billvon 3,008 #26 September 13, 2011 >What are these goals ? Per their website: "to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #27 September 13, 2011 Quote>What are these goals ? Per their website: "to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets." Got a link for this website? Also, would you be against any of these goals?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #28 September 13, 2011 Quote Quote >What are these goals ? Per their website: "to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets." Got a link for this website? Also, would you be against any of these goals? Are you actually asking Billvon if he's a Tea Party Advocate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #29 September 13, 2011 Quote Quote Quote >What are these goals ? Per their website: "to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets." Got a link for this website? Also, would you be against any of these goals? Are you actually asking Billvon if he's a Tea Party Advocate? Well, not really I am asking him if he is against any of the goals he posted about"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,028 #30 September 13, 2011 Quote tangent: why do folks keep referring to the tea party as if it were one solid organization with leaders and clear boundaries? I guess the People's Front of Judea, Judean People's Front, the Judean Popular People's Front, the Campaign for a Free Galilee, and the Popular Front of Judea all pre-date you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #31 September 13, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote >What are these goals ? Per their website: "to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets." Got a link for this website? Also, would you be against any of these goals? Are you actually asking Billvon if he's a Tea Party Advocate? Well, not really I am asking him if he is against any of the goals he posted about Sorry, I thought the new standard was that unless you opposed something, you must be for it. My bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #32 September 13, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote >What are these goals ? Per their website: "to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets." Got a link for this website? Also, would you be against any of these goals? Are you actually asking Billvon if he's a Tea Party Advocate? Well, not really I am asking him if he is against any of the goals he posted about Sorry, I thought the new standard was that unless you opposed something, you must be for it. My bad. You know you are messing this up!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #33 September 13, 2011 Quote>Ron Paul makes far too much sense for the GOP to select him. Probably true, which is unfortunate. Understatement of the year, maybe even the decade...I guess we'll find out.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #34 September 13, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote >What are these goals ? Per their website: "to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets." Got a link for this website? Also, would you be against any of these goals? Are you actually asking Billvon if he's a Tea Party Advocate? Well, not really I am asking him if he is against any of the goals he posted about Sorry, I thought the new standard was that unless you opposed something, you must be for it. My bad. You know you are messing this up! Sorry, but I'm pretty sure he knows where you are going with this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #35 September 13, 2011 FWIW....I think Bill is getting tired of being a Mod. If he stoped that job and took his muzzle off he would make Kallend look like a amateur. Although he hasn't snswered I'd bet that in principle he is very much in favor of these goals. Just not in favor of the broad based paint brush goals of the tea party.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #36 September 13, 2011 Query: what would happen if Brian were to hang out with "the dude" Lebowski? (fyi: yes, you're older than dirt but fun nonetheless)witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #37 September 13, 2011 QuoteFWIW....I think Bill is getting tired of being a Mod. If he stoped that job and took his muzzle off he would make Kallend look like a amateur. Although he hasn't snswered I'd bet that in principle he is very much in favor of these goals. Just not in favor of the broad based paint brush goals of the tea party. First they whine about the Tea Party not having a big tent agenda. Now they whine that it's goals are too broad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #38 September 13, 2011 >First they whine about the Tea Party not having a big tent agenda. Who is this "they" that you speak of? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #39 September 13, 2011 Quote>First they whine about the Tea Party not having a big tent agenda. Who is this "they" that you speak of? You and most of the other left-wingers on this site for beginners. Then we can talk about the DNC surrogates like DU, MM, HP etc. All have features articles and posts made by members accusing the Tea Party of being racists white Christians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,028 #40 September 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteFWIW....I think Bill is getting tired of being a Mod. If he stoped that job and took his muzzle off he would make Kallend look like a amateur. Although he hasn't snswered I'd bet that in principle he is very much in favor of these goals. Just not in favor of the broad based paint brush goals of the tea party. First they whine about the Tea Party not having a big tent agenda. Now they whine that it's goals are too broad.Don't know about that. The problem I have with the various Tea Parties is that they seem to appeal mostly to white racist Christian fundies and other morons.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #41 September 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteFWIW....I think Bill is getting tired of being a Mod. If he stoped that job and took his muzzle off he would make Kallend look like a amateur. Although he hasn't snswered I'd bet that in principle he is very much in favor of these goals. Just not in favor of the broad based paint brush goals of the tea party. First they whine about the Tea Party not having a big tent agenda. Now they whine that it's goals are too broad.Don't know about that. The problem I have with the various Tea Parties is that they seem to appeal mostly to white racist Christian fundies and other morons. Thanks for supplying an example of the type of thinking I was referring to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,028 #42 September 13, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote FWIW....I think Bill is getting tired of being a Mod. If he stoped that job and took his muzzle off he would make Kallend look like a amateur. Although he hasn't snswered I'd bet that in principle he is very much in favor of these goals. Just not in favor of the broad based paint brush goals of the tea party. First they whine about the Tea Party not having a big tent agenda. Now they whine that it's goals are too broad. Don't know about that. The problem I have with the various Tea Parties is that they seem to appeal mostly to white racist Christian fundies and other morons. Thanks for supplying an example of the type of thinking I was referring to. You're welcome... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #43 September 13, 2011 QuoteIgnorant fuckwits, the lot of them. Makes holding on to any faith in the public difficult to say the least. Those morons booing Paul are the sort that wants to hear how the infidels attacked us because they hate freedom, baseball, and apple pie. The concept of a complicated and interconnected world is anathema to them. Except those are exactly the people the Republican party has embraced as their base. Joe the Plumber. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #44 September 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteIgnorant fuckwits, the lot of them. Makes holding on to any faith in the public difficult to say the least. Those morons booing Paul are the sort that wants to hear how the infidels attacked us because they hate freedom, baseball, and apple pie. The concept of a complicated and interconnected world is anathema to them. Except those are exactly the people the Republican party has embraced as their base. Joe the Plumber. Thanks for supplying a good example of the type of mentality I was referring to. You obviously understand very little reading the newspapers and internet websites from your bunker up there in Canada. Have you ever actually been to a Tea Party Meeting or do you just "know" from what you read? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #45 September 13, 2011 QuoteIgnorant fuckwits, the lot of them. Makes holding on to any faith in the public difficult to say the least. Those morons booing Paul are the sort that wants to hear how the infidels attacked us because they hate freedom, baseball, and apple pie. The concept of a complicated and interconnected world is anathema to them. tangent: why do folks keep referring to the tea party as if it were one solid organization with leaders and clear boundaries? Follow the Money!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #46 September 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteMr Paul defended his stance, arguing America could save trillions of dollars if the country cut funding from wars. How will the military industrial complex justify itself if Oceania is not at war? By keeping the peace. War is Peace. Just ask the Ministry of Truth. Love fiction. . .it's credibility, its ability to be used for any other theme other than it's original purpose; say for instance unease about Totalitarism. ect. ect. Oh . . . it's DoublePlusGood the same theme with regards to this topic. Ron Paul has absolutely figured out the purposes behind NewSpeak the 43rd Administration used in its ramp up to Iraq. Yes, he has come to a conclusion that is not unique. But his saying that terrorists attacked us due to occupation is the same as saying that spouse abusers hit their wives for being insolent. A wife doesn't stop the beating by correcting her behaviors. . .we don't stop our process because someone who is not acting in part of a country voices an extreme form of grievance. It takes a certain type of personality to come to terrorism, regardless of culture. These people were not defending anything. They are crazy fucked-up people that found a reason to act out. By Ron Paul making such statement, he essentially validated the terrorists' cause. Maybe not in some eyes, but in their eyes. It's a good thing he is considered the village idiot._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #47 September 14, 2011 So, you're agreeing with his conclusions, it's just that he shouldn't say them in public. Hmmm . . . I can't say I agree with that.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #48 September 14, 2011 >But his saying that terrorists attacked us due to occupation is the same as saying >that spouse abusers hit their wives for being insolent. More like saying that the husband of a woman you've been sleeping with may attack you if you mouth off to him. Is that OK? Nope - and he may well end up in jail with good cause if he tries it. But the wise man might not want to mouth off to the husband. Or even not sleep with his wife. >They are crazy fucked-up people that found a reason to act out. Yes. And you will never stop them. You can, however, make sure that the world they live in does not tolerate them, and are willing to root them out and destroy them on their own. Or you could give the rest of the world a reason to look the other way. Look at it this way. If Somalian pirates are attacked by terrorists, are you going to be writing your senator to tell him to do something about it? Think you might feel differently if they were attacking US relief ships? We want to be the relief ships, not the pirates. And quite often, we are - we just have to make sure we stay that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #49 September 14, 2011 Ron Paul is and was dead-on-the-money. Honesty does not get you elected. A bunch of gibberish and praises to God might get you elected in the GOP. At least he speaks the truth. I doubt that will change. He's kind of like Nader in that respect - he might never win, but at least his integrity is in order..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #50 September 14, 2011 Quote But as I stated before If Elmer Fudd or Eor were the canidate, they would beat Obama But you're quite wrong. Most of the GOP candidates can't beat him either. You've seen polls suggesting that an unnamed GOP candidate would win, but it's 2011 and in 2012 a real person has to be on the ballot. And for your sake I hope it's not one of those two bimbos. I'm not sure Parry can win either, given some of his evangelical history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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