Belgian_Draft 0 #51 October 21, 2011 Quote WOW.. I was unaware he was a republican OMG you slay me! That is SOOOOOOO funny! LOL! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #52 October 21, 2011 Quote . . . GaDaffyDuck's . . . Bwahhh hah hah. . . Sorry completely off topic. I just haven't heard him called that in some years. Remember this line? "Ghadaffi Fried Chicken, we do Chicken right . . .OR ELSE!!!!" Oh, the eighties. . ._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertAttorney 0 #53 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteProbably the same fate as Saddam. Buried in secret where nobody will know the location. Saddam Hussein's funeral was more or less public, and his gravesite is publicly known and, I believe, publicly accessible. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?GRid=17206247&page=gr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #54 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteOh, I think there's been plenty of chest thumping from both administrations. I am a lot better with winners doing it ... than a bunch of losers who went for the wrong reasosns... killed thousands.. and didn't even win the damn thing. it's war. nobody wins. grow up. (and you say that like it would be OK if they did "win")-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elite_Marksman 0 #55 October 21, 2011 Hussein did use gas against the Kurds as well as against the Iranians in the Iran-Iraq war. Not to mention his campaign of genocide against the Kurds, the commonplace murder of his political enemies, his son Uday's crimes were at the very least overlooked, if not condoned. While there may or may not have been chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons present in 2003, his regime needed to end. It should have happened in 1991, especially when many Iraqis revolted hoping UN forces would help them, but better Hussein be removed from power 15 years late than to have his son take over who would likely have been just as bad. As to why the middle east, Africa, and eastern Europe are as screwed up as they are today is entirely a different story, but we can't undo the imperialism of the last 300 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyper 0 #56 October 21, 2011 QuoteHussein did use gas against the Kurds as well as against the Iranians in the Iran-Iraq war. Not to mention his campaign of genocide against the Kurds, the commonplace murder of his political enemies, his son Uday's crimes were at the very least overlooked, if not condoned. While there may or may not have been chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons present in 2003, his regime needed to end. It should have happened in 1991, especially when many Iraqis revolted hoping UN forces would help them, but better Hussein be removed from power 15 years late than to have his son take over who would likely have been just as bad. As to why the middle east, Africa, and eastern Europe are as screwed up as they are today is entirely a different story, but we can't undo the imperialism of the last 300 years. do you think NATO needs reasons? do you really believe in those stories? There are Turks currently attacking the Kurds in Iraq as well. Should Turkey be bombed? Main "reason" to attack Iraq was that "Iraq has a weapons of mass destruction which can be used against western world". I haven´t seen those weapons yet - did you? The world is much bigger than USA and NATO. And the true is far more bigger than corporate media in the western countries. As you probably know the military employees work in those media as well - to create the ´true´ which suits the military purposes. Try to question everything you hear there and soon you´ll begin to see the reality as it is and not the reality they want you to see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #57 October 21, 2011 QuoteGhadaffi dead? I didn't realize that The Ghadaffi Dead were still touring. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elite_Marksman 0 #58 October 21, 2011 I never said there were WMD in Iraq in 2003, there may or may not have been we'll never know. My point was that Hussein repeatedly showed the world that he was willing to use chemical and biological weapons as well as commit mass murder. Because of this his regime needed to be ended. It should have happened in 1991, it took 15 more years and the "reasons" we invaded in 2003 may or may not have been fabricated, but it needed to be done. That said the UN needs to take a much more proactive and aggressive role in "peacekeeping." Currently UN "peacekeeping" is a joke. The soldiers need to be armed and they need to be authorized to use force in defense of not only their lives but also the lives of others. That the UN refuses to involve itself in situations where there is a clear need for outside intervention (Darfur, Rwanda, Burundi to name a few) is a disgrace. It is long since time that an individual nation's sovereignty is nullified when it commits or allows serious crimes against its people to be committed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #59 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteGhadaffi dead? I didn't realize that The Ghadaffi Dead were still touring. Did anyone ever figure out the correct spelling of his name? How will it be spelled on his grave? (Assuming no burial at sea) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #60 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteGhadaffi dead? I didn't realize that The Ghadaffi Dead were still touring. Did anyone ever figure out the correct spelling of his name? How will it be spelled on his grave? (Assuming no burial at sea) Yes. Among the items seized in the compound raids was a passport that had an English spelling of his name. I don't recall what it was, but as I recall absolutely no western agency; US government or media had ever used THAT particular spelling. Edited to add -- Here we go; http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/08/rebel-discovers-qaddafi-passport-real-spelling-of-leaders-name/244077/quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #61 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI wonder if he will get a burial at sea? Probably the same fate as Saddam. Buried in secret where nobody will know the location. I bet not. Why not? New government in control now. Why would they want his grave to become a shrine?OBL was killed by US soldiers, some will say he was a martyr of the capitalist devil. Ghadaffi was killed by his peers.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #62 October 21, 2011 Quote OBL was killed by US soldiers, some will say he was a martyr of the capitalist devil. The capitalist devil...lol.never heard that one before...perhaps you meant the Great Whore?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #63 October 21, 2011 QuoteThey do seem to be working towards thta finally..... baby steps my dear... baby steps NATO left Gaddafi in power for what? 4 decades? Because, you know, he sold his oil to the Western nations. Nothing changed that, not even G. blowing up a jet liner over Scotland. And then finally the Libyan people got sick of their dictator, and started a revolution. When it became clear the rebels had a real shot at becoming the new owner of the Libyan oil, NATO couldn't get on his knees to swallow the cock of this potential new owner of the oil fast enough. And don't get me wrong, I can relate to that, for the right price I'll probably swallow any cock too, but at least in that case I woudn't pretend to be anything nobler then a whore. It's a step in the right direction in comparison to (for example) Iraq, which simply was/is robbing a nation from it's oil under false pretences, but it's miles away from something that has the semblance of a noble cause. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #64 October 21, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Ghadaffi dead? I didn't realize that The Ghadaffi Dead were still touring. Did anyone ever figure out the correct spelling of his name? How will it be spelled on his grave? (Assuming no burial at sea) Yes. Among the items seized in the compound raids was a passport that had an English spelling of his name. I don't recall what it was, but as I recall absolutely no western agency; US government or media had ever used THAT particular spelling. Edited to add -- Here we go; http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/08/rebel-discovers-qaddafi-passport-real-spelling-of-leaders-name/244077/ WOW!! 112 different ways to spell his name? At least now I can find some peace in his death. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #65 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteseems that [Ghaddafi] was severely wounded during the Syrte attack, and that he died. That's generally what happens to people who are summarily executed after capture: they die. Not that I'm shedding tears. Live by the sword, et al. I have to agree but its not the most auspicious way to begin a democracy.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #66 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteseems that [Ghaddafi] was severely wounded during the Syrte attack, and that he died. That's generally what happens to people who are summarily executed after capture: they die. Not that I'm shedding tears. Live by the sword, et al. I have to agree but its not the most auspicious way to begin a democracy.As much as I didn't like the Raïs, he was put down worse than any animal. The people who did that deserve no respect. They are not human.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #67 October 21, 2011 Unfortunately history disagrees, their behaviour was all to human.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #68 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuote>I was really hoping Obama would do SOMETHING worthwhile, but he hasn't >and probably won't. Well, looking at it from a military perspective, Bush allowed Osama Bin Laden to attack the US. Obama got him. Hard to claim that's not an improvement, or not worthwhile. That's not the way my friends who are in the military see it. They see it as Clinton allowed the attacks and it was Bush who got OBL. Obama just watched it happen. Anyhow you look at it, more tyrannical dictators have been overthrown and more terrorist leaders killed with less loss of US lives and treasure under Obama's watch than under Bush's. And Obama hasn't even posed under a "Mission Accomplished" banner.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #69 October 21, 2011 Quote Quote Quote >I was really hoping Obama would do SOMETHING worthwhile, but he hasn't >and probably won't. Well, looking at it from a military perspective, Bush allowed Osama Bin Laden to attack the US. Obama got him. Hard to claim that's not an improvement, or not worthwhile. That's not the way my friends who are in the military see it. They see it as Clinton allowed the attacks and it was Bush who got OBL. Obama just watched it happen. Anyhow you look at it, more tyrannical dictators have been overthrown and more terrorist leaders killed with less loss of US lives and treasure under Obama's watch than under Bush's. And Obama hasn't even posed under a "Mission Accomplished" banner. Way to go Obama Oh, wait Quote NATO Unaware Qaddafi Was in Convoy at Time of Strike, Officials Say http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10/21/libyans-qaddafi-to-be-buried-in-islamic-tradition/ Good stuff "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #70 October 21, 2011 Quote Unfortunately history disagrees, their behaviour was all to human. barbarians, uncivilized, way un-norwegian scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sacex250 0 #71 October 21, 2011 Quote A school example of middle age barbarism. Even more, killing a war prisoner is a crime against humanity. But hey, who dares to accuse NATO general anyway? Who is next to be shot down? Iran? Syria? China? That looked like a normal arrest by the LAPD to me! It's all been said before, no sense repeating it here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #72 October 21, 2011 Are those grapes sour enough?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 800 #73 October 21, 2011 Vive la France! Nice of NATO to slow him down so the rebels could capture and torture. In with blood, out with blood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyper 0 #74 October 21, 2011 QuoteIn with blood, out with blood. The amount of blood nato made all around the world to install the puppet governments... We can estimate the amount of blood that will be lost when they get swept from the scene? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #75 October 21, 2011 QuoteAnd Obama hasn't even posed under a "Mission Accomplished" banner. No, he'll just mention it over and over like Kerry and Vietnam.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
