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QuoteYou know...back when I was in the Army and before I learned much self control and patience, we would take guys like I suspect you are and beat their prissy little asses. You're obviously a coward because you hide behind your computer screen and hurl personal insults knowing there can be no real consequence.
Relax Jaybird! Go get a drink of water. Relax!
I met Winsor once . It was at a USPA BOD meeting.
He wasn't "prissy" and he stood up infront of an openly hostile group of group members at the group members committie meeting and logically and eloquently explained to the committee how they were stealing from the rank and file(i'm paraphrasing.)
The man is no coward as far as I could see. Certainly he wasn't hiding.
Any way relax JBird!
I'm pretty certain that is what God wants us to do.
Relax!!!!!
LOL!
TT
winsor 236
QuoteQuoteHow about good ol' Leviticus 20-13, straight out of the christian bible.(one of the versions, anyway...the King James one.)
In all fairness, the statement was about The New Testament. Some Christians believe the laws in the Old Testament were voided by the New Testament. Which is weird when you consider how vocal some get about the 10 (or is it 15) Commandments, but in any case, most Christians do feel it's ok to cook up BBQ pork ribs on a Sunday.
There are 613 Mitzvot.
Dumbing it down for pagans resulted in the Top Ten, but there is no such distinction in Torah.
RonD1120 62
QuoteSome Christians believe the laws in the Old Testament were voided by the New Testament.
FYI, the correct terminology is, the OT Law was fulfilled in Christ Jesus.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
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In all fairness, the statement was about The New Testament. Some Christians believe the laws in the Old Testament were voided by the New Testament. Which is weird when you consider how vocal some get about the 10 (or is it 15) Commandments, but in any case, most Christians do feel it's ok to cook up BBQ pork ribs on a Sunday.
Or a Bacon Cheeseburger, I love a bacon cheeseburger and sometimes I even eat it on a bagel!
"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"
SkyDekker 1,465
QuoteThere are 613 Mitzvot.
Only in the Land of Israel.
quade 4
QuoteQuoteThere are 613 Mitzvot.
Only in the Land of Israel.
That's an unorthodox statement.
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winsor 236
QuoteQuoteThere are 613 Mitzvot.
Only in the Land of Israel.
Children of Israel recognize 613 (it's a family thing - you wouldn't understand).
Every Torah lists them, wherever it may be.
Even the Roman writings include them.
SkyDekker 1,465
QuoteChildren of Israel recognize 613 (it's a family thing - you wouldn't understand).
At least the 10 rules can be followed anywhere.
26 Mitzvos apply only in the land of Israel.
And ever since those Romans destroyed the temple, you know the one that replaced the first one, many of the Mitzvos cannot be observed.
I know every Torah lists them, but the majority of them cannot be observed.
Your air of superiority is misplaced in this matter.
billvon 2,991
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>Your air of superiority is misplaced in this matter.
winsor 236
QuoteQuoteChildren of Israel recognize 613 (it's a family thing - you wouldn't understand).
At least the 10 rules can be followed anywhere.
26 Mitzvos apply only in the land of Israel.
And ever since those Romans destroyed the temple, you know the one that replaced the first one, many of the Mitzvos cannot be observed.
I know every Torah lists them, but the majority of them cannot be observed.
Your air of superiority is misplaced in this matter.
Whether they can be observed or not has nothing to do with the point.
There is no distinction made in Torah regarding "observability."
Mitzvot are quantifiable. There are 613.
Your air of inferiority is justified.
SkyDekker 1,465
QuoteThere are 613 Mitzvot.
Dumbing it down for pagans resulted in the Top Ten, but there is no such distinction in Torah.
That is your quote, implying that the 10 commandmends are a dumbed down version of 613 jewish rules.
On one side we have 10 rules, 9 of which are pretty decent "rules" to live by, most would consider them pretty common courtesy. One of them is a belief statement.
On the other side we have 613 rules, of which the far majority cannot possibly be observed.
I am surprised that somebody who will tell anybody and everybody how good his logical reasoning skills are, would pick the latter as the smartest set of rules.
No Ron, You are sadly mistaken and have exposed your lack of Understanding.
Jesus did sin and it was His sin which led to His arrest and public humiliation, the Cruci-Fiction.
Do you remember a passage where he raised the whip against the "Banksters"? / The money changers in the Temple?
By his own words that should never have happened!
"Turn the other cheek"
" Love thy neighbor as yourself"
But he was whipping the money changers in the Temple!!!!
Jesus was Human. He erred as Humans do.
He was also God as are all Humans.
Nothing so special about that guy really.
His teaching is that we all have the same potential as He. We need only to look inside ourselves.
Complete the course before you instruct others.
Understanding and Enlightenment will come to you,
it is inevitable
TT
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