Amazon 7 #76 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteAnd Obama hasn't even posed under a "Mission Accomplished" banner. No, he'll just mention it over and over like Kerry and Vietnam. Did Kerry serve in Vietnam???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #77 October 21, 2011 >Did Kerry serve in Vietnam? ssshhh, he's on a roll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #78 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnd Obama hasn't even posed under a "Mission Accomplished" banner. No, he'll just mention it over and over like Kerry and Vietnam. Did Kerry serve in Vietnam???? On a river boat, forget what you call them. Didn't he get a Purple Heart for cutting his finger on a beer can pop tab?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #79 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAnd Obama hasn't even posed under a "Mission Accomplished" banner. No, he'll just mention it over and over like Kerry and Vietnam. Did Kerry serve in Vietnam???? On a river boat, forget what you call them. Didn't he get a Purple Heart for cutting his finger on a beer can pop tab? Shrapnel fro an RPG is a beer can??? who knew....... Didn't your hero get a medal for how many glasses of champagne he consumed... or was that how many ounces of blow did he inhale.. before not showing up for his flight physical and its golden flow test Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #80 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAnd Obama hasn't even posed under a "Mission Accomplished" banner. No, he'll just mention it over and over like Kerry and Vietnam. Did Kerry serve in Vietnam???? On a river boat, forget what you call them. Didn't he get a Purple Heart for cutting his finger on a beer can pop tab? Didn't your hero get a medal for how many glasses of champagne he consumed... or was that how many ounces of blow did he inhale.. before not showing up for his flight physical and its golden flow test LMAO Bush? His military service, (National Guard?) is shady at best... Edited to add: now his daddy is a real war vet... shot down in WWII"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #81 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAnd Obama hasn't even posed under a "Mission Accomplished" banner. No, he'll just mention it over and over like Kerry and Vietnam. Did Kerry serve in Vietnam???? On a river boat, forget what you call them. Didn't he get a Purple Heart for cutting his finger on a beer can pop tab? Didn't your hero get a medal for how many glasses of champagne he consumed... or was that how many ounces of blow did he inhale.. before not showing up for his flight physical and its golden flow test LMAO Bush? His military service, (National Guard?) is shady at best... Edited to add: now his daddy is a real war vet... shot down in WWII As commander of the aircraft.. he left his two crewman behind.... just the facts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #82 October 21, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote And Obama hasn't even posed under a "Mission Accomplished" banner. No, he'll just mention it over and over like Kerry and Vietnam. Did Kerry serve in Vietnam???? On a river boat, forget what you call them. Didn't he get a Purple Heart for cutting his finger on a beer can pop tab? Didn't your hero get a medal for how many glasses of champagne he consumed... or was that how many ounces of blow did he inhale.. before not showing up for his flight physical and its golden flow test LMAO Bush? His military service, (National Guard?) is shady at best... Edited to add: now his daddy is a real war vet... shot down in WWII As commander of the aircraft.. he left his two crewman behind.... just the facts. I don't know the details, but I didn't say he was a hero, just a vet. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #83 October 21, 2011 >he left his two crewman behind.... just the facts. And he left lots of airplane bits in the water. Litterbug. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #84 October 21, 2011 QuoteAs commander of the aircraft.. he left his two crewman behind.... just the facts. Just NOT the facts...as is your norm. "With his engine afire, Bush flew several miles from the island, where he and one other crew member on the TBM Avenger bailed out of the aircraft;[6] the other man's parachute did not open.[1] It has not been determined which man bailed out with Bush[1] as both Delaney and White were killed as a result of the battle"Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #85 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteAs commander of the aircraft.. he left his two crewman behind.... just the facts. Just NOT the facts...as is your norm. "With his engine afire, Bush flew several miles from the island, where he and one other crew member on the TBM Avenger bailed out of the aircraft;[6] the other man's parachute did not open.[1] It has not been determined which man bailed out with Bush[1] as both Delaney and White were killed as a result of the battle" Neither of his crew survived.. or were ever found Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #86 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteAs commander of the aircraft.. he left his two crewman behind.... just the facts. Just NOT the facts...as is your norm. "With his engine afire, Bush flew several miles from the island, where he and one other crew member on the TBM Avenger bailed out of the aircraft;[6] the other man's parachute did not open.[1] It has not been determined which man bailed out with Bush[1] as both Delaney and White were killed as a result of the battle" Neither of his crew survived.. or were ever found And I presume that you're thinking you have some sort of point by that?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlie5 0 #87 October 21, 2011 Bush is a murdering murderer like all republiclowns. If only they had Ted "Lifeguard" Kennedy there to rescue them.The feather butts bounce off ya like raindrops hitting a battle-star when they come in too fast...kinda funny to watch. - airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #88 October 21, 2011 Quote If only they had Ted "Lifeguard" Kennedy there to rescue them. Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #89 October 21, 2011 QuoteBush is a murdering murderer like all republiclowns. If only they had Ted "Lifeguard" Kennedy there to rescue them. Hmmmmm I do seem to remember that Ted did actually serve in the Army during the Korean war. I guess that does not count...... I think there is some pretty good documentation that the Kennedy family have a far better record of military service that the Bush family. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #90 October 21, 2011 Quote Are those grapes sour enough? No problem here The desperation is fun to observe however"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #91 October 21, 2011 Quote Quote Are those grapes sour enough? No problem here The desperation is fun to observe however I bet it is.. every morning when you look in the mirrorDoes that smile stay there thru all the desparation?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #92 October 21, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Are those grapes sour enough? No problem here The desperation is fun to observe however I bet it is.. every morning when you look in the mirrorDoes that smile stay there thru all the desparation?? Time for popcorn"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #93 October 21, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Are those grapes sour enough? No problem here The desperation is fun to observe however I bet it is.. every morning when you look in the mirrorDoes that smile stay there thru all the desparation?? Time for popcorn I love popcorn.. I am going to miss it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #94 October 21, 2011 Quote Quote Quote >I was really hoping Obama would do SOMETHING worthwhile, but he hasn't >and probably won't. Well, looking at it from a military perspective, Bush allowed Osama Bin Laden to attack the US. Obama got him. Hard to claim that's not an improvement, or not worthwhile. That's not the way my friends who are in the military see it. They see it as Clinton allowed the attacks and it was Bush who got OBL. Obama just watched it happen. Anyhow you look at it, more tyrannical dictators have been overthrown and more terrorist leaders killed with less loss of US lives and treasure under Obama's watch than under Bush's. And Obama hasn't even posed under a "Mission Accomplished" banner. Didja notice it was the natives who took over the goverment and not the US? I wonder if that had anything to do with the cost to the US in lives and dollars. Nah, no connection at all.Try to compare apples to apples. I know you have the education to do so, so why not show us you have some common sense to go with it?HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #95 October 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>I was really hoping Obama would do SOMETHING worthwhile, but he hasn't >and probably won't. Well, looking at it from a military perspective, Bush allowed Osama Bin Laden to attack the US. Obama got him. Hard to claim that's not an improvement, or not worthwhile. That's not the way my friends who are in the military see it. They see it as Clinton allowed the attacks and it was Bush who got OBL. Obama just watched it happen. Anyhow you look at it, more tyrannical dictators have been overthrown and more terrorist leaders killed with less loss of US lives and treasure under Obama's watch than under Bush's. And Obama hasn't even posed under a "Mission Accomplished" banner. Didja notice it was the natives who took over the goverment and not the US? I wonder if that had anything to do with the cost to the US in lives and dollars. Indeed, a highly successful way of achieving US strategic goals with minimal cost to the US. Brilliant. Unlike pissing off almost all of our allies like GWB did.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #96 October 21, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote >I was really hoping Obama would do SOMETHING worthwhile, but he hasn't >and probably won't. Well, looking at it from a military perspective, Bush allowed Osama Bin Laden to attack the US. Obama got him. Hard to claim that's not an improvement, or not worthwhile. That's not the way my friends who are in the military see it. They see it as Clinton allowed the attacks and it was Bush who got OBL. Obama just watched it happen. Anyhow you look at it, more tyrannical dictators have been overthrown and more terrorist leaders killed with less loss of US lives and treasure under Obama's watch than under Bush's. And Obama hasn't even posed under a "Mission Accomplished" banner. Didja notice it was the natives who took over the goverment and not the US? I wonder if that had anything to do with the cost to the US in lives and dollars. Indeed, a highly successful way of achieving US strategic goals with minimal cost to the US. Brilliant. Unlike pissing off almost all of our allies like GWB did. So because GW pissed off a few countries whose opinion doesn't matter anyway, it means BHO is responsible for the people of Libya tossing Ghadaffi Duck out on his dead ass? Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. The only thing the US did in Libya was with NATO. The natives started the whole thing themselves after seeing Iraq and Afghanistan lose their tyrants. With that in mind we could, and should, give GW more credit than Obama. The FACT remains that Obama has done nothing but coast through his first and hopefully only term. Nothing, that is, but waste hundreds of millions of dollars flying around in AF1 as if it were a C152. The idiot has no concept of how much his little day trips cost the US taxpayers. I suppose you also think Hill Clin did nothing wrong with calling for the killing of Ghadaffi? Since when has the USSoS had the authority to publicly call for the killing of a foriegn dignitary?HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #97 October 21, 2011 Well, I appreciate that achieving US strategic goals by diplomatic means and cultivation of allies rather than invasion will piss off the military/industrial complex and the neo-cons, but it cost the USA far less. You have a bad case of sour grapes, just like rushmc.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #98 October 22, 2011 The events in Libya never would have transpired had not the US acted in Iraq and Afghanistan. Sure it is better to achieve results with diplomatic ties. But when this fails, as it did in iraq, then other measures are needed. It would be interesting, prof, to hear just what value you put on freeing a country of a ruthless dictator that attempts genocide on populations of his own people? At what point do we say it just costs too much? $10 billion? $100 billion? $2 trillion? SH was captured fairly quickly after the invasion and was taken alive and stood trial. That's a far more diplomatic solution than Hillary saying "kill him" and the locals then doing just that. From that point of view GW was infinitely more successful than Obama. I'm glad people like you weren't running this country when WWII broke out. After all, Hitler wasn't attacking us.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #99 October 22, 2011 Quote After all, Hitler wasn't attacking us. Godwin - you lose.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #100 October 22, 2011 Quote Quote After all, Hitler wasn't attacking us. Godwin - you lose. Nice attempt to distract the conversation. I will take that as a concession. You lose. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
