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QuoteQuotePharoah exiles them from Eygypt but not without a "parting gift" later named Issac.
They return to Canaan where Sarah delivers child.
Abraham instinctively knows this ain't his kid (hell he knew the Pharoah was bangin' his wife)
what?
Are you just making stuff up again Jim...or Dan, whatever your name is?
It was at least 14+ years after they left Egypt before Sarah gave birth to Isaac...
That must've been some super powerful pharoah sperm to hang around in their all them years.
Or short years. (Biblical years) (real years)
or for the alternately programmed:
(Biblical years) != (real years)
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jaybird18c 24
QuoteAlright, rather than imply that I'm lazy or stupid for not having the same understanding of the text as you, why don't you enlighten me to the real meaning of Matthew 7: 7-10.
While it is disturbing to see the plight of starving children in Africa or anywhere else for that matter, the context of your selected scripture is not addressing that. It is interesting that you left off verse 11, however, as that presupposes the doctrine of human depravity. It makes a comparison between God’s provision and the ability of even wicked men to provide for their own. It was explanation in terms they could understand.
Quote"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man is there among you who, when his son asks for a loaf, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, he will not give him a snake, will he? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him!"
Matthew 7:7-11
Quote7:7-11 (Luke 11:9-13). Earlier in this sermon Jesus had given the disciples a model prayer (Matt. 6:9-13). Now He assured them that God welcomes prayer, and urged them to come to Him continuously and persistently. This is emphasized by the present tenses in the verbs: “keep on asking”; “keep on seeking”; “keep on knocking” (7:7). Why? Because your Father in heaven (v. 11) delights in giving good gifts (cf. James 1:17) to those who persist in prayer. (Luke substitutes “the Holy Spirit” for “good gifts,” Luke 11:13.) No decent father would give his son . . . a stone instead of a round loaf of bread (which looked like a stone), or a snake instead of a similar-appearing fish. If an earthly father, with his sinful (evil) nature, delights to do right materially for his children, it makes sense that the righteous, heavenly Father will much more reward His children spiritually for their persistence.
The Bible Knowledge Commentary
QuoteDo you not think many of those African children were believers? Do you suppose they were not praying for food, or not to be harmed? How does that reconcile with the text.
I think most of Africa is Muslim. However, many there are in fact professing Christians. But being Christian does not mean there will be no suffering. The promise of God is not that we will not suffer for His name, just the opposite. We live in a fallen world where there is suffering everywhere\. The promise of God is that those, who are His, are forgiven and will spend eternity with Him. In the meantime, Matthew 5:43-45 states that we should love and extend grace to our enemies. It explains that even God does this in that, during this lifetime, He allows good and bad to fall upon believers and unbelievers alike.
Quote”You have heard that it was said, YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.”
Matthew 5:43-45
“One” of the reasons God allows or even causes this is to bring unbelievers to faith and repentance. God is described as longsuffering/patient. He demonstrated his love for us in that “while we were yet sinning”, He died for us. Instead of extending immediate justice (which was demonstrated many times in the OT), He is now extending mercy. You graciously have time…but don’t abuse it. The wheat/tares, sheep/goats, etc are allowed to live together now but they will be sorted out on the Day of Judgment. You don’t know when your day will come.
Coreece 190
We don't even have to talk numbers to understand that Isaac was not the pharoah's son...Anyone with common sense and a reading comprhension level above the third grade can see that...it's quite clear.
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...
jaybird18c 24
QuoteDo you love every child as much?
Yes
QuoteDo you love Muslim children as much as your own?
If my child grew up to be Muslim, it would trouble me greatly but yes.
If you’re referring to another child other than my own, I would have to honestly respond with no.
QuoteIf a Muslim child was to take the life of your own child would you still love that Muslim child?
Again, I would have to say no.
QuoteBecause that is what Jesus taught us we need to do.
"Love your neighbor as yourself" , He said.
He did say that but I do not believe I could live up to that standard with regard to my own children. But, then again, that’s not the purpose of the Law. I fully admit that I cannot meet that standard or the one before it (Love God perfectly; which sum up the 10 Commandments). Therefore, I need God’s grace. The purpose of the Law is to point us to Christ. We try and keep it (speaking of the Moral Law, that is; the ceremonial law was fulfilled in Christ and the civil law mentioned in the OT pertained to the Nation of Israel only) not “in order to be saved” but “because we have been saved.” That does not mean that we can keep the law perfectly. That is impossible for anyone.
QuoteBut you are a part of a military machine which has slaughtered at least tens of thousands of innocents , possibly hundreds of thousands? A machine that tortures innocents? Torture? Torture, Jaybird..? As a Christian you can be a supporting part of this?
Justification for submitting to governmental authority and even war is explained in scripture. Aside from that, however, I’d like to get to the more important point. Where is this “innocent” person that you’re referring to? And how do you define “innocent?” By who’s standard? I certainly don’t fall into that category. Do you?
jaybird18c 24
Should a Christian go to war?
by Matt Slick
This question has caused a lot of division in the body of Christ. Should a Christian go to war where he might kill other people when the Bible says to "turn the other cheek" (Luke 6:28)? Is it right to do war against others or does the Bible forbid it?
War is a state of declared, open, and armed conflict between two or more nations. It is sometimes undertaken in self-defense such as when the U.S. entered WWII as a result of Japan attacking Pearl Harbor. Other times, however, nations unjustly go to war to take spoils from other countries. Murder, on the other hand, is an unlawful taking of life and is always wrong. When nations go to war, it is declared lawful by the countries going to war -- sometimes for moral reasons and other times for immoral reasons. Therefore, and immoral war could be considered a form of murder where a moral war could be in self defense. But not all war is wrong.
It is difficult to determine when war would be a righteous endeavor given that leaders of nations are not Christian and could easily have ungodly reasons for going to war. Nevertheless, war is an unfortunate reality in this world and it causes great destruction, misery, and loss of life. It should be avoided if possible and undertaken only as a last resort.
The Bible teaches that we have the right to self defense, Exodus 22:2: "If the thief is caught while breaking in, and is struck so that he dies, there will be no blood guiltiness on his account." The Bible also tells us to protect the innocent, Deut. 19:10, "So innocent blood will not be shed in the midst of your land which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance, and blood guiltiness be on you." Also, see "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin," (Deut. 24:16). If we were to apply these principles to war, I would conclude that war is justifiable when it is in self defense and/or when it is to protect the innocent. Therefore, a Christian could rightfully engage in war given those conditions.
More on war
We can see that war is not a sin in itself since in the Old Testament God sends people into war:
•"Then the Lord spoke to Moses in the plains of Moab by the Jordan opposite Jericho, saying, 51 "Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, "When you cross over the Jordan into the land of Canaan, 52 then you shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their figured stones, and destroy all their molten images and demolish all their high places; 53 and you shall take possession of the land and live in it, for I have given the land to you to possess it," (Num. 33:50-53).
In fact, God uses war as a means of disciplining nations.
• "I sent a plague among you after the manner of Egypt; I slew your young men by the sword along with your captured horses, And I made the stench of your camp rise up in your nostrils; Yet you have not returned to Me, declares the Lord," (Amos 4:10).
Also, the Lord is called a warrior.
• "The Lord is a warrior; The Lord is His name. 4"Pharaoh's chariots and his army He has cast into the sea; And the choicest of his officers are drowned in the Red Sea," (Exodus 15:3-4).
From this we can easily conclude that going to war is not a sin. That is, if it complies with the biblical instructions of self-defense and protection of the innocent.
Furthermore, Christians are instructed to be in subjection to the governing authorities whose establishment is from God. This establishment has the right to declare war and to punish its citizenry, even by capital punishment.
•"Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; 4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil," (Rom. 13:1-4).
•"Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, 14 or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right," (1 Peter 2:13).
Finally, notice that some soldiers approached John the Baptist and inquired about repentance. John did not tell them to stop being soldiers, but to do their jobs properly, honestly.
•"And some soldiers were questioning him, saying, "And what about us, what shall we do?" And he said to them, "Do not take money from anyone by force, or accuse anyone falsely, and be content with your wages," (Luke 3:14).
From all of this, we can see that going to war is not wrong it itself and that a Christian can go to war under the right circumstances.
by Matt Slick
This question has caused a lot of division in the body of Christ. Should a Christian go to war where he might kill other people when the Bible says to "turn the other cheek" (Luke 6:28)? Is it right to do war against others or does the Bible forbid it?
War is a state of declared, open, and armed conflict between two or more nations. It is sometimes undertaken in self-defense such as when the U.S. entered WWII as a result of Japan attacking Pearl Harbor. Other times, however, nations unjustly go to war to take spoils from other countries. Murder, on the other hand, is an unlawful taking of life and is always wrong. When nations go to war, it is declared lawful by the countries going to war -- sometimes for moral reasons and other times for immoral reasons. Therefore, and immoral war could be considered a form of murder where a moral war could be in self defense. But not all war is wrong.
It is difficult to determine when war would be a righteous endeavor given that leaders of nations are not Christian and could easily have ungodly reasons for going to war. Nevertheless, war is an unfortunate reality in this world and it causes great destruction, misery, and loss of life. It should be avoided if possible and undertaken only as a last resort.
The Bible teaches that we have the right to self defense, Exodus 22:2: "If the thief is caught while breaking in, and is struck so that he dies, there will be no blood guiltiness on his account." The Bible also tells us to protect the innocent, Deut. 19:10, "So innocent blood will not be shed in the midst of your land which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance, and blood guiltiness be on you." Also, see "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin," (Deut. 24:16). If we were to apply these principles to war, I would conclude that war is justifiable when it is in self defense and/or when it is to protect the innocent. Therefore, a Christian could rightfully engage in war given those conditions.
More on war
We can see that war is not a sin in itself since in the Old Testament God sends people into war:
•"Then the Lord spoke to Moses in the plains of Moab by the Jordan opposite Jericho, saying, 51 "Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, "When you cross over the Jordan into the land of Canaan, 52 then you shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their figured stones, and destroy all their molten images and demolish all their high places; 53 and you shall take possession of the land and live in it, for I have given the land to you to possess it," (Num. 33:50-53).
In fact, God uses war as a means of disciplining nations.
• "I sent a plague among you after the manner of Egypt; I slew your young men by the sword along with your captured horses, And I made the stench of your camp rise up in your nostrils; Yet you have not returned to Me, declares the Lord," (Amos 4:10).
Also, the Lord is called a warrior.
• "The Lord is a warrior; The Lord is His name. 4"Pharaoh's chariots and his army He has cast into the sea; And the choicest of his officers are drowned in the Red Sea," (Exodus 15:3-4).
From this we can easily conclude that going to war is not a sin. That is, if it complies with the biblical instructions of self-defense and protection of the innocent.
Furthermore, Christians are instructed to be in subjection to the governing authorities whose establishment is from God. This establishment has the right to declare war and to punish its citizenry, even by capital punishment.
•"Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; 4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil," (Rom. 13:1-4).
•"Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, 14 or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right," (1 Peter 2:13).
Finally, notice that some soldiers approached John the Baptist and inquired about repentance. John did not tell them to stop being soldiers, but to do their jobs properly, honestly.
•"And some soldiers were questioning him, saying, "And what about us, what shall we do?" And he said to them, "Do not take money from anyone by force, or accuse anyone falsely, and be content with your wages," (Luke 3:14).
From all of this, we can see that going to war is not wrong it itself and that a Christian can go to war under the right circumstances.
kallend 2,027
QuoteWe don't even have to talk numbers to understand that Isaac was not the pharoah's son...Anyone with common sense and a reading comprhension level above the third grade can see that...it's quite clear.
That excludes fundamentalist Christians, then. Why do you hate them so much?
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
jaybird18c 24
QuoteQuoteWe don't even have to talk numbers to understand that Isaac was not the pharoah's son...Anyone with common sense and a reading comprhension level above the third grade can see that...it's quite clear.
That excludes fundamentalist Christians, then. Why do you hate them so much?
That was helpful input Kallend. Thank you.
jaybird18c 24
QuoteSince none of us lived 2000 years ago, we will never know the context of the bible. If Christians were fighting with each other over interpretation before, during, and after the bible was written, How could we even pretend to claim we know the true message today.
By that logic, you couldn't know the context of anything written before the oldest living person today. Are you serious?
QuoteThat's not even adding in the complication that Every early manuscript, of every Gospel we have, is a copy of a copy of a copy. The early manuscripts were changed by so many people, for so many reasons, we have absolute proof of that.
Firstly, the fact that there are so many copies (and I mean a lot; vastly more than any other ancient work) adds greatly to the accuracy and reliability. Secondly, your allegation that the manuscripts were changed a lot and with impure motive is unfounded.
QuoteThe New Testament is constantly under attack and its reliability and accuracy are often contested by critics. But, if the critics want to disregard the New Testament, then they must also disregard other ancient writings by Plato, Aristotle, and Homer. This is because the New Testament documents are better-preserved and more numerous than any other ancient writings. Because they are so numerous, they can be cross checked for accuracy... and they are very consistent.
There are presently 5,686 Greek manuscripts in existence today for the New Testament.1 If we were to compare the number of New Testament manuscripts to other ancient writings, we find that the New Testament manuscripts far outweigh the others in quantity.
Manuscript evidence for superior New Testament reliability
Added:
QuoteThe original writings of the Bible have been lost. But before they were lost, they were copied. These copies were incredibly accurate, very meticulous, and very precise. The people who copied them were extremely dedicated to God and their copying tasks. They took great care when copying the original manuscripts. This copying method is so exact, and so precise, that the New Testament alone is considered to be 99.5% textually pure. This means that of the 6000 Greek copies (the New Testament was written in Greek), and the additional 21,000 copies in other languages, there is only one half of 1% variation. Of this very slight number, the great majority of the variants are easily corrected by comparing them to other copies that don't have the "typos" or by simply reading the context. You should know that copying mistakes occur in such ways as word repetition, spelling, or a single word omission due to the copyist missing something when moving his eyes from one line to another. The variants are very minor. Nothing affects doctrinal truth and the words and deeds of Christ are superbly reliably transmitted to us.
Is the Bible reliable?
winsor 236
QuoteQuoteQuoteWe don't even have to talk numbers to understand that Isaac was not the pharoah's son...Anyone with common sense and a reading comprhension level above the third grade can see that...it's quite clear.
That excludes fundamentalist Christians, then. Why do you hate them so much?
That was helpful input Kallend. Thank you.
Aye, and he is spot on as usual.
jaybird18c 24
QuoteAye, and he is spot on as usual.
Bzzzzz.... Bzzzzz..... Bzzzz.... SWAT!!
QuoteQuoteAlright, rather than imply that I'm lazy or stupid for not having the same understanding of the text as you, why don't you enlighten me to the real meaning of Matthew 7: 7-10.
While it is disturbing to see the plight of starving children in Africa or anywhere else for that matter, the context of your selected scripture is not addressing that. It is interesting that you left off verse 11, however, as that presupposes the doctrine of human depravity. It makes a comparison between God’s provision and the ability of even wicked men to provide for their own. It was explanation in terms they could understand.Quote"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man is there among you who, when his son asks for a loaf, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, he will not give him a snake, will he? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him!"
Matthew 7:7-11Quote7:7-11 (Luke 11:9-13). Earlier in this sermon Jesus had given the disciples a model prayer (Matt. 6:9-13). Now He assured them that God welcomes prayer, and urged them to come to Him continuously and persistently. This is emphasized by the present tenses in the verbs: “keep on asking”; “keep on seeking”; “keep on knocking” (7:7). Why? Because your Father in heaven (v. 11) delights in giving good gifts (cf. James 1:17) to those who persist in prayer. (Luke substitutes “the Holy Spirit” for “good gifts,” Luke 11:13.) No decent father would give his son . . . a stone instead of a round loaf of bread (which looked like a stone), or a snake instead of a similar-appearing fish. If an earthly father, with his sinful (evil) nature, delights to do right materially for his children, it makes sense that the righteous, heavenly Father will much more reward His children spiritually for their persistence.
The Bible Knowledge CommentaryQuoteDo you not think many of those African children were believers? Do you suppose they were not praying for food, or not to be harmed? How does that reconcile with the text.
I think most of Africa is Muslim. However, many there are in fact professing Christians. But being Christian does not mean there will be no suffering. The promise of God is not that we will not suffer for His name, just the opposite. We live in a fallen world where there is suffering everywhere\. The promise of God is that those, who are His, are forgiven and will spend eternity with Him. In the meantime, Matthew 5:43-45 states that we should love and extend grace to our enemies. It explains that even God does this in that, during this lifetime, He allows good and bad to fall upon believers and unbelievers alike.Quote”You have heard that it was said, YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.”
Matthew 5:43-45
“One” of the reasons God allows or even causes this is to bring unbelievers to faith and repentance. God is described as longsuffering/patient. He demonstrated his love for us in that “while we were yet sinning”, He died for us. Instead of extending immediate justice (which was demonstrated many times in the OT), He is now extending mercy. You graciously have time…but don’t abuse it. The wheat/tares, sheep/goats, etc are allowed to live together now but they will be sorted out on the Day of Judgment. You don’t know when your day will come.
1st of all, thank you for taking the time to respond to my query. Here is a quick guide to the saturation of Christianity in Africa. While you will find most of northern Africa primarily Muslim (read 10/40 window) you will find an overwhelming amount of Christian believers to the south.
I do understand the message of man's depravity in verse 11. In a nutshell, it says God will take better care of you than you will of each other, because man is evil, and still cares for his own. I get that. What I don't get, is that FOOD is a basic provision. CLEAN WATER is a basic provision. If a starving African christian child is praying with all his heart for FOOD, and he then starves to death, how is that God's provision being better than man's?
What you say is reflective of your knowledge...HOW ya say it is reflective of your experience. Airtwardo
Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama
Someone's going to be spanked! Hopefully, it will be me. Skymama
winsor 236
QuoteQuoteAye, and he is spot on as usual.
Bzzzzz.... Bzzzzz..... Bzzzz.... SWAT!!
Yup, just what may be expected of someone without "common sense and a reading comprhension level above the third grade."
Battles of wits with the unarmed are about as gratifying as boxing matches with first graders. However, I assume you are actually very, very bright, and are pretending to be otherwise just to be difficult.
Good show!
jclalor 12
If there were so few problems with textual variations and changes made by scribes, why would the writer of Revelation say this: Rev 22:19
"Or I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book".
Funny, how just a few years after the death of Jesus, it appears changing the text was already an issue, not to mention that it is widely accepted that some of Paul's letters are not genuine,
"Or I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book".
Funny, how just a few years after the death of Jesus, it appears changing the text was already an issue, not to mention that it is widely accepted that some of Paul's letters are not genuine,
kallend 2,027
QuoteQuoteQuoteWe don't even have to talk numbers to understand that Isaac was not the pharoah's son...Anyone with common sense and a reading comprhension level above the third grade can see that...it's quite clear.
That excludes fundamentalist Christians, then. Why do you hate them so much?
That was helpful input Kallend. Thank you.
At least it got a response, which is more than can be said for prayer.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
***It was at least 14+ years after they left Egypt before Sarah gave birth to Isaac...
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No ,
Im certain they left to return to Canaan in 1495 BC and Issac was born 1494 BC .
He was the Pharoahs' child and as such passed along his birthrite to the throne to his first son Essau ,who sold it for a bowl of soup to his younger brother ,Jacob.
Essau probably got the better deal as he being the son of the son of a lesser wife probably had a very slim chance of ever inheriting the throne.
1454 BC.- Jacob travels to Eygypt to study and is initiated into the White lodge as were his mother and Abram(Abraham/Ibram). He takes on the name "Israel" to honor his symbolic rebirth as a new man.
He comes to know the Eygptians and the Royal Family of which he is a lesser member.
He is the grandson of Pharoah Tuthimosis II but the Great Royal Wife is not his mother.
*** Therefore, and immoral war could be considered a form of murder
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So, Jay , do you consider the war in Afgahnistan to be a "moral war"?
Wait.., I can't even post this with a straight face!
A "Moral " war? WTF?
Man can make all kinds of excuses for himself to justify ignoring the teachings of the Master, Jesus the Christ.
He can twist things around to soothe his mind about his violations of the Laws of Moses,IE "Thou Shalt Not Kill".
Surely man can fool himself whenever he wants , however, the man who attempts to fool himself is the surest fool.
"Thou Shall Not Kill"
" Love your Neighbor as yourself".
jaybird18c 24
Was that a question? 
***Was that a question?
No Jay.
That is a statement.
Coreece 190
QuoteQuoteIt was at least 14+ years after they left Egypt before Sarah gave birth to Isaac...
No ,
Im certain they left to return to Canaan in 1495 BC and Issac was born 1494 BC .
Sarah was infertile even after leaving Egypt which is why Abraham eventual knocked-up Hagar who gave birth to Ishmael. It wasn't untill after Ishmael was born that Sarah conceived Isaac...
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...
***Sarah was infertile even after leaving Egypt
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She wasn't "infertile" in the medical sense of the word.
She wouldn't let Abraham fuck her as he, her husband, had whored her out to the Pharoah.
She was a bit bitter about that.
You can thank Ezra for your confusion as to the chronological order of these matters.
Oh.., one more thing.., really.., do you believe she was "infertile " and then many years later became fertile?
Sorry I asked. I forgot.., you believe a lot of things with low probability.
Coreece 190
Address the issue please.
It wasn't untill after Ishmael was born that Sarah conceived Isaac...
Not nearly as improbable of your Akashic map charted magical mysery tour time travels that grant you self proclaimed Omniscience...you may wanna get that flux capitor checked out.
Jim, do you still believe you are God?
It wasn't untill after Ishmael was born that Sarah conceived Isaac...
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I forgot.., you believe a lot of things with low probability.
Not nearly as improbable of your Akashic map charted magical mysery tour time travels that grant you self proclaimed Omniscience...you may wanna get that flux capitor checked out.
Jim, do you still believe you are God?
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...
what?
Are you just making stuff up again Jim...or Dan, whatever your name is?
It was at least 14+ years after they left Egypt before Sarah gave birth to Isaac...
That must've been some super powerful pharoah sperm to hang around in their all them years.
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