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OK, before you all light up the flamethrowers I'm not wearing a foil hat here but can anyone explain this video clip? The BBC reporting WTC 7 collapse allegedly 20 mins before it went down. Is that really WTC 7 in the background? (I don't know) If so isn't that a little strange?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tGOt9f3gKk&feature=fvst

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Time delayed by any chance? It interesting that ten years on no one can really be bothered with the whole 9/11 incident. Sure people remember those who were murdered, and that is as it should be. But the hysteria has gone and that is good. I wonder what if anything will happen this year after UBL's killing.
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True ... the 11/9 incident is shrouded in so much [mis]information, opinion and conjecture that it's difficult for anyone to get a clear and concise picture..

People (yes even on here) speak with so much conviction and yet know so very little as fact.

It's a time of great sadness for the people involved (both directly and indirectly) and has had wide ranging impact all around the world.

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True ... the 11/9 incident is shrouded in so much [mis]information, opinion and conjecture that it's difficult for anyone to get a clear and concise picture..

People (yes even on here) speak with so much conviction and yet know so very little as fact.

*** With no real investigation and an armload of secrecy surrounding the evidence it should be no suprise that there is a buttload of speculation .

Why has the government failed to properly investigate ?
Why do they refuse to release the evidence?

Could it be that they know what that evidence would reveal?

I say sunlight is the best disinfectant.

9-11 still stinks to high heaven .

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True ... the 11/9 incident is shrouded in so much [mis]information, opinion and conjecture that it's difficult for anyone to get a clear and concise picture..

People (yes even on here) speak with so much conviction and yet know so very little as fact.

*** With no real investigation and an armload of secrecy surrounding the evidence it should be no suprise that there is a buttload of speculation .

Why has the government failed to properly investigate ?
Why do they refuse to release the evidence?

Could it be that they know what that evidence would reveal?

I say sunlight is the best disinfectant.

9-11 still stinks to high heaven .



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Why do they refuse to release the evidence?



There is no evidence, they sold the steel to India and China.
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Point #1 - You have to remember the total chaos of that day. The amount of speculation. half truths and absolute bullshit that was put out makes this completely understandable.

Point#2 - WTC 7 was horribly damaged by the collapse of towers 1 & 2. Add to that the fire from the backup generator fuel (something like 30,000 gal) and the emergency managment predicted the collapse well before it happened. They pulled out all the firefighters (and lost none in the collapse) which then fueled all the speculation and conspiracy theories about it being blown up on purpose (the infamous "pulled the building" comment).

Perhaps the BBC was informed that WTC 7 was going to collapse, and the "going to" part go lost somewhere between the reporter on scene and the anchor on TV.

In the clip, WTC 7 seems to be still standing (I don't know for sure that the one pointed out is actually WTC 7) and the on scene reporter is talking about buildings that have collapsed. It's hard to tell if she thinks WTC 7 is down or if she missed the anchor's "Salomon Brothers Building" comment or what.

Again, remember the chaos of the day and how many people had to comment on stuff that they knew nothing about. Anyone having experience in crisis managment will know what I mean.

Or put on your tinfoil hat and assume that everyone knows everything about everything, and that people with the intelligence and skill to plan this and execute it made really simple and stupid errors and told the news that the buildings were down before they had a chance to demolish them.
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remember the chaos of the day and how many people had to comment on stuff that they knew nothing about.



Aint that the truth, and has continued to be ever since. 'Experts' who know feck all expounding 'fact' that they just made up.
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remember the chaos of the day and how many people had to comment on stuff that they knew nothing about.



Aint that the truth, and has continued to be ever since. 'Experts' who know feck all expounding 'fact' that they just made up.



Right.

And then you repeat that "fact" enough times that the tin-foil-hatters believe it (added on to their desire to in the first place) and...

Voila. Instant conspiracy.
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Why do they refuse to release the evidence?



There is no evidence, they sold the steel to India and China.



But the videos confiscated from the businesses around the Pentagon could show an airliner .

The FAA air traffic controller tapes may also contain some evidence .

The black box data from all 4 planes may contain evidence .

The circumstantial evidence is also to be considered.

Who told Rudolph Guiliani in the Command Center that the towers were about to collapse ?
Why didn't he relay that info to the fire fighters in the towers?

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I think that there are people from the BBC who may have answers. I think that in the chaos of the day, when the call was made to pull assets out of the buildoing due to imminent collapse it could have been interpreted as collapse.

Still, the physics themselves for how the buildings collapsed is rather simple.

"The windows barely showed fire!"
Yeah, but what was going on inside. My charcoal grill barley shows fire when it's good and ready.

"The building wasn't hit by any plane."
Yep. But it was hit by a building thaty was on fire."

"The sprinklers should have put that fire out."
Yep. If there waa a supply of water. It is pretty well understood that the water supply was compromised.

"But no skyscraper had ever been brought down by fire."
Indeed. Except the two that went down earlier in the day.


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The FDNY had complained to America's Mayor for years that their radios were substandard. They always had a difficult time using them on high rise calls. The FDNY ordered evacuation of all companies from the towers. Some heard, others didn't.
Chief Ray Downey was killed that day. He had pleaded with Guliani not to put the command center next to the towers. The entire days incident command system had to be run out of the back of a Chevy Suburban. He asked Guliani over and over for better radios. When the bombing in '92 happened, they couldn't talk to each other by radio. He knew the terrorists wanted the towers down. Ray was on the national anti terror comittee and spoke often of protecting the towers.
Building 7 collapsed on it's own accord.

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***And then you repeat that "fact" enough times that the tin-foil-hatters believe it (added on to their desire to in the first place) and...

Voila. Instant conspiracy.


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Agreed and then the "tin-foil-hatters " believe that it is an AlQueida attack and we have the moral authority to invade a sovereign Iraq . The big lie has been told enough to make the populace believe that there is some "Terr"threat against the USA!.

Thing is ten years later anyone can see there never was a foreign "Terr threat" against the USA.

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***"The windows barely showed fire!"
Yeah, but what was going on inside. My charcoal grill barley shows fire when it's good and ready.

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Listen Lawrocket, charcoal lighter fuel is not that much different in composition than Jet A.

Have those thin guage pieces of chromed steel on your grill been very much compromised after hours and hours of use?

Have you had even one steak freefall into the ashes?

But you believe that the charcoal lighter fluid was hot enough to weaken large steel members within an hour?

LOL!

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***"The windows barely showed fire!"
Yeah, but what was going on inside. My charcoal grill barley shows fire when it's good and ready.

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Listen Lawrocket, charcoal lighter fuel is not that much different in composition than Jet A.

Have those thin guage pieces of chromed steel on your grill been very much compromised after hours and hours of use?

Have you had even one steak freefall into the ashes?

But you believe that the charcoal lighter fluid was hot enough to weaken large steel members within an hour?

LOL!



If you're using lighter fluid for 'hours and hours' in your grill, remind me to pass on any bbq invitations.
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The five crayons were meant to scare You!



No...when something bad happens, people feel they have to do something, anything no matter how stupid or innefective it is...

At the end of the day, all the politicians get to say "At least we didn't just sit here and do nothing..."

...and everyone gets to go to sleep at night.
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

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Have those thin guage pieces of chromed steel on your grill been very much compromised after hours and hours of use?

Have you had even one steak freefall into the ashes?

But you believe that the charcoal lighter fluid was hot enough to weaken large steel members within an hour?

LOL!



If you're using lighter fluid for 'hours and hours' in your grill, remind me to pass on any bbq invitations.



LOL!
But if you wanted to melt steel?
Could I be your Pal?

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What ID did you go by here before July 4 of this year?



I don't know or why that is important to you.

But maybe you know !

If you do know why are you asking the question?



Actually you just answered my question

Thanks
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What ID did you go by here before July 4 of this year?



I don't know or why that is important to you.

But maybe you know !

If you do know why are you asking the question?



***Actually you just answered my question

Thanks

Really?
So for my info and the rest of the group why don't you reveal to us all by what ID did I go by before July 4 of this year?

Obviously it is important information considering your laborious investigation .
Please share!

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So for my info and the rest of the group why don't you reveal to us all by what ID did I go by before July 4 of this year?



How about you just reveal all of your sock puppets so we can just stop playing this game?
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

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