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Your Republican pals at work.



Nice spin attempt - gotta love the lame attempt to tie it to Cheny, too.

Unfortunately for your argument, it's legal - just like the Indian tribes in the other thread.




It's legal? just like all the people receiving welfare, food stamps, and unemployment. Funny how the Right calls all of these people greedy and lazy, yet when corporations do it, it's legal.



If it were a US company, I would agree - unfortunately for your little diatribe, it's not.
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Of course they are relevant. Absurd to claim that they are not.



They're only relevant to your lame distraction attempt.

The income brackets for a particular year are being compared to all returns for a particular year, so no bogus 'demographic changes' are needed.

The percentage of income tax collected from a particular bracket is being compared to the total income tax collected for a particular year, so no bogus 'inflation changes' are needed.



You have told us previously that you know nothing about statistics, and yet you are determined to prove it to us. It's OK, we believe you know nothing about statistics.
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Of course they are relevant. Absurd to claim that they are not.



They're only relevant to your lame distraction attempt.

The income brackets for a particular year are being compared to all returns for a particular year, so no bogus 'demographic changes' are needed.

The percentage of income tax collected from a particular bracket is being compared to the total income tax collected for a particular year, so no bogus 'inflation changes' are needed.



You have told us previously that you know nothing about statistics, and yet you are determined to prove it to us. It's OK, we believe you know nothing about statistics.



That's immaterial to the discussion at hand, as well. Must suck that your argument can't stand on it's own so you have to attack the poster instead.
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Your Republican pals at work.



Nice spin attempt - gotta love the lame attempt to tie it to Cheny, too.

Unfortunately for your argument, it's legal - just like the Indian tribes in the other thread.



It's legal? just like all the people receiving welfare, food stamps, and unemployment. Funny how the Right calls all of these people greedy and lazy, yet when corporations do it, it's legal.

If it were a US company, I would agree - unfortunately for your little diatribe, it's not.

How can you defend that which is nothing more than a file on a computer in the Cayman Islands and used to evade taxes?:S
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When you're out of the blue and into the black."
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Your Republican pals at work.



Nice spin attempt - gotta love the lame attempt to tie it to Cheny, too.

Unfortunately for your argument, it's legal - just like the Indian tribes in the other thread.



It's legal? just like all the people receiving welfare, food stamps, and unemployment. Funny how the Right calls all of these people greedy and lazy, yet when corporations do it, it's legal.


If it were a US company, I would agree - unfortunately for your little diatribe, it's not.

How can you defend that which is nothing more than a file on a computer in the Cayman Islands and used to evade taxes?:S

Pointing out that the argument is based on an entirely false premise is 'defending'?

The law is what it is - if you don't like it, lobby to change it. I'll be interested to see what your argument will be when China starts taxing US companies.
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Of course they are relevant. Absurd to claim that they are not.



They're only relevant to your lame distraction attempt.

The income brackets for a particular year are being compared to all returns for a particular year, so no bogus 'demographic changes' are needed.

The percentage of income tax collected from a particular bracket is being compared to the total income tax collected for a particular year, so no bogus 'inflation changes' are needed.



You have told us previously that you know nothing about statistics, and yet you are determined to prove it to us. It's OK, we believe you know nothing about statistics.



That's immaterial to the discussion at hand, as well. Must suck that your argument can't stand on it's own so you have to attack the poster instead.






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I can always count on you to prove the point, Jeannie.




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And you prove it again.
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I can always count on you to prove the point, Jeannie.




Oh WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

You need cheese................................. desperately:ph34r::ph34r:


And you prove it again.



Awww tough titty.... perhaps if more people actually did something about where they are stuck at.... but that would require massive plopping sounds all across the Red States as millions of craniums were extracted from rectums.

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I can always count on you to prove the point, Jeannie.




Oh WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

You need cheese................................. desperately:ph34r::ph34r:


And you prove it again.



Awww tough titty.... perhaps if more people actually did something about where they are stuck at.... but that would require massive plopping sounds all across the Red States as millions of craniums were extracted from rectums.


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Pointing out that the argument is based on an entirely false premise is 'defending'?



False premise? These so called "companies" are nothing more than a name. If they are not illegal, they should be. Even though Ingersoll-Rand didn't operate under a shell, they were still able to avoid paying taxes to the U.S. by claiming that Bermuda was their headquarters. They had no office in Bermuda, only an address. In 2002 they avoided $60M in taxes, they were able to get more than $300M in subsidies and loans from the Export-Import Bank. They have continued ti exploit America since. Currently, Ingersoll-Rand is "headquartered" in Ireland.
It is pathetic, the number of companies that call themselves an American company. They are not. They enjoy the protection that America affords them, as long as someone else pays for it. They flat-out refuse to fund this country. Americans, they are not.

http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf/2009/06/ingersollrand_replaces_bermuda.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=oWMZh1nqt3sC&pg=PA15870&lpg=PA15870&dq=how+ingersoll+rand+avoids+paying+U.S.+taxes&source=bl&ots=rzI9yk-9XZ&sig=90THZmS7yXHPj2mts1t6xh6YRJw&hl=en&ei=m0VUTpGuK6izsAKA4NXFBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

From the link:
"Or let's examine corporate expatriate Ingersoll-Rand, formerly of New Jersey, and now also in Bermuda. Ingersoll-Rand earned as much last year in U.S. defense and homeland security federal contracts as it avoids in U.S. taxes annually merely by renting a mailbox in Bermuda and calling it ‘home.' If Ingersoll-Rand paid its U.S. tax bill, Congress could easily afford to fund the Cyberspace Warning Intelligence Network, estimated to cost $30 million, or it could also buy 400,000 gas masks for American citizens." http://guerillastickers.com/corporate_welfare.htm

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The law is what it is - if you don't like it, lobby to change it. I'll be interested to see what your argument will be when China starts taxing US companies.



I send letters on a number of issues, that concern me, to my representatives. I have a whole list.

As for China taxing so called U.S. companies? They should. They should, also hold them responsible for everything from healthcare to environmental issues. They should hold them responsible for everything and anything that they would be held to here in the U.S.. They should be held accountable for the exploitation of people in sweatshops throughout China. If you are about to balk, just Google "sweatshops in China'.
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They should be held accountable for the exploitation of people in sweatshops throughout China.



In case you hadn't noticed, we were discussing the US taxing a company based outside the US. The equivalent would be China taxing, oh, IBM or some other US based company.
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Dick Cheney is such a great American! What a patriot.



Yup, that's about all you've got left in regards to any argument.



Coming from the King of the Eloquent Prose, that is funny. Considering that the extent of much of your replies consist of nothing more than condescending rhetoric.
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A wise and frugal Government, which shall retrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned.
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Dick Cheney is such a great American! What a patriot.



Yup, that's about all you've got left in regards to any argument.



Coming from the King of the Eloquent Prose, that is funny. Considering that the extent of much of your replies consist of nothing more than condescending rhetoric.



Make a response that deserves more than sarcasm, then. Answering the posts as they're written rather than changing the scenario to support your answer (as you admitted in the union thread) would be a start.
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A wise and frugal Government, which shall retrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned.
Thomas Jefferson



Coool design a fucking time machine and go live in 1803 America. You should be very very happy... fuck.. you can even have slaves.

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Dick Cheney is such a great American! What a patriot.



Yup, that's about all you've got left in regards to any argument.



Coming from the King of the Eloquent Prose, that is funny. Considering that the extent of much of your replies consist of nothing more than condescending rhetoric.



Make a response that deserves more than sarcasm, then. Answering the posts as they're written rather than changing the scenario to support your answer (as you admitted in the union thread) would be a start.



Impossible to answer that which only leads to fallacy. The hypothetical question could only be answered two ways. Both conclusions led to firing employees. Either way I answered would had led to that. I don't believe that he intended the fallacy. I have explained my answer. The person who asked it did not reply, either positive nor negative. I can only conclude that he accepted my answer. Whether you accept it or not means nothing.
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When you're out of the blue and into the black."
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Impossible to answer that which only leads to fallacy.



Yes, we're all aware that any situation in which the union doesn't save the day is a fallacy to you.



Again, The King of the Eloquent Prose hits back with another pop fly condescending rhetorical reply. His swing is weak. The crowd is not impressed. It's another out for the King's team.

My original reply was to only only hire what was needed. That is a very common practice in siding. Most large siding contractors use subcontractors to carry out the work they bid on. You know that when the job is completed, your back on the bricks, until the next one. I stand by my answer. Your opinion of my answer is meaningless.
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Impossible to answer that which only leads to fallacy.



Yes, we're all aware that any situation in which the union doesn't save the day is a fallacy to you.



Again, The King of the Eloquent Prose Changing the Scenario hits back with another pop fly condescending rhetorical reply. His swing is weak. The crowd is not impressed. It's another out for the King's team.



Fixed that for you.

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My original reply was to only only hire what was needed. That is a very common practice in siding.



Immaterial. The question didn't ask who you'd hire, it stated that you have 2 existing crews.
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Impossible to answer that which only leads to fallacy.



Yes, we're all aware that any situation in which the union doesn't save the day is a fallacy to you.



Again, The King of the Eloquent Prose hits back with another pop fly condescending rhetorical reply. His swing is weak. The crowd is not impressed. It's another out for the King's team.



Mike, I repaired your error.
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My original reply was to only only hire what was needed. That is a very common practice in siding.



Immaterial. The question didn't ask who you'd hire, it stated that you have 2 existing crews.



And I answered accordingly, concerning two crews.
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