Skyrad 0 #1 September 23, 2011 Internationally Texas has a reputation as DP central. Its often seen as a right wing Christian state with hardline views. Never having been there I don't know if that really is accurate but it is how the media portray it. Is it a Xenophobic state of hot heads and cactus or is Texas getting a unfair deal in the global (and US) media? Whats makes Texas so different?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #2 September 23, 2011 DP?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #3 September 23, 2011 Death PenaltyWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #4 September 23, 2011 Damn, and I thought you were talking about the other DP. You know the religious folks get kinky behind closed doors!"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #5 September 23, 2011 QuoteInternationally Texas has a reputation as DP central. Its often seen as a right wing Christian state with hardline views. Never having been there I don't know if that really is accurate but it is how the media portray it. Is it a Xenophobic state of hot heads and cactus or is Texas getting a unfair deal in the global (and US) media? Whats makes Texas so different? The AlamoPlease don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #6 September 23, 2011 I haven't been there in 40 years. I did like most Texans. Very friendly, down to earth people.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #7 September 23, 2011 Quote Damn, and I thought you were talking about the other DP. You know the religious folks get kinky behind closed doors! Wow...I was thinking 'displaced persons' maybe. Figure your first thought is sexual Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #8 September 23, 2011 Texas is so different because it can be. Here in the US the country is a unified conglomeration of different states. Each state has the authority to do things differently from other states. Hence, if Vermont wants socialized healthcare, Vermont can do it but other states don't have to. Each state has its own particular ethos. If you think about it, Texas has as much use for a skiing industry as Vermont has for an oil industry. A look at the background of Texas shows much of the development of laws. Texas is a wide open space with a history of agriculture and cattle ranching. Crimes against property and people, etc., were dealt with by the community and often had to occur outside the law. The US is not one culture, but an amalgam. E pluribus unum. Texas can have its own ethos. Death Valley Days didn't take part in Boston... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 September 23, 2011 Quote Internationally Texas has a reputation as DP central. Its often seen as a right wing Christian state with hardline views. Never having been there I don't know if that really is accurate but it is how the media portray it. Is it a Xenophobic state of hot heads and cactus or is Texas getting a unfair deal in the global (and US) media? Whats makes Texas so different? Now that nail was squarly hit. The military managed to keep sending me TDY to that backward placeMost of the state certainly fits that Bible Belt mentality to a tee. There are pockets of sanity of course.. and quite a few good people.. but those who have that shoot im... he needed killin for steppin on my grass" is very deeply ingrained and by far the majority. Property seems to be more important.. than peoples lives.... and last I heard.. the menfolk were still good at takin their revenge on other men takin "liberties" with their female possesions too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #10 September 23, 2011 QuoteIs it a Xenophobic state of hot heads and cactus or is Texas getting a unfair deal in the global (and US) media? Whats makes Texas so different? Texas is full of all kinds of people from all walks of life, all political affiliations, and so on. The media bash Texas because they're jealous of our success, independence and lifestyle. And they need a boogyman to attack to make themselves feel superior. There are several people right here in this forum who also subscribe to that personality style. All the BS people like to throw around is just a stereotype, nothing more, and those have no validity. Texas even has liberal enclaves, like Austin. You can find places in Texas to fit just about any kind of lifestyle (except maybe snow skiing). I've lived up and down the east coast and visited a lot of other states, but I love Texas, and really don't care to settle anywhere else. It has a wide variety of geography, cities, recreational pursuits, jobs, and a relatively cheap cost of living. "I'm not a native Texan, but I got here as soon as I could!" As far as the death penalty goes, see this: State execution per capita: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/state-execution-rates Note that Oklahoma has a higher per capita execution rate than Texas. And Delaware isn't far behind Texas. But when was the last time you heard the liberal media calling Oklahomans or Delawarens a bunch of barbarians for their death penalty? I'll bet you haven't. That right there alone is proof of the anti-Texas bigotry that many people hold. Fuck 'em. If you don't like what we do here, don't come here. You have 49 other states from which to choose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #11 September 23, 2011 I prefer New Mexico. Quote"Every calculation based on experience elsewhere fails in New Mexico" - Lew Wallace, Governor of Territorial New Mexico, 1878-1881Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #12 September 23, 2011 Quote I prefer New Mexico. Quote "Every calculation based on experience elsewhere fails in New Mexico" - Lew Wallace, Governor of Territorial New Mexico, 1878-1881 Author of 'Ben Hur'! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #13 September 23, 2011 Quotehe needed killin for steppin on my grass" is very deeply ingrained and by far the majority. Property seems to be more important.. than peoples lives. Interesting. I've spent some time there and even had my own Texas Belle for a bit. And my impression was of some of the warmest people I've ever come across. A city boy like me was welcomed with handshakes and the stereotypical southern hospitality. Then again, I've never been anywhere that I haven't liked and haven't found the people to be kind and generous. Perhaps wherever we go is a reflection of us as individuals. If I go someplace where I look down at people and I'm pretty sure that they'll pick up on the hostility and return it. Go someplace with a mind towards making friends and appreciating what there is and people generally respond well and in kind. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #14 September 23, 2011 You can tell a Texan from a mile away. Get up close and you can't tell them shit!My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #15 September 23, 2011 QuoteQuotehe needed killin for steppin on my grass" is very deeply ingrained and by far the majority. Property seems to be more important.. than peoples lives. Interesting. I've spent some time there and even had my own Texas Belle for a bit. And my impression was of some of the warmest people I've ever come across. A city boy like me was welcomed with handshakes and the stereotypical southern hospitality. Then again, I've never been anywhere that I haven't liked and haven't found the people to be kind and generous. Perhaps wherever we go is a reflection of us as individuals. If I go someplace where I look down at people and I'm pretty sure that they'll pick up on the hostility and return it. Go someplace with a mind towards making friends and appreciating what there is and people generally respond well and in kind. --------------------------------------------------------- A wonderful way to look at not only your travels but life itself. I wonder if the others who talk down so much about Texans CONSTANTLY really even see their reflection in the mirror. But then it can be rather hard to see when you have your head stuck straight up your ASS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,558 #16 September 23, 2011 QuoteNote that Oklahoma has a higher per capita execution rate than Texas. And Delaware isn't far behind Texas. But when was the last time you heard the liberal media calling Oklahomans or Delawarens a bunch of barbarians for their death penalty? I'll bet you haven't. That right there alone is proof of the anti-Texas bigotry that many people hold. Or, from a slightly less persecution-complex oriented viewpoint, proof that absolute figures matter as much or more in these things than ratios. So Delaware executed almost as many people per capita? It's still 15 plays 472. It's very hard to be seen as being as bloodthirsty as the state that's killed 31.5 times more people than you have. At the end of the day, Texas has executed nearly 4.5 times as many people than its nearest competitor. That's why you're the standard bearer, not because journalists are jealous of your cost of living.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #17 September 23, 2011 Quote At the end of the day, Texas has executed nearly 4.5 times as many people than its nearest competitor. That's why you're the standard bearer, not because journalists are jealous of your cost of living. Considering the population of Texas is 4x the average for the country, 4.5x doesn't seem out of hand. per capita has to be consider. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,558 #18 September 23, 2011 QuoteQuote At the end of the day, Texas has executed nearly 4.5 times as many people than its nearest competitor. That's why you're the standard bearer, not because journalists are jealous of your cost of living. Considering the population of Texas is 4x the average for the country, 4.5x doesn't seem out of hand. Except it's not 4.5 times the average quantity of executions, it's 4.5 times the quantity of state #2 - state #2 being a state that is also both more populous and with a higher rate of executions than average. If we were talking averages, then Texas executes 13.5 times more people than the average DP state. Is that in hand? Quoteper capita has to be consider. Exactly. Considered, but not taken as the sole and only justification for headlines apart from "OMG they hate Texas!"Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bclark 0 #19 September 24, 2011 Texas is a great place to live. Lots of jobs, good cost of living. Texas is a very diverse and multicultural state. There are plenty of people to represent any political or philosophical ideal. I appreciate the fact that the laws in Texas are strongly upheld (for the most part), also the fact that people are free to believe as they wish. (Even Christians and Conservatives, who seem to be under attack as much as any other group these days.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #20 September 24, 2011 Quote...absolute figures matter as much or more in these things than ratios. So Delaware executed almost as many people per capita? It's still 15 plays 472. It's very hard to be seen as being as bloodthirsty as the state that's killed 31.5 times more people than you have. At the end of the day, Texas has executed nearly 4.5 times as many people than its nearest competitor. That's why you're the standard bearer. So if you want to use absolute numbers, then that would make Eloy, Arizona the most unsafe dropzone in America, because they've had more fatalities and accidents than anyone else. We'll just disregard that little fact that they also make more jumps than any other drop zone. Do you want to go with that idea? Because if you do, it just shows that you're using emotion and sensationalism, rather than logic and intellect, to judge things, because you want to scare people about your personal issue using a biased viewpoint. And that is not how we should be determining political issues for our country. Laws should be made based upon facts and careful deliberation. California has more murders than any other state. Shall we just disregard that it is also the most populous state? Have you ever heard the media characterize California as being home to a bunch of ignorant redneck gun-toting bloodthirsty killers? Nope. But Louisiana has a murder *rate* twice that of California. So where would you be more worried about being murdered: In California or in Louisiana? Damn those bloodthirsty redneck Okies an Californians! Disclaimer: I do not for a moment think that Eloy is more unsafe than other drop zones. I used them as an example simply to illustrate the flaw of using absolute numbers versus ratios. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,558 #21 September 24, 2011 Quote So if you want to use absolute numbers, then that would make Eloy, Arizona the most unsafe dropzone in America, because they've had more fatalities and accidents than anyone else. How many more? Does 4.5 times more than any other? Quote Because if you do, it just shows that you're using emotion and sensationalism, Me? Remember John, we're talking about journalists. And if you think an american mainstream journalist would only resort to sensationalism out of hatred of Texas...Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #22 September 24, 2011 Texas has changed a great deal in the last 10 - 15 yrs. So many people from all-over has changed things over-shadowing 'native Texas' thinking and politics. That's what happens in a 'mobile' society when so many jobs are created and un-employment is high in other parts of the country. Also, Texas is becoming a big retirement area for the 'boomers'. It's not 'good ol' Texas' anymore where it was oil, cattle and cotton. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #23 September 24, 2011 It's the high quality meth and minimum wage jobs. Tends to give them Texans big heads. Helps to keep them big hats on in big winds."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #24 September 24, 2011 QuoteIt's the high quality meth and minimum wage jobs. Tends to give them Texans big heads. Helps to keep them big hats on in big winds. I understood that Missouri was the 'meth center' of the U.S.!? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrmedic 0 #25 September 24, 2011 Gotta be said. Other states try to phase out the Death Penalty, we're putting in Express Lanes!!! It may not stop some crackhead from killing someone in a drug crazed rage. But he damn sure won't get to do it a second time. Death penalty is decided on by 12 people. That's a hell of a lot more consideration than the victims are EVER given.CYA!....up there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
