dreamdancer 0 #176 November 17, 2011 real people... Quote"I paid taxes and took care of my responsibility, and I'm struggling," said participant, Leah Lackner, 27, who had taken the day off work as a mental health counselor to join the protest. Her sign read: "I played by the rules." 57-year-old bond trader Gene Williams joked that he was “one of the bad guys” and said supportively, “The fact of the matter is, there is a schism between the rich and the poor and it's getting wider." Participant and small business owner Jonathan Smucker confronted a Wall Street financial firm executive who held a sign that said 'get a job': "Ten percent of Americans are looking for work, most Americans are struggling, and you stand smugly in your suit and say to 'get a job'. You're insulting just about everyone in your country," Smucker said. At least 200 people have been arrested so far for peaceful assembly and nonviolent civil disobedience, including retired Philadelphia Police Captain Ray Lewis. "All the cops are just workers for the one percent, and they don't even realize they're being exploited," Mr. Lewis said. "As soon as I'm let out of jail, I'll be right back here and they'll have to arrest me again." Today marks two months since the start of Occupy Wall Street at Liberty Square. This movement has taken inspiration from global movements for social justice and democracy, including the revolutions in Egypt and Tunisia. http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2011/11/17-6stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #177 November 17, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Rev. Rich Lang, pastor of the University Temple United Methodist Church in Seattle was pepper sprayed in Tuesday’s march. He joined the movement as a pastoral counselor a few weeks ago after the Occupy Seattle moved its encampment to Seattle Central Community College from Westlake Park. Lang said he broke up a series of altercations between protesters and police before he was pepper sprayed in the face by six officers. “Last night was interesting,” Lang said Wednesday. “The Occupy movement took care of me…rinsed my eyes out. Pepper spray feels like a severe burn. In your eyes…it’s just misery.” Lang wrote a letter to explain what happened and to urge his fellow clergy members to get involved in the movement. “I walked between the lines, I was alone, I was in full clergy dress, everyone knew who I was and what I was…six officers turned their spray on me thoroughly soaking my alb and then one officer hit me full throttle in the face,” he wrote. “My question to my clergy colleagues is this: Where are you?” http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/11/16-6 I saw the video They are lucky that is all they got Embrace the fascism Marc..oh... you do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #178 November 17, 2011 This "movement" as you like to refer to it as, is closer to a bowel than anything else"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #179 November 17, 2011 Quote This movement has taken inspiration from global movements for social justice and democracy, including the revolutions in Egypt Let this be a warning to any female reporters to stay away, lest you find yourself being exposed to social justice. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #180 November 17, 2011 "peaceful assembly and nonviolent civil disobedience" BULL SHIT. I saw them throwing batteries, punches, and garbage at cops. That IS violent. Trespassing is ILLEGAL. These morons don't even know the meanings behind WORDS!!!!!! Well, in the long run, they will ruin their own records to the point they won't be hireable. Of course this won't be their fault. Seems we DO have American citizens capable of replacing our illegal migrant worker force. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elite_Marksman 0 #181 November 17, 2011 Quote "peaceful assembly and nonviolent civil disobedience" BULL SHIT. I saw them throwing batteries, punches, and garbage at cops. That IS violent. Trespassing is ILLEGAL. These morons don't even know the meanings behind WORDS!!!!!! Well, in the long run, they will ruin their own records to the point they won't be hireable. Of course this won't be their fault. Seems we DO have American citizens capable of replacing our illegal migrant worker force. You think these people are going to clean toilets or be a farm hand? Surely you jest. There are 67 pages of job listings at 15 listings per page for "student - high school, student - undergrad, and entry level" on Monster.com in NYC alone. There ARE jobs out there. I know this because when I was laid off from my last job I was hired at my new job about 4 weeks later. Now I just wish that NJ would change their stupid laws, apparently being a full time student makes me ineligible for unemployment even though I worked an average of 35 hours per week... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #182 November 17, 2011 QuoteRT’s New York crew has witnessed NYPD using LRADs, or sound cannons on Occupy Wall Street protesters. Eyewitnesses at the site have tweeted police fired as protesters sang the US national anthem. http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/11/17-6stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #183 November 17, 2011 QuoteTrespassing is ILLEGAL. Which would be a salient point in your argument IF they had been trespassing -- which they hadn't. YOu might have a point about other parts of your arguments, but trespassing isn't one of them.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #184 November 17, 2011 'news' from the 1% - the criminal murdoch family... QuoteRupert Murdoch’s New York Post claimed: “Lunatics had taken over the asylum, as if the right to use a park as a public outhouse was in the Constitution,” and called the Occupiers “silver-spoon sickos.” The editorial page credited the crowd at Zucotti Park with being made up of “criminals, vagrants and other loons.” http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/11/17-8stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #185 November 18, 2011 Quote 'news' from the 1% - the criminal murdoch family... Quote Rupert Murdoch’s New York Post claimed: “Lunatics had taken over the asylum, as if the right to use a park as a public outhouse was in the Constitution,” and called the Occupiers “silver-spoon sickos.” The editorial page credited the crowd at Zucotti Park with being made up of “criminals, vagrants and other loons.” http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/11/17-8 What is the lowest yearly income of those in the 1%? Oh I bet you are so fucking proud Quote “For them it’s horrible. They’re afraid of all the crowds. We’re not even able to get through. They’re just, he’s … very afraid now,” a mother added. One protester followed a father and his little daughter all the way down the block. As the school day ended just after 3 p.m. children trickled out of Leman Manhattan Prep on Broad Street. Smith heard a 4-year-old boy telling his mom he was scared. He told Smith it looked like a parade. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/17/ows-protesters-chant-follow-those-kids-as-small-children-try-to-go-to-school-on-wall-street/ Cheer em on daddy"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #186 November 18, 2011 Obama is filthy rich is he the 1%? Was Steve jobs the 1% what exactly is a 1%er? There are grandmothers than ran successful bake shops that probably have 350k in the bank is sweet hard working granny the 1%? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #187 November 18, 2011 one two three These are but a few I snagged quickly...but am I missing something? I've read other stories, from multiple sources, of trespassing arrests. No? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #188 November 18, 2011 QuoteEventually, the Harlem OWSers, representing a particularly wide mix of ages and backgrounds, went down to the platform in two groups -- one to the front of the train and one to the back. In the cars, mic-checked stories were told with the introduction "Hi! We're from Occupy Wall Street. You may have heard of us. We're not here to shut down the subways! That was a rumor. Let us tell you what this movement means to us." Then the storytelling began again, including a young man who spoke of having a master's degree but no hope of health insurance in the near future and a teacher who spoke of having no hope of retirement. In between the stories, and chanting and singing continued. In order to reach the most commuters and annoy the least, at station stops the groups ran from car to car yelling "we are the 99%"--and met a new captive audience in the next car. The response? Some bursts of applause, some eye-rolls and complaints, but mostly cautious listening. Medics, socialists, students and a young mother were among those who got on at 125th. Half an hour later after the train making every local stop they disembarked at Chambers. The crowd reconvened, cheering and chanting, to march on to Foley, picking up others on the streets downtown. http://www.alternet.org/occupywallst/153118/ows_shows_fight_is_far_from_over%3A_explosive_actions_on_2_month_anniversary_of_movement/?page=entirestay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #189 November 18, 2011 The NY court has ruled that place, time and manner restrictions are allowable. The movants have not demonstrated that they have a First Amendment right to remain in Zuccotti Park, along with their tents, structures, generators, and other installations to the exclusion ofthe owner's reasonable rights and duties to maintain Zuccotti Park, orto the rights to public access of others who might wish to use the space safely. Neither have the applicants shown a right to a temporary restraining order that would restrict the City's enforcement of law so as to promote public health and safety.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #190 November 18, 2011 abandoned - and now in use by the 99%... QuoteOccupy London protesters have taken over an abandoned office block near Liverpool Street station in central London belonging to investment bank UBS in an escalation of their protests against the banking sector and the government's response to the financial crisis. Yesterday the Corporation of London gave the protesters until 6pm to leave their camp at St Paul's Cathedral. The deadline came and went without them moving and high court proceedings are expected to be brought today, although they may take months to conclude. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/nov/18/occupy-london-takes-over-empty-ubs-bank-livestay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #191 November 18, 2011 the voice of experience... QuoteMy support for a militaristic solution caused all hell to break loose. Rocks, bottles and newspaper racks went flying. Windows were smashed, stores were looted, fires lighted; and more gas filled the streets, with some cops clearly overreacting, escalating and prolonging the conflict. The “Battle in Seattle,” as the WTO protests and their aftermath came to be known, was a huge setback—for the protesters, my cops, the community. More than a decade later, the police response to the Occupy movement, most disturbingly visible in Oakland—where scenes resembled a war zone and where a marine remains in serious condition from a police projectile—brings into sharp relief the acute and chronic problems of American law enforcement. Seattle might have served as a cautionary tale, but instead, US police forces have become increasingly militarized, and it’s showing in cities everywhere: the NYPD “white shirt” coating innocent people with pepper spray, the arrests of two student journalists at Occupy Atlanta, the declaration of public property as off-limits and the arrests of protesters for “trespassing.” http://www.alternet.org/occupywallst/153111/police_chief_who_oversaw_1999_wto_crackdown_says_paramilitary_policing_is_a_disaster/stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #192 November 18, 2011 Question: whu are you busy using corporate resources to communicate revolution? Why aren't you out there getting arrested like the true revolutionaries? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #193 November 18, 2011 Quote Why aren't you out there getting arrested like the true revolutionaries? Is that really the path you want to chase the ambulance down? quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #194 November 18, 2011 QuoteQuestion: whu are you busy using corporate resources to communicate revolution? Why aren't you out there getting arrested like the true revolutionaries? Because it's easier and safer to be an armchair revolutionary on your large corporation built computer using large corporation built internet service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #195 November 18, 2011 Quote Quote Why aren't you out there getting arrested like the true revolutionaries? Is that really the path you want to chase the ambulance down? HEY now.. where is your one warning from Bill for that one Paul..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #196 November 18, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Why aren't you out there getting arrested like the true revolutionaries? Is that really the path you want to chase the ambulance down? HEY now.. where is your one warning from Bill for that one Paul..... Compliments are not banned. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #197 November 18, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Why aren't you out there getting arrested like the true revolutionaries? Is that really the path you want to chase the ambulance down? HEY now.. where is your one warning from Bill for that one Paul..... Compliments are not banned. You are exceptional Jerry.. but your fellow counsilor seems to have been offended mightily.... then again.. that seems to happen to him quite a bit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #198 November 19, 2011 QuoteWithout any provocation whatsoever, other than the bodies of these students sitting where they were on the ground, with their arms linked, police pepper-sprayed students. Students remained on the ground, now writhing in pain, with their arms linked. What happened next? Police used batons to try to push the students apart. Those they could separate, they arrested, kneeling on their bodies and pushing their heads into the ground. Those they could not separate, they pepper-sprayed directly in the face, holding these students as they did so. When students covered their eyes with their clothing, police forced open their mouths and pepper-sprayed down their throats. Several of these students were hospitalized. Others are seriously injured. One of them, forty-five minutes after being pepper-sprayed down his throat, was still coughing up blood. This is what happened. You are responsible for it. http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/11/19stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
verbil 0 #199 November 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteWithout any provocation whatsoever, other than the bodies of these students sitting where they were on the ground, with their arms linked, police pepper-sprayed students. Students remained on the ground, now writhing in pain, with their arms linked. What happened next? Police used batons to try to push the students apart. Those they could separate, they arrested, kneeling on their bodies and pushing their heads into the ground. Those they could not separate, they pepper-sprayed directly in the face, holding these students as they did so. When students covered their eyes with their clothing, police forced open their mouths and pepper-sprayed down their throats. Several of these students were hospitalized. Others are seriously injured. One of them, forty-five minutes after being pepper-sprayed down his throat, was still coughing up blood. This is what happened. You are responsible for it. http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/11/19 Why do you accept commondreams as Gospel truth, while dismissing Fox or other news sites? You seem to stop looking for data once you have found a single site that fits your agenda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #200 November 19, 2011 hint - watch the video... (the video the criminal murdoch family, part of the 1%, and owner of fox refuse to show - why is that)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
