NewGuy2005 53 #1 October 19, 2011 ...or is he? http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/18/us/immigrant-deportations/index.html?hpt=hp_c2 "Washington (CNN) -- Nearly 400,000 people were deported from the United States in the past fiscal year, the largest number in the history of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, the government announced Tuesday." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #2 October 19, 2011 I think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #3 October 19, 2011 QuoteI think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Tell that to Rick Perry. An estimated 40% of his touted "new jobs" went to illegals.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #4 October 19, 2011 So someone on Pennsylvania Ave is doing a crappy job of protecting the borders, one of the few jobs that the Feds are actually supposed to do.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #5 October 19, 2011 Quote I think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Well, there's always that idea of an electric fence with a moat filled with alligators!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 3 #6 October 19, 2011 Here in AZ the problem could be solved with volun teers on the border, cost = zero. Obviously, that is not the goal, however. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #7 October 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteI think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Tell that to Rick Perry. An estimated 40% of his touted "new jobs" went to illegals. So, you're saying that the States should be able to enforce immigration laws if Fed.gov won't?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #8 October 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteI think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Tell that to Rick Perry. An estimated 40% of his touted "new jobs" went to illegals. So, you're saying that the States should be able to enforce immigration laws if Fed.gov won't? Nope, just saying that touting your job creation skills when 40% of the jobs went to illegals is lame, like your strawman.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #9 October 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteI think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Tell that to Rick Perry. An estimated 40% of his touted "new jobs" went to illegals. Don't complain about Perry. If he gets the nomination, he won't have a prayer (pun intended) of winning the general election and your guy will walk away with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #10 October 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Tell that to Rick Perry. An estimated 40% of his touted "new jobs" went to illegals. So, you're saying that the States should be able to enforce immigration laws if Fed.gov won't? Nope, just saying that touting your job creation skills when 40% of the jobs went to illegals is lame, I'm sure it's just like the claim that 'most of the jobs were minimum wage' that was debunked. Maybe CIS can actually come up with some hard data instead of estimates at some point. Quotelike your strawman. Strawman? How so? The thread *IS* about immigration and not jobs.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #11 October 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Tell that to Rick Perry. An estimated 40% of his touted "new jobs" went to illegals. So, you're saying that the States should be able to enforce immigration laws if Fed.gov won't? Nope, just saying that touting your job creation skills when 40% of the jobs went to illegals is lame, like your strawman. Maybe if Obama had actually protected the border there would not be illegals to take the jobs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #12 October 19, 2011 QuoteMaybe if Obama had actually protected the border there would not be illegals to take the jobs.There were an estimated 12.5 million in 2007. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #13 October 19, 2011 >There were an estimated 12.5 million in 2007. Exactly! And what was Obama doing? Protecting the border? Obviously not. He didn't even stop Saddam Hussein from bombing the WTC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #14 October 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Tell that to Rick Perry. An estimated 40% of his touted "new jobs" went to illegals. So, you're saying that the States should be able to enforce immigration laws if Fed.gov won't? Nope, just saying that touting your job creation skills when 40% of the jobs went to illegals is lame, I'm sure it's just like the claim that 'most of the jobs were minimum wage' that was debunked. Maybe CIS can actually come up with some hard data instead of estimates at some point. Quotelike your strawman. Strawman? How so? The thread *IS* about immigration and not jobs. Buy a dictionary and you will know why it's a strawman.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #15 October 19, 2011 QuoteI think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Not only is he kicking them out, the economy is so crappy that some are leaving voluntarily. Maybe that was Obama's plan for the economy--make it so crappy all the illegals would leave."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #16 October 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Tell that to Rick Perry. An estimated 40% of his touted "new jobs" went to illegals. So, you're saying that the States should be able to enforce immigration laws if Fed.gov won't? Nope, just saying that touting your job creation skills when 40% of the jobs went to illegals is lame, I'm sure it's just like the claim that 'most of the jobs were minimum wage' that was debunked. Maybe CIS can actually come up with some hard data instead of estimates at some point. Quotelike your strawman. Strawman? How so? The thread *IS* about immigration and not jobs. Buy a dictionary and you will know why it's a strawman. Learn to read one and you'll know why it wasn't.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #17 October 19, 2011 QuoteI think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. If your government was serious in wanting to keep illegals out they should of installed an automated system using some thing like a GAU-8 Avenger all along the US Canadian border.. Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #18 October 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Tell that to Rick Perry. An estimated 40% of his touted "new jobs" went to illegals. So, you're saying that the States should be able to enforce immigration laws if Fed.gov won't? Nope, just saying that touting your job creation skills when 40% of the jobs went to illegals is lame, I'm sure it's just like the claim that 'most of the jobs were minimum wage' that was debunked. Maybe CIS can actually come up with some hard data instead of estimates at some point. Quotelike your strawman. Strawman? How so? The thread *IS* about immigration and not jobs. Buy a dictionary and you will know why it's a strawman. Learn to read one and you'll know why it wasn't. QED. "So, you're saying that the States should be able to enforce immigration laws if Fed.gov won't?"... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #19 October 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Tell that to Rick Perry. An estimated 40% of his touted "new jobs" went to illegals. So, you're saying that the States should be able to enforce immigration laws if Fed.gov won't? Nope, just saying that touting your job creation skills when 40% of the jobs went to illegals is lame, I'm sure it's just like the claim that 'most of the jobs were minimum wage' that was debunked. Maybe CIS can actually come up with some hard data instead of estimates at some point. Quotelike your strawman. Strawman? How so? The thread *IS* about immigration and not jobs. Buy a dictionary and you will know why it's a strawman. Learn to read one and you'll know why it wasn't. QED. "So, you're saying that the States should be able to enforce immigration laws if Fed.gov won't?" So, your post was a non-sequitur attempt to smear Perry/Texas instead of a rebuttal to GM's post about Federal handling of immigration? In that case, I apologize for treating it as a valid response to the thread - you may continue with your lame attempts to Republican-bash.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #20 October 19, 2011 Thank you for admitting that you were wrong and I was correct. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 October 19, 2011 Quote Thank you for admitting that you were wrong and I was correct. My condolences to your ego, but no, didn't do *that* either.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertAttorney 0 #22 October 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteI think they are doing a decent job of rounding them up and deporting them. They just need to work more on keeping them out. Tell that to Rick Perry. An estimated 40% of his touted "new jobs" went to illegals. So, you're saying that the States should be able to enforce immigration laws if Fed.gov won't? Live in Arizona or another Border state for awhile. No one who has personally seen the piss-poor job the Fed has done on the border would disagree with empowering the states.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
