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QuoteEver put any thought into a Ruger? My father has a Mini-30 and I love it. It's a great all-round rifle. But I'm sure there are others with more knowlege than I do...but I love shooting this rifle!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4SVwSGPLOc
I too, am a big fan of Rugers, but I don't know if you guys have ever come across a British Enfield MK1 Jungle Carbine 303. Wound up being one of the best deer rifles I ever owned and can still be picked up for a couple of hundred bucks.
EDIT: Some History - http://www.gundigest.com/gun-collecting-firearm-collecting/gun-collecting-the-british-303-jungle-carbine
Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.
The 99 I fired belonged to a buddy. I said about 22". The bbl seemed kinda short when I let that thing go. If the rifle is collectable in .308, then go for it, sez me. 
I also have several Enfields, including the jungle carbine mentioned by BIGUN. The .303 is a true hitter. There is some talk about a "wandering zero" on a jungle carbine, but I have found mine to be excellent.
jonstark 8
Go to siskguns.com and talk to Charlie about the gun you want. I've been salivating over his rifles for awhile.
jon
jon
I had a 99 in .308 back around '78-'79. First shot accuracy was fine, but following shots tended to drift (to the right, as I remember) as the barrel warmed up. Easy 2" groups if each was from a cold barrel, but 5 shots within a couple minutes would string out to about 5"-6". Just something to be aware of.
HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
Kennedy 0
If you want a shorter and handier gun, Ruger M77 in 44 magnum is a good brush gun. It's effective in a shorter barrel. It has the power to knock down most targets. Good choice of bullets. Easy to cast if you're into that. Plus if you really want a treat, you can get it integrally suppressed.
It won't drive tacks at hundreds of yards, but from what you're saying that's not an issue.
It won't drive tacks at hundreds of yards, but from what you're saying that's not an issue.
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Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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steve1 5
I've always liked the looks and feel of a model 99. When I first started hunting I had a lever action, but I've never been a big fan of them.
One of the first 99's that I saw belonged to a hermit, named Denny O'loflin. A friend and I would spend days, hunting out of Denny's cabin, back in the mountains. We were only about 12 then. We were out hunting alone, for deer and elk. We were learning how to hunt, mostly on our own. Kids were raised differently back then.
Denny had been a paratrooper in WWII. He jumped in on Normandy, and saw a lot of action. As a result of that, Denny was shell shock. He didn't get along with people much, but he seemed to like kids okay. He taught us a thing or two about hunting, and even showed us how to trap beaver.
Most people were scared of Denny. He made a living trapping, working his mining claim, and sometimes working construction. Denny had guns all over his cabin, and a case of dynamite under his bunk. One story said that Denny had shot a guy over a woman. Supposedly he had wounded the guy with a shotgun. Whether or not that story was true or not, I can't say. There were a lot of stories floating around about Denny.
When they made the movie the Longest Day. Denny was one of the guys they wrote to. Every morning, Denny would pin on his jump wings. Denny may have been a little crazy, but he had a good heart.
When we were kids, Denny was our hero. His favorite rifle was a Savage model 99. He carried it where ever he went. We'd follow him all over his mining claim, and anything he said was gosphel to us.
On another hunt, I remember following my Dad around. We'd ridden in on horseback that morning. We ended up following some mountain lion tracks through some steep cliffs, for miles. Dad was packing a Savage, model 99 that day.
We later saw four mountain goat, right next to us, across a frozen creek. It was all I could do not to cut loose with my Winchester 30/30. They stared us down with the wind blowing their long hair.
"Don't shoot," Dad said, " The game warden will get us." So, We watched them climb back up the mountain.
When I pick up a model 99, those are some of the memories that come to mind. I'm going to have to buy one.
One of the first 99's that I saw belonged to a hermit, named Denny O'loflin. A friend and I would spend days, hunting out of Denny's cabin, back in the mountains. We were only about 12 then. We were out hunting alone, for deer and elk. We were learning how to hunt, mostly on our own. Kids were raised differently back then.
Denny had been a paratrooper in WWII. He jumped in on Normandy, and saw a lot of action. As a result of that, Denny was shell shock. He didn't get along with people much, but he seemed to like kids okay. He taught us a thing or two about hunting, and even showed us how to trap beaver.
Most people were scared of Denny. He made a living trapping, working his mining claim, and sometimes working construction. Denny had guns all over his cabin, and a case of dynamite under his bunk. One story said that Denny had shot a guy over a woman. Supposedly he had wounded the guy with a shotgun. Whether or not that story was true or not, I can't say. There were a lot of stories floating around about Denny.
When they made the movie the Longest Day. Denny was one of the guys they wrote to. Every morning, Denny would pin on his jump wings. Denny may have been a little crazy, but he had a good heart.
When we were kids, Denny was our hero. His favorite rifle was a Savage model 99. He carried it where ever he went. We'd follow him all over his mining claim, and anything he said was gosphel to us.
On another hunt, I remember following my Dad around. We'd ridden in on horseback that morning. We ended up following some mountain lion tracks through some steep cliffs, for miles. Dad was packing a Savage, model 99 that day.
We later saw four mountain goat, right next to us, across a frozen creek. It was all I could do not to cut loose with my Winchester 30/30. They stared us down with the wind blowing their long hair.
"Don't shoot," Dad said, " The game warden will get us." So, We watched them climb back up the mountain.
When I pick up a model 99, those are some of the memories that come to mind. I'm going to have to buy one.
JohnRich 4
Great story, Steve1! It shows why we "cling to our guns", because of the emotional attachment that we sometimes have with them.
b1jercat 0
I happen to have the model 99 in the 284 cal. bought it new in 1970, never needed anthing else. blues
jerry
jerry
steve1 5
I got to shopping on Guns International.com. I only found one in 308. That was after looking at three pages of different 99's.
I had to do some serious begging, to get my wifes's blessings, but that gun is on the way. I may have paid to much for it, but it was exactly what I was looking for. It has a 22 inch barrel. It was made in 1954 and is in 95% condition. Somebody had it stashed in a closet for a bunch of years. I'll let you know how it shoots....
I had to do some serious begging, to get my wifes's blessings, but that gun is on the way. I may have paid to much for it, but it was exactly what I was looking for. It has a 22 inch barrel. It was made in 1954 and is in 95% condition. Somebody had it stashed in a closet for a bunch of years. I'll let you know how it shoots....
jclalor 12
Shit, the only gun I kind of know about, my Grandfather gave me his (308). A great gun for Pigs and deer.
steve1 5
My new 99, 308 came in the mail recently. It shoots well. I forgot my glasses, and had a heck of a time seeing the iron sights and the target. I'll be glad to get a scope on it. Everything seems to function well on it.
People warned me that the recoil might be a problem. I figured this is just a 308, it couldn't kick much....but it does. This rifle is very light, which I like, but that does transform into more recoil. A metal but plate doesn't help much either.
To line the iron sights up, you have to press your cheek into the stock, fairly hard. You do feel quite a bit of recoil in your face as a result. I'm putting a scope on it, as soon as the mounts arrive. I ordered a long Leupold base. I hope there is enough room to feed shells into the magazine, with that. I think they will eject okay, because it throws them directly out to the side.
I have to say, that I don't like the trigger. I'm not used to that much pull. I think a guy could adjust that with a file....but I'm going to let a gun smith do it.
On You-Tube there are a couple videos on how to disassemble a 99. This helped a lot. It really did need a good cleaning. I did booger up a couple screws, because I didn't have the proper hollow ground screw drivers. I know better than that.
All in all, I like this gun a lot....
People warned me that the recoil might be a problem. I figured this is just a 308, it couldn't kick much....but it does. This rifle is very light, which I like, but that does transform into more recoil. A metal but plate doesn't help much either.
To line the iron sights up, you have to press your cheek into the stock, fairly hard. You do feel quite a bit of recoil in your face as a result. I'm putting a scope on it, as soon as the mounts arrive. I ordered a long Leupold base. I hope there is enough room to feed shells into the magazine, with that. I think they will eject okay, because it throws them directly out to the side.
I have to say, that I don't like the trigger. I'm not used to that much pull. I think a guy could adjust that with a file....but I'm going to let a gun smith do it.
On You-Tube there are a couple videos on how to disassemble a 99. This helped a lot. It really did need a good cleaning. I did booger up a couple screws, because I didn't have the proper hollow ground screw drivers. I know better than that.
All in all, I like this gun a lot....
mnealtx 0
Congrats!
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Nice!
I bought an old mauser that I will be installing a scope on. Rifle cost: $125 or so, scope cost: $150 on sale (regularly $300ish) drop in aftermarket trigger: I forget how much, less than $100.
So for less than $400 I will have a hard hitting rifle (8mm is almost identical in ballistics to the 30-06, which is a fairly large round) with a great trigger and a nice scope. Should do well for pig and deer, and maybe elk at 250 or less yards.
I have heard great things about the savage rifles, in regards to being able to modify them. Do some reading on building a cheap 1000 yard target rifle, I found a great article that used a savage rifle as the base gun.
If I buy another bolt gun it will probably be 300winmag or bigger, just in case I head out with my buddy to elk hunt. Otherwise, most of my gun funds are being dumped into my new 450 bushmaster AR (still need to buy an upper) and various AK projects.
Does anybody want to buy an FN FAL?? California legal... 
I did some looking. It's really hard to find a Savage Model 99 in 308. There are a lot in 300 savage, that are for sale....and most aren't very cheap. They run anywhere from $600 to $4,000. I hope not to pay more than 6 or 7 hundred.
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