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Oh by the way... I got to read Das Capital and The Communist Manifesto.. compliments of the USAF as part of SERE instructor training.



AETC...the academic paragon of the Defense Dept...*snicker*

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I would imagine.. you are not nearly as welll read.



You would be imagining incorrectly. I have an International Politics degree, along with an MBA and a JD.

I didn't need an MTI telling me to read them. I did so in College, enduring/trying to understand the mindset of an openly Marxist professor, and in doing so I saw how bankrupt Marxism and Socialism in all their permutations truly are...



Well Hello Mr Fancypants

So basically you show disdain for the military.. color me SOOOOOO not surprised.. it seems to be the REAL feeling those of your ilk really have.

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Oh by the way... I got to read Das Capital and The Communist Manifesto.. compliments of the USAF as part of SERE instructor training.



AETC...the academic paragon of the Defense Dept...*snicker*

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I would imagine.. you are not nearly as welll read.



You would be imagining incorrectly. I have an International Politics degree, along with an MBA and a JD.

I didn't need an MTI telling me to read them. I did so in College, enduring/trying to understand the mindset of an openly Marxist professor, and in doing so I saw how bankrupt Marxism and Socialism in all their permutations truly are...



Well Hello Mr Fancypants

So basically you show disdain for the military.. color me SOOOOOO not surprised.. it seems to be the REAL feeling those of your ilk really have.



Disdain? No. I served. I endured/survived the pedantic droning of AETC Zombies who thought that reading from PowerPoint slides made them Demigods.

I was simply sinckering at you listing AETC on your CV, as if being required to read two (bad) books made you some Subject Matter Expert...

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I got to read Das Capital and The Communist Manifesto.. compliments of the USAF as part of SERE instructor training.



Makes sense that one would want to read those volumes for search, evasion, escape, etc. Talk about a world that is escape worthy.


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Oh by the way... I got to read Das Capital and The Communist Manifesto.. compliments of the USAF as part of SERE instructor training.



AETC...the academic paragon of the Defense Dept...*snicker*

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I would imagine.. you are not nearly as welll read.



You would be imagining incorrectly. I have an International Politics degree, along with an MBA and a JD.

I didn't need an MTI telling me to read them. I did so in College, enduring/trying to understand the mindset of an openly Marxist professor, and in doing so I saw how bankrupt Marxism and Socialism in all their permutations truly are...



Well Hello Mr Fancypants

So basically you show disdain for the military.. color me SOOOOOO not surprised.. it seems to be the REAL feeling those of your ilk really have.



Disdain? No. I served. I endured/survived the pedantic droning of AETC Zombies who thought that reading from PowerPoint slides made them Demigods.

I was simply sinckering at you listing AETC on your CV, as if being required to read two (bad) books made you some Subject Matter Expert...



It was required so we could teach good little college boys to not shit themselves if they got captured by the evil commies.

And I was there a LONG time before Powerpoint was even a wet dream in what would become Bills company... in fact at that time.. there was no such thing as a "personal computer"

It was a time when the NVA had quite a few of our college boys in captivity. and some of them were dying because of lack of training in resistance ( the R in SERE that Jerry was missing).. and American servicemen were fighting and dying every day. I spent a 8 years teaching...so I guess your ass umption is off the mark yet again

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No, they have the right to speech and I think that their right to speech should not be chilled. However, I'd suggest to them that perhaps we should all pay some taxes in order to ensure that their desires are attainable.


How do they get out of sales taxes, gasoline taxes, utility taxes and payroll taxes? IS there 47% unemployment now, and none of them ever buy anything?



They don't get out of sales taxes, unless they buy food and resale items. They don't get out of gasoline taxes unless they don't have a car/motorcycle/airplane. They don't get out of payroll taxes unless they are unemployed or working under-the-table.

but they don't pay income taxes.



SO in fact they ARE paying some taxes.
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Oh by the way... I got to read Das Capital and The Communist Manifesto.. compliments of the USAF as part of SERE instructor training.



AETC...the academic paragon of the Defense Dept...*snicker*

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I would imagine.. you are not nearly as welll read.



You would be imagining incorrectly. I have an International Politics degree, along with an MBA and a JD.

I didn't need an MTI telling me to read them. I did so in College, enduring/trying to understand the mindset of an openly Marxist professor, and in doing so I saw how bankrupt Marxism and Socialism in all their permutations truly are...



Well Hello Mr Fancypants

So basically you show disdain for the military.. color me SOOOOOO not surprised.. it seems to be the REAL feeling those of your ilk really have.



Disdain? No. I served. I endured/survived the pedantic droning of AETC Zombies who thought that reading from PowerPoint slides made them Demigods.

I was simply sinckering at you listing AETC on your CV, as if being required to read two (bad) books made you some Subject Matter Expert...



It was required so we could teach good little college boys to not shit themselves if they got captured by the evil commies.

And I was there a LONG time before Powerpoint was even a wet dream in what would become Bills company... in fact at that time.. there was no such thing as a "personal computer"

It was a time when the NVA had quite a few of our college boys in captivity. and some of them were dying because of lack of training in resistance ( the R in SERE that Jerry was missing).. and American servicemen were fighting and dying every day. I spent a 8 years teaching...so I guess your ass umption is off the mark yet again



I'd respond, but This has absolutely fuck-all to do with your knowledge of how modern economics. It's about you reading two bad books whilst being a SERE instructor, which has fuck-all to do with the Original Topic...

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Soon the 53% will become the 47% and the new 53% will vote themselves massive social entitlements expecting the 47% to pay for their socialism. It is bad enough that Greece is a socialist nation of people who want their pie but refuse to pay for it. The USA is actually not all that far behind Greece.

Don't you just love democracy ... except that it is likely still the best thing we have?




I would think that with the policies you and other right wingers here espouse.. you support neo-conservatism/neo-fascism as a far better solution to the worlds problems.



Versus rabid Socialism that rewards sloth and inactivity at the expense of those who work hard and make responsible decisions? I'll happily take my chances in the NeoCon rat race--it pays much better.



Uh huh.. until nothing works but armed revolt by the masses... to "refresh the tree of liberty with blood"... good luck with that.



...and you've clearly read Fight Club one too many times...

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Soon the 53% will become the 47% and the new 53% will vote themselves massive social entitlements expecting the 47% to pay for their socialism. It is bad enough that Greece is a socialist nation of people who want their pie but refuse to pay for it. The USA is actually not all that far behind Greece.

Don't you just love democracy ... except that it is likely still the best thing we have?




I would think that with the policies you and other right wingers here espouse.. you support neo-conservatism/neo-fascism as a far better solution to the worlds problems.


Versus rabid Socialism that rewards sloth and inactivity at the expense of those who work hard and make responsible decisions? I'll happily take my chances in the NeoCon rat race--it pays much better.


Uh huh.. until nothing works but armed revolt by the masses... to "refresh the tree of liberty with blood"... good luck with that.


...and you've clearly read Fight Club one too many times...


Sorry your glasses are smeared with something... since its not so clear.... since I never read it... but you can keep your pet ass umptions:ph34r::ph34r:

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SO in fact they ARE paying some taxes.



Uh - That's what I was saying.



So when you wrote:

"I'd suggest to them that perhaps we should all pay some taxes" (which you have TWICE snipped from your replies)

it was a totally redundant troll because you knew that they already were.
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SO in fact they ARE paying some taxes.



Uh - That's what I was saying.



So when you wrote:

"I'd suggest to them that perhaps we should all pay some taxes" (which you have TWICE snipped from your replies)

it was a totally redundant troll because you knew that they already were.



Yes, John. Which is why I stated it when I was called on it. You know that when I fuck up I wear it. I wore it. I'm still wearing it.

You made your point earlier. Then again. And again yet. Making it again won't make the point any more valid. And I'll wear it again and again.


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SO in fact they ARE paying some taxes.



Uh - That's what I was saying.



So when you wrote:

"I'd suggest to them that perhaps we should all pay some taxes" (which you have TWICE snipped from your replies)

it was a totally redundant troll because you knew that they already were.



Yes, John. Which is why I stated it when I was called on it. You know that when I fuck up I wear it. I wore it. I'm still wearing it.

You made your point earlier. Then again. And again yet. Making it again won't make the point any more valid. And I'll wear it again and again.



Don't sweat it, Jerry - he's got no room to talk with his incessant trolling of sales/gas/etc taxes when the discussion is about income tax.
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>when the constitution is being trashed we all have a duty to speak up

Ah. So you agree that all Americans - not just the top 53% - should speak up?



Yes

At least those that are informed

The uninformed have the right to speak too

They just have to deal with the consequences of their comments
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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If that happens next Nov., I will




Promise?



If it happens were are all fucked anyway, so it will not make any difference



Silly people. With our current system in place (financial elite running a corporatocracy w/politicians in pocket), you are fucked regardless of who is in office. How many more decades of this shit will it take for people to get it?
" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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If that happens next Nov., I will




Promise?



If it happens were are all fucked anyway, so it will not make any difference



Silly people. With our current system in place (financial elite running a corporatocracy w/politicians in pocket), you are fucked regardless of who is in office. How many more decades of this shit will it take for people to get it?



blah blah blah

Gov is our biggest problem

But the gov loving corp haters are too blinded to see anything
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Silly people. With our current system in place (financial elite running a corporatocracy w/politicians in pocket), you are fucked regardless of who is in office. How many more decades of this shit will it take for people to get it?



Well, considering the length of time it has already been going on, I'd say.....tens, if not hundreds, of decades.
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If you're part of the 47%, Shut. The. Fuck. Up.


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The 47% pays no tax--they didn't pay their damned admission price to the debate...

...you don't pay into the system, you don't deserve a voice into how it is operated.



I'm not sure which "debate" you're talking about, but whether it's people carrying around signs in a tent city, people posting photos of themselves holding up printed out letters, pundits going back and forth on TV, or heated arguments on the internet it doesn't really matter who does or doesn't shut the fuck up. Deciding on an "admission price" of $1 or any other arbitrary value is pretty silly.

People vote selfishly and often without a lot of long term thinking involved. The whole point of representative government is to temper that. I'll give you that an enormous group of people with no federal income tax liability garnering a large political sway as to where federal tax dollars get spent is not a great scenario, but I don't think it's something we're teetering on the edge of simply because your number above is close to 50.

As for who does wield that large political sway and what that means in terms of financial responsibility, I'll just say that I think all the congressional appropriations committees need to have their membership reviewed for conflicts of interest, and the interests of the nation as a whole need to stop taking a back seat.

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SO in fact they ARE paying some taxes.



Uh - That's what I was saying.



So when you wrote:

"I'd suggest to them that perhaps we should all pay some taxes" (which you have TWICE snipped from your replies)

it was a totally redundant troll because you knew that they already were.



Yes, John. Which is why I stated it when I was called on it. You know that when I fuck up I wear it. I wore it. I'm still wearing it.

You made your point earlier. Then again. And again yet. Making it again won't make the point any more valid. And I'll wear it again and again.



Don't sweat it, Jerry - he's got no room to talk with his incessant trolling of sales/gas/etc taxes when the discussion is about income tax.



WRONG. Desertattorney (unverified) wrote:
"The 47% pays no tax--they didn't pay their damned admission price to the debate"

Note the distinct absence of the word "income" in his statement.

He was wrong, you are wrong.
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SO in fact they ARE paying some taxes.



Uh - That's what I was saying.



So when you wrote:

"I'd suggest to them that perhaps we should all pay some taxes" (which you have TWICE snipped from your replies)

it was a totally redundant troll because you knew that they already were.



Yes, John. Which is why I stated it when I was called on it. You know that when I fuck up I wear it. I wore it. I'm still wearing it.

You made your point earlier. Then again. And again yet. Making it again won't make the point any more valid. And I'll wear it again and again.



Don't sweat it, Jerry - he's got no room to talk with his incessant trolling of sales/gas/etc taxes when the discussion is about income tax.



WRONG. Desertattorney (unverified) wrote:
"The 47% pays no tax--they didn't pay their damned admission price to the debate"

Note the distinct absence of the word "income" in his statement.

He was wrong, you are wrong.



You troll that out even when it *IS* mentioned.

Nice try.
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SO in fact they ARE paying some taxes.



Uh - That's what I was saying.



So when you wrote:

"I'd suggest to them that perhaps we should all pay some taxes" (which you have TWICE snipped from your replies)

it was a totally redundant troll because you knew that they already were.



Yes, John. Which is why I stated it when I was called on it. You know that when I fuck up I wear it. I wore it. I'm still wearing it.

You made your point earlier. Then again. And again yet. Making it again won't make the point any more valid. And I'll wear it again and again.



Don't sweat it, Jerry - he's got no room to talk with his incessant trolling of sales/gas/etc taxes when the discussion is about income tax.



WRONG. Desertattorney (unverified) wrote:
"The 47% pays no tax--they didn't pay their damned admission price to the debate"

Note the distinct absence of the word "income" in his statement.

He was wrong, you are wrong.



You troll that out even when it *IS* mentioned.

Nice try.



Irrelevant, since it wasn't mentioned at all until YOU brought it up in post #38, this thread.
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SO in fact they ARE paying some taxes.



Uh - That's what I was saying.



So when you wrote:

"I'd suggest to them that perhaps we should all pay some taxes" (which you have TWICE snipped from your replies)

it was a totally redundant troll because you knew that they already were.



Yes, John. Which is why I stated it when I was called on it. You know that when I fuck up I wear it. I wore it. I'm still wearing it.

You made your point earlier. Then again. And again yet. Making it again won't make the point any more valid. And I'll wear it again and again.



Don't sweat it, Jerry - he's got no room to talk with his incessant trolling of sales/gas/etc taxes when the discussion is about income tax.



WRONG. Desertattorney (unverified) wrote:
"The 47% pays no tax--they didn't pay their damned admission price to the debate"

Note the distinct absence of the word "income" in his statement.

He was wrong, you are wrong.



You troll that out even when it *IS* mentioned.

Nice try.



Irrelevant, since it wasn't mentioned.



And VERY relevant to the instances when they WERE mentioned.
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SO in fact they ARE paying some taxes.



Uh - That's what I was saying.



So when you wrote:

"I'd suggest to them that perhaps we should all pay some taxes" (which you have TWICE snipped from your replies)

it was a totally redundant troll because you knew that they already were.



Yes, John. Which is why I stated it when I was called on it. You know that when I fuck up I wear it. I wore it. I'm still wearing it.

You made your point earlier. Then again. And again yet. Making it again won't make the point any more valid. And I'll wear it again and again.



Don't sweat it, Jerry - he's got no room to talk with his incessant trolling of sales/gas/etc taxes when the discussion is about income tax.



WRONG. Desertattorney (unverified) wrote:
"The 47% pays no tax--they didn't pay their damned admission price to the debate"

Note the distinct absence of the word "income" in his statement.

He was wrong, you are wrong.



You troll that out even when it *IS* mentioned.

Nice try.



Irrelevant, since it wasn't mentioned.



And VERY relevant to the instances when they WERE mentioned.



"INCOME" wasn't mentioned at all in this thread until YOU brought it up in post #38.
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