mnealtx 0 #226 August 16, 2011 QuoteQuoteYou are right , I guess we can look to the UK as an example of what not to do. One in ten people in the UK do not work and are supported by the rest. The people who rioted there showed no respect for anything. so much for socialism... You really need to look up your statistics before you fabricate and post them. Here, I did it for you: The July 2011 unemployment rate in the UK is 7.7%. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/unemployment-rate The July 2011 unemployment rate in the United States is 9.1%, down from 9.2% the previous month. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate You were saying? There is a difference between unemployed and not working - our UK posters have mentioned people living on the dole their entire lives. QuoteYou seem to bark out "socialism!!" a lot, much the way the dog barks at the mailman. Slogans and sound bytes are a weak substitute for cogent argument. Is that why you play the race card so often?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #227 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote so, what "limited freedom of speech" does exist there in germany exactly!? maybe i'm asking the wrong guy, since every FUCK-NUGGET seems to have a say in the states.. can't be a racist, like a nazi skinhead or a Holocaust denier. Many argue this isn't a loss, but I prefer a less ambiguous freedom of speech. on religion (from Wiki "Scientology in Germany") "Scientologists in Germany face specific political and economic restrictions. They are barred from membership in major political parties and employers use so-called "sect filters" to expose a job applicant's association with the organization. German federal and state interior ministers started a process aimed at banning Scientology in late 2007, but abandoned the initiative a year later, finding insufficient legal grounds. Despite this, polls suggest that most Germans favour banning Scientology altogether." It may be a wacko cult, but as an atheist I'm highly suspicious when the majority declares a minority religion as a cult, or worse, discriminates against those associated with it. All sounds highly positive to me.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #228 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote What is most striking to me about the London riots is people have no way to defend their property or livelihoods. The cops are just taking pictures... Incredible. _________________________________ You are right , I guess we can look to the UK as an example of what not to do. One in ten people in the UK do not work and are supported by the rest. The people who rioted there showed no respect for anything. so much for socialism... A) This isn't a socialist country and we have a Conservative/Lib Government. B) Just what percentage of people in the USA actually pay tax on their income?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #229 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote What is most striking to me about the London riots is people have no way to defend their property or livelihoods. The cops are just taking pictures... Incredible. _________________________________ You are right , I guess we can look to the UK as an example of what not to do. One in ten people in the UK do not work and are supported by the rest. The people who rioted there showed no respect for anything. so much for socialism... A) This isn't a socialist country and we have a Conservative/Lib Government. B) Just what percentage of people in the USA actually pay tax on their income? the people do, the CORPORATIONS do not.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #230 August 16, 2011 Quote B) Just what percentage of people in the USA actually pay tax on their income? Roughly 50%. Quote the people do, the CORPORATIONS do not.. No, the corps do as well...they just pass the cost on to the customers.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #231 August 16, 2011 WTF got into everyone here tonight? I just came in from a nice evening out and everyone is tearing everyones else's hair out. Naughty boys and girls! Naughty!!!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #232 August 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote B) Just what percentage of people in the USA actually pay tax on their income? Roughly 50%. Does that make the USA a Socialist state? Of course not, even though 50% of the people are carried by the rest (makes us 1:10 Brits look positively capitalist)When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #233 August 16, 2011 QuoteNever in all my posts I said I hate the US, its folks, the posters here Do you remember saying this? "Super Power No. 1 (HaHa...) : You're a bunch of blind wimps." - christelsabine, June 30, 2011 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #234 August 17, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote B) Just what percentage of people in the USA actually pay tax on their income? Roughly 50%. Does that make the USA a Socialist state? Of course not, even though 50% of the people are carried by the rest (makes us 1:10 Brits look positively capitalist) Roughly 50% have no tax liability - they still have to settle at the end of the year. I'm given to understand that the dole payments over there are tax-exempt - is that correct?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #235 August 17, 2011 QuoteDoes that make the USA a Socialist state? Well, our pledge of allegiance is a socialist pledge written by a socialist to reflect socialism. So, whenever on recites the pledge, they are vowing allegiance to socialism, whether they realize it or not."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #236 August 17, 2011 Quote Quote Never in all my posts I said I hate the US, its folks, the posters here Do you remember saying this? "Super Power No. 1 (HaHa...) : You're a bunch of blind wimps." - christelsabine, June 30, 2011 Man from Texas, there's a huge difference between irony/sarcasm and hate.Perhaps, it needs some brain training to understand. Feel free to scan my posts as long as you like .... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #237 August 17, 2011 Quote I'm given to understand that the dole payments over there are tax-exempt - is that correct? I believe so but don't honestly know.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #238 August 17, 2011 QuotePerhaps, it needs some brain training to understand. Have you quit beating your spouse? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #239 August 17, 2011 QuoteHave you quit beating your spouse? When she finally got me my beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #240 August 17, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou are right , I guess we can look to the UK as an example of what not to do. One in ten people in the UK do not work and are supported by the rest. The people who rioted there showed no respect for anything. so much for socialism... You really need to look up your statistics before you fabricate and post them. Here, I did it for you: The July 2011 unemployment rate in the UK is 7.7%. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/unemployment-rate The July 2011 unemployment rate in the United States is 9.1%, down from 9.2% the previous month. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate You were saying? There is a difference between unemployed and not working - our UK posters have mentioned people living on the dole their entire lives. Our US posters have frequently mentioned people living on welfare all their lives.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #241 August 17, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYou are right , I guess we can look to the UK as an example of what not to do. One in ten people in the UK do not work and are supported by the rest. The people who rioted there showed no respect for anything. so much for socialism... You really need to look up your statistics before you fabricate and post them. Here, I did it for you: The July 2011 unemployment rate in the UK is 7.7%. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/unemployment-rate The July 2011 unemployment rate in the United States is 9.1%, down from 9.2% the previous month. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate You were saying? There is a difference between unemployed and not working - our UK posters have mentioned people living on the dole their entire lives. Our US posters have frequently mentioned people living on welfare all their lives. And they're not counted on the unemployment rolls unless they're actively looking for work, as several news articles on the unemployment rate point out about people 'dropping off the unemployment rolls'.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #242 August 17, 2011 QuoteQuotePerhaps, it needs some brain training to understand. Have you quit beating your spouse? You seem to have a fascination with the wife beating gambit lately. It would have greater impact if it didn't seem like it was the only arrow you had left in the quiver.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #243 August 17, 2011 QuoteYou seem to have a fascination with the wife beating gambit lately. It would have greater impact if it didn't seem like it was the only arrow you had left in the quiver. Responding with insults seems to be the only arrow many of my detractors seem to have in their quivers, so I'm responding in-kind. Logic doesn't work. Pleading for civility doesn't work. Ignoring them doesn't work. So maybe a taste of their own medicine will make it sink in. Nah, probably not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #244 August 17, 2011 QuoteAnd they're not counted on the unemployment rolls unless they're actively looking for work, as several news articles on the unemployment rate point out about people 'dropping off the unemployment rolls'. How do they come up with those numbers? Do they scan Unemployment office records? Tally job applications across the country? I dunno...just asking.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #245 August 17, 2011 Quote So maybe a taste of their own medicine will make it sink in. Nah, probably not. Nah...definitely not.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #246 August 17, 2011 QuoteQuoteAnd they're not counted on the unemployment rolls unless they're actively looking for work, as several news articles on the unemployment rate point out about people 'dropping off the unemployment rolls'. How do they come up with those numbers? Do they scan Unemployment office records? Tally job applications across the country? I dunno...just asking. I'm not sure how BLS comes up with the numbers.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #247 August 17, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnd they're not counted on the unemployment rolls unless they're actively looking for work, as several news articles on the unemployment rate point out about people 'dropping off the unemployment rolls'. How do they come up with those numbers? Do they scan Unemployment office records? Tally job applications across the country? I dunno...just asking. I'm not sure how BLS comes up with the numbers. Here ya go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #248 August 17, 2011 QuoteQuoteI'm not sure how BLS comes up with the numbers. Here ya go! Thanks, Andy.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #249 August 17, 2011 Quote Quote And they're not counted on the unemployment rolls unless they're actively looking for work, as several news articles on the unemployment rate point out about people 'dropping off the unemployment rolls'. How do they come up with those numbers? Do they scan Unemployment office records? Tally job applications across the country? I dunno...just asking. unlike as in 3rd world countries, our administration seems to, miraculously, work! but hey, maybe they're just NOT ignorant!“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #250 August 17, 2011 Quote Quote Perhaps, it needs some brain training to understand. Have you quit beating your spouse? Let me reply to you a bit later; at first, I'll have to contact Billvon ..... ya know, from professional to professional We Germans have a solid reputation for beeing ponderous and humorless - that requires thorough background check. BTW: You do not come across explicitly relaxed, JR. Something wrong? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites