quade 4 #51 October 24, 2011 QuoteAnd what would possibly be the spiritual benefit of a bloody easter egg laying rabbit...it's completely ridiculous and has absolutely nothing to do with God committing suicide on a cross. It would quite soundly disconbobulate the entire animal kingdom...Oh bloody shit, fuck, piss, cunt, whore! Of course Easter has zero to do with the Crucifixion. It had everything to do with early Christians attempting to blending their religion with pre-existing Pagan religion and usurping the Pagan holidays with their own. A sort of, if you can't beat them, join them and eventually they'll forget about the original holidays when they've all been converted. This is true of both Christmas and Easter.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #52 October 24, 2011 QuoteQuoteAnd what would possibly be the spiritual benefit of a bloody easter egg laying rabbit...it's completely ridiculous and has absolutely nothing to do with God committing suicide on a cross. It would quite soundly disconbobulate the entire animal kingdom...Oh bloody shit, fuck, piss, cunt, whore! Of course Easter has zero to do with the Crucifixion. It had everything to do with early Christians attempting to blending their religion with pre-existing Pagan religion and usurping the Pagan holidays with their own. A sort of, if you can't beat them, join them and eventually they'll forget about the original holidays when they've all been converted. This is true of both Christmas and Easter. Well, if you want to get technical...the two holidays should actually be reversed.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #53 October 24, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnd what would possibly be the spiritual benefit of a bloody easter egg laying rabbit...it's completely ridiculous and has absolutely nothing to do with God committing suicide on a cross. It would quite soundly disconbobulate the entire animal kingdom...Oh bloody shit, fuck, piss, cunt, whore! Of course Easter has zero to do with the Crucifixion. It had everything to do with early Christians attempting to blending their religion with pre-existing Pagan religion and usurping the Pagan holidays with their own. A sort of, if you can't beat them, join them and eventually they'll forget about the original holidays when they've all been converted. This is true of both Christmas and Easter. Well, if you want to get technical...the two holidays should actually be reversed. I can see it going either way. The pagan solstice marked the return of the days getting longer and was seen as a metaphorical rebirth of the world. Spring, of course, is seen as less metaphorical and more actual in terms of re-birth, but certainly that's what Jesus rising is so that also fits into spring. What I've never understood is where they got the cockamamie Mary and Joseph having to return to Bethlehem part of the story. That makes no sense whatsoever and is not supported at all in Roman records. I can't say for certain it never happened, but no records ever found from that time period support it in any way.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #54 October 24, 2011 There is much you'll never know unfortunately....unless....well, lets not get optimistic here.... ...anyway, there is much more to the story, but the very meaning of the name Christmas is quite contrary to the spirit of it's celebration...it's so obvious, yet hardly anyone recognizes it....believer or atheist alike. Seriously, please answer this simplest riddle in the world.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #55 October 24, 2011 Quote... but the very meaning of the name Christmas is quite contrary to the spirit of it's celebration. No...I'm fairly certain it's pretty well understood by everyone as Christ Mass. Even by heathens such as myself. Be that as it may . . . the early Christian mythology surrounding it was clearly made up c300AD, by some folks that just didn't know the actual history they were attempting to tell. It would be like me attempting to talk about the birth of George Washington but never having access to written historical documents. Certain things are just not going to be all that accurate and I might be tempted to embellish the story to make it sound better than reality like adding in a bit about a cherry tree and never telling a lie.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 473 #56 October 24, 2011 Quote What I've never understood is where they got the cockamamie Mary and Joseph having to return to Bethlehem part of the story. That makes no sense whatsoever and is not supported at all in Roman records. I can't say for certain it never happened, but no records ever found from that time period support it in any way. It was part of an early Holiday Inn advertExperienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #57 October 24, 2011 QuoteQuote... but the very meaning of the name Christmas is quite contrary to the spirit of it's celebration. No...I'm fairly certain it's pretty well understood by everyone as Christ Mass. Ok...you're warm...no, you're hot. I'm pissing in my pants laughing hot....you don't get it....really?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #58 October 24, 2011 QuoteI'm pissing in my pants laughing hot....you don't get it....really? Unless you're making some goofy joke about snow in Bethlehem . . . no . . . I have no clue what the F you're talking about because you aren't being clear in what you're attempting to say.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #59 October 24, 2011 Quote Quote I'm pissing in my pants laughing hot....you don't get it....really? Unless you're making some goofy joke about snow in Bethlehem . . . no . . . I have no clue what the F you're talking about because you aren't being clear in what you're attempting to say. Well no shit sherlock...it's a fucking riddle for Christ's sake.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #60 October 24, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I'm pissing in my pants laughing hot....you don't get it....really? Unless you're making some goofy joke about snow in Bethlehem . . . no . . . I have no clue what the F you're talking about because you aren't being clear in what you're attempting to say. Well no shit sherlock...it's a fucking riddle for Christ's sake. Scroll back . . . you never asked a riddle. You may have thought you did, but you didn't.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #61 October 24, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote I'm pissing in my pants laughing hot....you don't get it....really? Unless you're making some goofy joke about snow in Bethlehem . . . no . . . I have no clue what the F you're talking about because you aren't being clear in what you're attempting to say. Well no shit sherlock...it's a fucking riddle for Christ's sake. Scroll back . . . you never asked a riddle. You may have thought you did, but you didn't. I was giving you a head start...don't expect me to play fair. But seriously, you don't know what it means?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #62 October 24, 2011 QuoteBut seriously, you don't know what it means? You know what the most infuriating thing about trying to hold a conversation with you is? It's that you won't just come out and say whatever point you think you're trying to make. Why? If you have something to say . . . say it. Why waste my time with this nonsensical back and forth game of you attempting to hide behind some sort of "riddle?" FFS . . . SAY whatever the F it is you're going to say! I can't believe I've wasted 20 f'in minutes on this already. Get on with it. I'm tired and and going to go to sleep soon.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 473 #63 October 24, 2011 Quote Quote But seriously, you don't know what it means? You know what the most infuriating thing about trying to hold a conversation with you is? It's that you won't just come out and say whatever point you think you're trying to make. Why? If you have something to say . . . say it. Why waste my time with this nonsensical back and forth game of you attempting to hide behind some sort of "riddle?" FFS . . . SAY whatever the F it is you're going to say! I can't believe I've wasted 20 f'in minutes on this already. Get on with it. I'm tired and and going to go to sleep soon. I'm lost Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #64 October 24, 2011 So is he it appears... Anyway, too bad, for him . . . I'm going to bed.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #65 October 24, 2011 Quote I never heard of him. Certainly, no one except you talks about him anymore. On the other hand, Jesus is well known and talked about to this day. Oh, so that's how it works. Popularity. www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #66 October 24, 2011 QuoteYou know what the most infuriating thing about trying to hold a conversation with you is? It's that you won't just come out and say whatever point you think you're trying to make. Why? Because it's the only fucking reason I enjoy being here anymore... I used to love this place and provided quality posts... This place has become a laughing stock...there is no purpose in wasting time here unless you're here for entertainment. You guys have turned me into primetime USDA choice trollfu... I'm simply loving the fact that a greenie is so infuriated by such meaningless stupidity and that everyone get's to see it. It's a sick type of entertainment and none of you are better than me... LMFAO!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 473 #67 October 24, 2011 So Instead of trolling why don't you answer my original post? How do you justify/rationalise your belief that Jesus is the son of God and that everyone else is wrong? Why is Jesus real and Mohammed not?Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #68 October 24, 2011 QuoteSo Instead of trolling why don't you answer my original post? Because...as I said, it was a grat day of footbal, BBQ's, beers,bonfires and baseball... I didn't feel like wasting the time humoring your stupid question. perhaps God will give me the grace to give a fuck and reply to Marinus/shotgun, because they are the only ones worthy of a response. QuoteWhy is Jesus real and Mohammed not? They are both real... Your problem is that you assume too much and fail to ask the right questions... Personally, your questions aren't even relevant to me, nor do I even understand what the fuck you're talking about... I'ts like one big strawman orgy...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #69 October 24, 2011 It's amazing, isn't it? I once remember this most peaceful red hair beauty... We would sit by the window with a fan in the hot summer day in our underwear with her soft leg drossed over my thigh and her sweaty arm around my neck as if I would never get away....passing a joint in the smokey haze with our buds.... I haven't seen her in almost 20 years, yet there we were tonight as if nothing had ever changed... Tangerine live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5c5870ztSg Sorry I was such an asshole tonight...but you see, I don't have to rationalize anything... I'm alive... How do you rationalize that? Why waste the time...ya know?Tangerine - original studio version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCFDo3XSUsQ&feature=related *Edit* and ya man...being asked to rationalise my life was like a total bummer dude...fuck you! Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #70 October 24, 2011 QuoteI am curious how people (not only Christians) rationalise their beliefs? How can you assume that your version/understanding of God is correct and everyone else is wrong? Specifically how can you look yourself in the mirror and honestly believe in your God, while firmly believing that other religions God's are simply figments of their imagination? I believe in God, I don't assume to understand he who created me. I also believe that there is only one God, therefore to talk about a Christian God or a Jewish God would be blasphemy. As I believe that there is only one God, Christians and Jews and anyone who has a monotheistic faith by my rational is simply worshiping one God in many different ways. To me its not so important how you worship simply that you do. I suppose that if I were to classify myself by Christian denomination I'd be closest to a Methodist as I believe that how you live your life and faith is most important.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 473 #71 October 24, 2011 Quote Quote I am curious how people (not only Christians) rationalise their beliefs? How can you assume that your version/understanding of God is correct and everyone else is wrong? Specifically how can you look yourself in the mirror and honestly believe in your God, while firmly believing that other religions God's are simply figments of their imagination? I believe in God, I don't assume to understand he who created me. I also believe that there is only one God, therefore to talk about a Christian God or a Jewish God would be blasphemy. As I believe that there is only one God, Christians and Jews and anyone who has a monotheistic faith by my rational is simply worshiping one God in many different ways. To me its not so important how you worship simply that you do. I suppose that if I were to classify myself by Christian denomination I'd be closest to a Methodist as I believe that how you live your life and faith is most important. Thanks for the reply. I just wish I had a sharper wit and could come up with something zinging. The humour in the fact that you are a muslim and answered reasonably as opposed to the vast majority of 'other' replies. Well it's just funny.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #72 October 24, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I am curious how people (not only Christians) rationalise their beliefs? How can you assume that your version/understanding of God is correct and everyone else is wrong? Specifically how can you look yourself in the mirror and honestly believe in your God, while firmly believing that other religions God's are simply figments of their imagination? I believe in God, I don't assume to understand he who created me. I also believe that there is only one God, therefore to talk about a Christian God or a Jewish God would be blasphemy. As I believe that there is only one God, Christians and Jews and anyone who has a monotheistic faith by my rational is simply worshiping one God in many different ways. To me its not so important how you worship simply that you do. I suppose that if I were to classify myself by Christian denomination I'd be closest to a Methodist as I believe that how you live your life and faith is most important. Thanks for the reply. I just wish I had a sharper wit and could come up with something zinging. The humour in the fact that you are a muslim and answered reasonably as opposed to the vast majority of 'other' replies. Well it's just funny. That's simply a bunch of bollocks...you could blast him down any which way you'd like...and you would, but you're starting to realize that we don't give a bloody hell what you think about it, so it doesn't fucking matter...*EDIT* ...and yes, all of my responses should be read with received pronuciation! (btw, if you throw the game I'll fu**ing **** you.)Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 473 #73 October 24, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote I am curious how people (not only Christians) rationalise their beliefs? How can you assume that your version/understanding of God is correct and everyone else is wrong? Specifically how can you look yourself in the mirror and honestly believe in your God, while firmly believing that other religions God's are simply figments of their imagination? I believe in God, I don't assume to understand he who created me. I also believe that there is only one God, therefore to talk about a Christian God or a Jewish God would be blasphemy. As I believe that there is only one God, Christians and Jews and anyone who has a monotheistic faith by my rational is simply worshiping one God in many different ways. To me its not so important how you worship simply that you do. I suppose that if I were to classify myself by Christian denomination I'd be closest to a Methodist as I believe that how you live your life and faith is most important. Thanks for the reply. I just wish I had a sharper wit and could come up with something zinging. The humour in the fact that you are a muslim and answered reasonably as opposed to the vast majority of 'other' replies. Well it's just funny. That's simply a bunch of bullshit...you could blast him down any which way you like...and you would, but you're starting to realize that we don't give a bloody hell what you think about it, so it doesn't fcking matter... You think I asked so I could try and pick holes in his and your beliefs? Sorry you are so uptight, but frankly it is something that interests me. Jamile answered with what he believed, so far you've trolled and littered your posts with fuck this/fuck that - sorry but the only person that reflects on is youI think it is pretty clear that I don't believe in God, no-ones views are going to change that. Similarly I have no intention of ever trying to convince someone else that they are wrong either.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #74 October 24, 2011 To be honest I think you realy have a reading comprehension problem and base your experience on bias....quite amusing actualy. (again...in received pronunciation) ...I'm begenning to like this.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlie5 0 #75 October 24, 2011 "rationalise your belief" The question alone is invalid. Faith doesn't require rationalization. That's why it's called faith.The feather butts bounce off ya like raindrops hitting a battle-star when they come in too fast...kinda funny to watch. - airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
