Butters 0
QuoteWeaseling again?
Did I mention taxes? Yes. Did I mention income? No. Stop trolling, you're smelling up my thread ...
mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteWeaseling again?
Did I mention taxes? Yes. Did I mention income? No. Stop trolling, you're smelling up my thread ...
If you weren't talking about income tax, then mea culpa....maybe you can expound on what taxes you WERE talking about, then.
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kallend 2,027
QuoteQuoteQuoteWeaseling again?
Did I mention taxes? Yes. Did I mention income? No. Stop trolling, you're smelling up my thread ...
If you weren't talking about income tax, then mea culpa....maybe you can expound on what taxes you WERE talking about, then.
You could try reading the OP for a change.
And posts 9, 13, 21 and 23. It's not like people hadn't pointed this out to you already.
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Butters 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteWeaseling again?
Did I mention taxes? Yes. Did I mention income? No. Stop trolling, you're smelling up my thread ...
If you weren't talking about income tax, then mea culpa....maybe you can expound on what taxes you WERE talking about, then.
Taxes
Butters 0
QuoteYou could try reading the OP for a change.
You should learn to take your own advice.
jclalor 12
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote
***no you are correct, the cut was in SS not in fed income tax. once again the idiots in washington messed up. Why would they reduce the income on a program that is already in trouble? drilling a bigger hole in the boat won't keep it afloat longer.
you are wrong.
http://tech.mit.edu/V130/N46/long4.html
That was the SocSec tax reduction, not income tax.
*YOU* are wrong.
The word "income" did not appear in Butters' OP rant, he just mentioned taxes.Quote... didn't lower taxes on the middle and lower class,
Fact is that TAXES have gone down on the middle and lower class.
Weaseling again?
Weaseling? What part of federal income tax cut do you not understand?
QuotePresident Obama has also signed two major pieces of tax-cutting legisltion into law. The first, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, included a variety of tax cuts that benefited nearly every single American household. ARRA contained the Making Work Pay tax credit that directly reduced a family’s income tax bill by up to $800, which, overall, reduced tax revenue by about $116 billion. It included expansions of the child, earned income, American Opportunity, and first-time homebuyer tax credits. ARRA patched up the alternative minimum tax, providing $70 billion in tax cuts, and cut a wide array of business taxes, together totaling another $60 billion.
How could someone like you, who is so well educated by Fox, not know this?
mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWeaseling again?
Did I mention taxes? Yes. Did I mention income? No. Stop trolling, you're smelling up my thread ...
If you weren't talking about income tax, then mea culpa....maybe you can expound on what taxes you WERE talking about, then.
Taxes
So, you WERE talking about income tax.
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kallend 2,027
Quote
Not my fault if you use inappropriate titles for the threads you start, and then make factual errors in your OPs.
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mnealtx 0
QuoteHow could someone like you, who is so well educated by Fox, not know this?
Tax credit != tax cut. I'm unsurprised that you, who is so well educated by HuffPo, *doesn't* know this.
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jclalor 12
QuoteQuoteQuoteHow could someone like you, who is so well educated by Fox, not know this?
Tax credit != tax cut. I'm unsurprised that you, who is so well educated by HuffPo, *doesn't* know this.
Are you paying less in federal income tax under Obama or Bush? Come on now, you can say it, no one will laugh.
I just checked the IRS site for the 2008 ez tax schedule for an income of $60,000...$11,350
2010... $11,188
It's fucking amazing that most people did not know they got a federal income tax cut under Obama.
Butters 0
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Not my fault if you use inappropriate titles for the threads you start, and then make factual errors in your OPs.
If it's not your fault then who should we blame? The education system ... wait, aren't you a part of the education system? Yes, you are. So I guess it is your fault.
This thread has to many trolls and is beginning to smell ... have fun, I'm out.
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I just checked the IRS site for the 2008 ez tax schedule for an income of $60,000...$11,350
2010... $11,188
It's fucking amazing that most people did not know they got a federal income tax cut under Obama.
That "cut" is less significant than the temporary (?) change to the payroll tax for SS. What you are pointing out is that the brackets get altered for inflation. Normally you'd hope to see salary increases to match, but in this particularly period, not the case for a lot of people. In a real dollar sense, people are losing, even with paying $162 less.
kallend 2,027
QuoteQuoteHow could someone like you, who is so well educated by Fox, not know this?
Tax credit != tax cut. I'm unsurprised that you, who is so well educated by HuffPo, *doesn't* know this.
Wow, mnealtx is weaseling in earnest now.
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kallend 2,027
QuoteQuote
I just checked the IRS site for the 2008 ez tax schedule for an income of $60,000...$11,350
2010... $11,188
It's fucking amazing that most people did not know they got a federal income tax cut under Obama.
That "cut" is less significant than the temporary (?) change to the payroll tax for SS. What you are pointing out is that the brackets get altered for inflation. Normally you'd hope to see salary increases to match, but in this particularly period, not the case for a lot of people. In a real dollar sense, people are losing, even with paying $162 less.
Not really the point, though. The point is that the statement re taxes on the middle class in the OP was incorrect, false and wrong (all at the same time).
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billvon 2,991
Cool! Well, in that case, new tax bracket != tax increase. We can get more money without raising taxes. Budget problem solved.
mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteHow could someone like you, who is so well educated by Fox, not know this?
Tax credit != tax cut. I'm unsurprised that you, who is so well educated by HuffPo, *doesn't* know this.
Wow, mnealtx is weaseling in earnest now.
Wow, kallend attacks the poster instead of rebutting the content of the post....as usual.
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mnealtx 0
Quote>Tax credit != tax cut.
Cool! Well, in that case, new tax bracket != tax increase. We can get more money without raising taxes. Budget problem solved.
That's even more lame than jclalor's claims.
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kallend 2,027
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHow could someone like you, who is so well educated by Fox, not know this?
Tax credit != tax cut. I'm unsurprised that you, who is so well educated by HuffPo, *doesn't* know this.
Wow, mnealtx is weaseling in earnest now.
Wow, kallend attacks the poster instead of rebutting the content of the post....as usual.
No need, the absurdity of the content of your post spoke for itself. Your attempt to justify the unjustifiable was pathetic.
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mnealtx 0
QuoteNo need, the absurdity of the content of your post spoke for itself. Your attempt to justify the unjustifiable was pathetic.
Even lamer than your usual attempts.
While the end result of a price cut vs. a rebate is the same, they're *not* the same thing.
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kallend 2,027
QuoteQuoteNo need, the absurdity of the content of your post spoke for itself. Your attempt to justify the unjustifiable was pathetic.
Even lamer than your usual attempts.
Make sure to join jclalor in protesting the auto industry's price hikes when they quit doing dealer incentives for the year....after all, it's the same thing you/he are arguing.
Now lamely trying to create a diversion.
Taxes on the middle class have decreased. Even Butters admits it, and he started the thread.
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billvon 2,991
Sorry; I should know better than to try to out-lame one of your posts.
mnealtx 0
Quote>That's even more lame . . .
Sorry; I should know better than to try to out-lame one of your posts.
Rubber/glue? You really MUST be out of arguments.
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POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
Weaseling again?
Please highlight the word "income" in Butters' statement.
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