect for the Constitution and the rule of law come into play, if an RWC? Never, unless it is in favor of the talking points. Moral and ethical hypocrisy is part and parcel of what the RWCs have descended to. Sure thing, skippy - because it was REALLY Boehner that said we have to pass the healthcare bill before we can see what's in it, right? In other words, you can't come up with FACTS that support your opinion. That means you resort to the usual RWC bullshit of deflect, lie, and change the subject to confuse like minded nitwits. You can't tell the difference between a cloture vote and a filibuster, so you sling a load of bullshit. NICE... Rescumlicans can't read and understand complex bills in a timely manner, and that is the Democrat's fault? In what reality does anyone actually fall for that crap? Right Wing La-La land, apparently. If the folks you assholes elect refuse to do their jobs, DON"T VOTE FOR THEM. Why won't RWC's man up and take actual responsibility for their actions? Because in Right Wing La-La land, there is no such thing as the truth. Only opinion and bluster, with a healthy measure of willful blindness thrown in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,030 #41 June 16, 2011 Quote>If you make more than a million a year, it will all get taxed out of you . . . ?? Where do you live? Here in the US the highest tax bracket is 35%. That means you keep $650,000 of that money. And that's without fancy lawyers. Add the fancy lawyers, and the actual tax rate for people making over a million a year is 22%. That's less than a "little person" who makes $35,000 a year! Pretty good deal. Well, the 35% is the marginal rate, so you'd actually keep more than $650k even without the fancy lawyers and deductions (more like $667k). I paid more than 22% overall last year, maybe I need a fancy lawyer.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #42 June 16, 2011 QuoteBecause in Left Wing La-La land, there is no such thing as the truth. Only opinion and bluster, with a healthy measure of willful blindness thrown in. Fixed that for ya. Chime back in when you've got something that refutes the Senate report, m'kay?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #43 June 16, 2011 it's easy to say as factual now that the GOP is much more willing to use the fillibuster. They effectively did it for the first 2 years of Clinton's time, and they've been at it since they became the minority party again in 2007. But nothing stopped the Bush agenda after 9/11. This can be viewed as a weakness by the Democrats. Traditionally, the party is not nearly as cohesive as the GOP, representing too many different viewpoints. But getting back to the claim that Democrats do it as much as Republicans - it's bad to make statements so easily disproved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #44 June 16, 2011 QuoteIn other words, you can't come up with FACTS that support your opinion. That means you resort to the usual RWC bullshit of deflect, lie, and change the subject to confuse like minded nitwits. You can't tell the difference between a cloture vote and a filibuster, so you sling a load of bullshit. NICE... Rescumlicans can't read and understand complex bills in a timely manner, and that is the Democrat's fault? In what reality does anyone actually fall for that crap? Right Wing La-La land, apparently. If the folks you assholes elect refuse to do their jobs, DON"T VOTE FOR THEM. Why won't RWC's man up and take actual responsibility for their actions? Because in Right Wing La-La land, there is no such thing as the truth. Only opinion and bluster, with a healthy measure of willful blindness thrown in. What have you decided to use "Rescumlicans" instead of your usual "rePUBICTARD" reference? And more importantly you have decided to post under a different account instead of posting under the usual account you use? The same words, the same grammar, the same rhetoric and the same hate is consistent between accounts. I will now send myself to the DIZZY.COM penalty box for this attack, but you are not fooling anyone. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #45 June 16, 2011 Quoteit's easy to say as factual now that the GOP is much more willing to use the fillibuster. They effectively did it for the first 2 years of Clinton's time, and they've been at it since they became the minority party again in 2007. There are records of actual filibusters, or just pundits claiming that filibusters happened? QuoteBut nothing stopped the Bush agenda after 9/11. Disagree - I recall the filibuster of the Patriot Act and blocking of recess and judicial appointments, just off the top of my head. QuoteBut getting back to the claim that Democrats do it as much as Republicans - it's bad to make statements so easily disproved. You could as easily claim that Dems used cloture to stifle debate on legislature - the record of cloture votes could be interpreted by partisans in either direction. NB: To stave off the inevitable claim, I am *not* saying that Dems have used cloture in that manner.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #46 June 16, 2011 Oh Oh... someone had a bit tooo much BC Bud . Me thinks someone partied a tad too much after the Canucks lost last night.... the hallucinations are running fast and furious out of his fingers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #47 June 16, 2011 Quote There are records of actual filibusters, or just pundits claiming that filibusters happened? you alive during the times, right? Pretty easy observations. Quote NB: To stave off the inevitable claim, I am *not* saying that Dems have used cloture in that manner. then what the fuck are you saying? Don't pull a Kallend on us. Make a real claim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #48 June 16, 2011 QuoteQuote There are records of actual filibusters, or just pundits claiming that filibusters happened? you alive during the times, right? Pretty easy observations. Pundit claims it is, then. QuoteQuote NB: To stave off the inevitable claim, I am *not* saying that Dems have used cloture in that manner. then what the fuck are you saying? Don't pull a Kallend on us. Make a real claim. Kallend and others are exactly why I made the disclaimer. The point is that there is a hard record of cloture votes - if there is a matching hard record of filibusters, I'm unaware of it.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
