normiss 806 #1 September 15, 2011 Apparently some old-school Amish in KY really don't care that orange triangle on their buggies. Go to jail! Think the Supremes will ever get this one? I would side with their beliefs. This is a waste of the system's time and money in my mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #2 September 15, 2011 They don't have to use the triangle. they can opt not to drive their buggies on the public road. Religious beliefs do not trump state law, nor should they. A similar group here in Alberta, the Hutterites, refused to get pictures on their drivers licenses. The Supreme court of Canada ruled against them. Freedom of religion does not include the right to endanger others on the road. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #3 September 15, 2011 "Religious beliefs do not trump state law" Not always true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #4 September 15, 2011 Pretty petty stuff really. Don't see how prosecuting these people will accomplish anything, or how it benefits the people of the state. Stories like that scream "ego-trip" in my mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #5 September 15, 2011 I'd like to see the state work on improving the relations with a religious group. It would certainly go over very well with all involved. Pick a freaking black reflective shape that IS acceptable to all parties and doesn't insult their religion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #6 September 15, 2011 I know, around here, coming up on one of their black buggies at night, they are near impossible to see, if not for the orange reflector."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #7 September 15, 2011 Yea, I know. Southern Illinois has a number of fairly large communities of them. When my dad sold his pick-up to a local, within days the truck was totaled from hitting an Amish buggy. Killed the horse. Messed the people up pretty bad too. Good thing they don't want to wear burkas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #8 September 15, 2011 Quote Pick a freaking black reflective shape that IS acceptable to all parties and doesn't insult their religion. There it is again...ya, we don't wanna insult them for the sake of public safety, but we'll insult them by saying they fucked up their life, they'll fuck it up again, they're delusional and believe in some imaginary friend.... You guys are too much, seriously...where's the hidden camera, eh...where is it?*looks around for hidden camera*Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #9 September 15, 2011 Quote Quote Pick a freaking black reflective shape that IS acceptable to all parties and doesn't insult their religion. There it is again...ya, we don't wanna insult them for the sake of public safety, but we'll insult them by saying they fucked up their life, they'll fuck it up again, they're delusional and believe in some imaginary friend.... You guys are too much, seriously...where's the hidden camera, eh...where is it?*looks around for hidden camera* I really didn't see that post as an insult to religious people or beliefs. I realize you're on-guard for that kind of thing, but I suggest you take a breath and give this one a second look. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #10 September 15, 2011 whatever, then take a look at all the other countless insults he throws out practically on a daily basis... I wouldn't be suprised if the only reason he's siding with the Amish is because it would increase their chances of gettin' smacked with a Mack. Eventhough he'd probably just be joking, it's still insulting.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #11 September 15, 2011 Resorting to PA's now? If you don't like my opinion, quit fucking reading it. Simply because I don't believe doesn't mean I won't support someone else's rights and desires to do so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #12 September 15, 2011 QuoteIf you don't like my opinion, quit fucking reading it. If everyone agreed, this forum would be pretty boring. If you can't take the heat why not just leave? ...btw, there was no PA, bub.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #13 September 15, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Pick a freaking black reflective shape that IS acceptable to all parties and doesn't insult their religion. There it is again...ya, we don't wanna insult them for the sake of public safety, but we'll insult them by saying they fucked up their life, they'll fuck it up again, they're delusional and believe in some imaginary friend.... You guys are too much, seriously...where's the hidden camera, eh...where is it?*looks around for hidden camera* I have nothing but the utmost respect for the Amish. Not only do they walk the walk, they don't impose their beliefs on me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #15 September 15, 2011 Exactly my point. Well, except that your post was nothing but an attack on me. Whatever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #16 September 15, 2011 Quote I have nothing but the utmost respect for the Amish. +1 Quote Not only do they walk the walk Walking the walk doesn't necessarily mean that you lead a perfect life, and though I think the Amish sin everyday in their own way, they come pretty close to prefection. Us christians in the "real world" fall way too many times...no doubt about that. That's why I understand the Amish lifestyle has to be the way it is. They are raised in a household that gives a solid foundation. They are sheltered from the negative influences from the outside world thus limiting the temptation to experience the lie and become even more corrupted an held captive by their carnality. But there are many Amish teens that run away to Amish havens for "escapees." They ditch the garbs, grab a beer, light up a smoke and peal out in a sports car...Can you imagine the excitement? But many of them see that the outside world isn't what it's all cracked up to be...they see it for what it is and many return home. Some want to visit their families but are cutt off because they're unwilling to repent from that lifestyle and return permanantly, so all communication is cutt off. Some are just become to wrapped up in the outside world and though they would like to go home, they won't or feel as though they can't, while others just go off and lead a "normal" life. There are some amish people about an hour away from where I'm at right now. Everytime I see them I have this desire to stay with them and experience their lifestyle...I think it would be refreshing, but I have some concerns... First,, if they were to accept me, I wouldn't wanna just waltz on in their and start stinkin' up the place, ya know.Second, Christ Prayed: My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth. As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. To me it seems as though they are santifying themselves by seclusion and I'm not so sure that's inline with scripture or who I want to be. There is pleasure in over comming the world when it's comming at you from every direction and that's what I think this is all about. I think I would miss it and wouldn't be able to stop thinking about all the other lost people who would love to come along for the ride. Christ called us to spread the word and he warned that they'll have us for it. I'm not saying that the Amish don't evangelize, I just don't know...perhaps they are a witness simply yy the cedible lifestyle they lead....I like that. Quote they don't impose their beliefs on me. There are many christians that don't impose their belief on others. The last thing I would want to do is force anybody to believe as I do...what's the point of having a bunch of base converts? When I was on the fence and then and atheist, people would come up to me and evangelize. I never felt once like they were imposing their beliefs on me. Sometimes I would ask questions...sometimes I would just listen and say, I'm all set man...thanks. Sometimes I would mock them. ...but years later it's like what they said all of a sudden made sense. That seed had finally sprouted and it saved my life. I finally understood scripture and their words stengthened my faith because it was finally validated for me. *In Photojournalist voice from Apocalypse now* Now I know things get heated in this place man, and your saying continues to echo in the winds of history, "it tends to bring out the worst in us." it'll probably happen again sometime in the vortex of this carnal illusion,man, but I'll forgive you and you'll forgive me...we should've been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas......maybe oneday we'll learn to cool out, man...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #17 September 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteIf you don't like my opinion, quit fucking reading it. If everyone agreed, this forum would be pretty boring. If you can't take the heat why not just leave? ...btw, there was no PA, bub. Yes there is. The basic content of your post was "I don't give a fuck what Normiss said this time, he's an asshole and I hate him." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #18 September 15, 2011 Quote Exactly my point. Well, except that your post was nothing but an attack on me. Whatever. Well excuse me...I just don't like people messin' with my peeps. I tend to be very protective...Sue me. Peace brah... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #19 September 15, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteIf you don't like my opinion, quit fucking reading it. If everyone agreed, this forum would be pretty boring. If you can't take the heat why not just leave? ...btw, there was no PA, bub. Yes there is. The basic content of your post was "I don't give a fuck what Normiss said this time, he's an asshole and I hate him." I'm an asshole, but at least I don't bitch when I get called out on it...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #20 September 15, 2011 Kentucky State Government is your "peeps"??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #21 September 15, 2011 Ya man...I guess them too! SAVE THE AMISH!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #22 September 15, 2011 Impressive reading comprehension my friend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #23 September 15, 2011 Thanks! Have a nice day...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #24 September 15, 2011 Quote Kentucky State Government is your "peeps"??? What prompted my original response was your insulting response about Ron in the other thread. I found it ironic that you are against insulting them by forcing them to use reflectors for public safety, but are willing to insult someone directly because of their religion. That's like totally backassward if I ever saw it...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #25 September 15, 2011 QuoteWalking the walk doesn't necessarily mean that you lead a perfect life, and though I think the Amish sin everyday in their own way, they come pretty close to prefection. I highly doubt that they are close to perfection. Amish sects have been involved in drug dealing, bootlegging, and other crimes. Some sects allow alcohol. Some years back, an Amish man, who was clearly intoxicated, was allowed to do a tandem at a DZ in this area. I was there. They TM is a good friend of mine. Even though I, and a few others, raised an objection to the jump, it happened anyways. Years ago, when I smoked pot, the Amish were the ones to get it from in PA.. Often saw them in bars outside of Harrisburg. I think they are no different than anyone else. You'll find good and bad in all sectors of society the world over."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
