dreamdancer 0 #126 November 10, 2011 QuoteGeoffrey Alpert, a University of South Carolina criminal justice professor who's an expert in police procedures and the use of force, told the Oakland Tribune that the video left him "astonished, amazed and embarrassed." "Unless there's something we don't know, that's one of the most outrageous uses of a firearm that I've ever seen," he said. "That just looks like absolute punishment, which is the worst type of excessive force." All of these acts, on their face, violate OPD's own manual for proper crowd control (PDF). The strict guidelines resulted from a 2003 civil suit against OPD for using wooden bullets and teargas to disperse a nonviolent crowd of citizens protesting the Iraq war. Jim Chanin, the civil rights attorney who won the suit, told CBS news that they restrict the use of chemical weapons until “all other means have failed.” “From what I could see [in videos of the incidents on March 25], they hadn’t even tried marching forward,” he said. California's Crowd Management and Civil Disobedience guidelines (PDF) state, “Only that force which is objectively reasonable may be used to arrest violators and restore order.” http://www.alternet.org/occupywallst/153030/why_is_the_oakland_police_department_hiding_the_truth_about_its_violent_crackdown_on_the_occupy_protests/?page=entirestay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #127 November 10, 2011 QuoteQuoteGeoffrey Alpert, a University of South Carolina criminal justice professor who's an expert in police procedures and the use of force, told the Oakland Tribune that the video left him "astonished, amazed and embarrassed." "Unless there's something we don't know, that's one of the most outrageous uses of a firearm that I've ever seen," he said. "That just looks like absolute punishment, which is the worst type of excessive force." All of these acts, on their face, violate OPD's own manual for proper crowd control (PDF). The strict guidelines resulted from a 2003 civil suit against OPD for using wooden bullets and teargas to disperse a nonviolent crowd of citizens protesting the Iraq war. Jim Chanin, the civil rights attorney who won the suit, told CBS news that they restrict the use of chemical weapons until “all other means have failed.” “From what I could see [in videos of the incidents on March 25], they hadn’t even tried marching forward,” he said. California's Crowd Management and Civil Disobedience guidelines (PDF) state, “Only that force which is objectively reasonable may be used to arrest violators and restore order.” http://www.alternet.org/occupywallst/153030/why_is_the_oakland_police_department_hiding_the_truth_about_its_violent_crackdown_on_the_occupy_protests/?page=entire I have to agree with the people that have stated that they want to see more video of the incident. To counter this, I have also seen a lot of video of Oakland burning and being destroyed by the Occupy group. There is also reports of the group having to set up rape trauma centers for both men and women, the lack of sanitation, and even in the video you have posted, there is graffiti obviously put here by the Occupy group. Yes, they have a right to protest, but they don't have a right to destroy and be a hazard to everyone around them."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #128 November 10, 2011 Quote I have also seen a lot of video of Oakland burning and being destroyed by the Occupy group. There is also reports of the group having to set up rape trauma centers for both men and women, the lack of sanitation, and even in the video you have posted, there is graffiti obviously put here by the Occupy group. Yes, they have a right to protest, but they don't have a right to destroy and be a hazard to everyone around them. be a bloody douchebag or any other vaganitorial waste receptacle... FIFY...sorry, couldn't help myself.btw, I don't necessarily hold an opinion, for or against any type of protest...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #129 November 10, 2011 btw, I don't necessarily hold an opinion, for or against any type of protest... Absolutely! And as graduates of the commondreams.org make yourself look stupid and ignorant class, they have proven themselves to be very good students"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
