Southern_Man 0 #301 February 10, 2012 QuoteI'll look if I can find an English source on the DEA thing. Among other things they did missions on Dutch soil without permission of the government, and used controlled shipments to bust dealers which is illegal IIRIC. Would you like to now it if Dutch police officers were meddling in American law enforcement? Extraterratoriality and/or universal jurisdiction are really perniscious and evil doctrines that cause all sorts of harm and mischief. Unfortunately the U.S. seems to be extending these things all the time. All in the name of security."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #302 February 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteSay bye bye to tranny spy boy. Bradley Manning going down hard Too damned bad for the little traitor! It's the old story... If, you're gonna dance, ya' gotta pay the fiddler! Chuck But he's been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize! He must be a jolly good fellow. You gotta be joking!? I hadn't heard that one. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #303 February 10, 2012 QuoteWell, Gravitymastr beat me to it but I am thinking along the same lines that he is. That's your good right. Personally I think it's extremely disrespectful to let your officials break the laws of a country that's supposed to be your friend. And to ad insult to injury, the American approach on narcotics can only be described as a giant failure, so I don't think American cowboys meddling in the Dutch approach which is moderately successful or at least a lot better than the American approach, is beneficial to us. Furthermore: about 0,08% of our population is in prison, and since this number is dropping we're closing prisons ATM. You might want to look at American statistics, and it becomes pretty clear that the very idea that the US can help us with combating crime is laughable. We're running out of criminals as we speak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #304 February 10, 2012 QuoteYou gotta be joking!? I hadn't heard that one. You know even terrorists freedom fighters have won the Nobel Peace prize right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #305 February 10, 2012 QuotePersonally I think it's extremely disrespectful to let your officials break the laws of a country that's supposed to be your friend. I understand your position. But we Yanks have enough worries about our officials breaking the laws in our OWN country to have much concern for others. It’s kinda like me worrying about the lack of sprinklers in my neighbor’s house while my house is smoldering. It doesn’t mean it’s not an issue, but there are other concerns we have. Also note – friends are always getting into each other’s business. It’s what friends do. Friends spy on each other. Friends insult each other. Friends fuck each others’ significant others. It’s what friends are for. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #306 February 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou gotta be joking!? I hadn't heard that one. You know even terrorists freedom fighters have won the Nobel Peace prize right? Manning is neither of those though. Why do folks keep stepping past why he is in a Military Court Marshall? He broke the UCMJ. Wiki-links just exposed him and he is being punished for it. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #307 February 10, 2012 Every country has dirty little secrets. I personally have our DLS out in the open too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #308 February 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteWell, Gravitymastr beat me to it but I am thinking along the same lines that he is. That's your good right. Personally I think it's extremely disrespectful to let your officials break the laws of a country that's supposed to be your friend. And to ad insult to injury, the American approach on narcotics can only be described as a giant failure, so I don't think American cowboys meddling in the Dutch approach which is moderately successful or at least a lot better than the American approach, is beneficial to us. Furthermore: about 0,08% of our population is in prison, and since this number is dropping we're closing prisons ATM. You might want to look at American statistics, and it becomes pretty clear that the very idea that the US can help us with combating crime is laughable. We're running out of criminals as we speak. I haven't seen proof on your part that our law enforcement people are in your country 'illegally'. So far, it's just been hear-say. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #309 February 10, 2012 QuoteWhy do folks keep stepping past why he is in a Military Court Marshall? I'm not stepping past that. I understand why he can be punished under US military law, and frankly I don't give a shit about what happens to him. However, what he revealed is very interesting for the people concerned (which is, unfortunately for you, about every non-American in existence including me, and a lot of Americans too) and therefore billions of people are actually happy he revealed it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #310 February 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou gotta be joking!? I hadn't heard that one. You know even terrorists freedom fighters have won the Nobel Peace prize right? You call Manning a 'freedom Fighter'? The guy is a traitor who broke a trust. If anything, he's a snivelling little coward. That's being polite. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #311 February 10, 2012 QuoteYou call Manning a 'freedom Fighter'? The guy is a traitor who broke a trust. If anything, he's a snivelling little coward. That's being polite. I was referring to Arafat, who also won the Nobel Peace Prize. The "terrorist freedom fighter" thingy was an attempt at sarcasm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #312 February 10, 2012 QuoteI haven't seen proof on your part that our law enforcement people are in your country 'illegally'. So far, it's just been hear-say. You've seen the vid I posted, right? Their presence in our county is legal, the thing they do are illegal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoogeyMan 0 #313 February 10, 2012 Quote Quote Quote You gotta be joking!? I hadn't heard that one. You know even terrorists freedom fighters have won the Nobel Peace prize right? You call Manning a 'freedom Fighter'? The guy is a traitor who broke a trust. If anything, he's a snivelling little coward. That's being polite. Chuck Yeah..... We all know from history what a great military power the Netherlands are. God forbid that a national security breech should occur there. We'd all be in the soup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #314 February 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou call Manning a 'freedom Fighter'? The guy is a traitor who broke a trust. If anything, he's a snivelling little coward. That's being polite. I was referring to Arafat, who also won the Nobel Peace Prize. The "terrorist freedom fighter" thingy was an attempt at sarcasm O.K. that one got by me. I thought we were discussing Manning. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #315 February 10, 2012 Don't assume. My post had a line directed to your "freedom fighter" line, the rest just to the thread. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #316 February 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteI haven't seen proof on your part that our law enforcement people are in your country 'illegally'. So far, it's just been hear-say. You've seen the vid I posted, right? Their presence in our county is legal, the thing they do are illegal. If, what they are doing is illegal, why doesn't your govt. do something about it? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #317 February 10, 2012 QuoteI understand your position. But we Yanks have enough worries about our officials breaking the laws in our OWN country to have much concern for others. It’s kinda like me worrying about the lack of sprinklers in my neighbor’s house while my house is smoldering. It's more like having your pets shitting on my lawn and only worrying about the shit on your lawn. You're responsible for it, so don't come up with excuses if someone holds you responsible. QuoteIt doesn’t mean it’s not an issue, but there are other concerns we have. Actually I don't think it is an issue for you, because you simply don't care. QuoteAlso note – friends are always getting into each other’s business. It’s what friends do. Friends spy on each other. Friends insult each other. Friends fuck each others’ significant others. It’s what friends are for. Nope Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #318 February 10, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote You gotta be joking!? I hadn't heard that one. You know even terrorists freedom fighters have won the Nobel Peace prize right? You call Manning a 'freedom Fighter'? The guy is a traitor who broke a trust. If anything, he's a snivelling little coward. That's being polite. Chuck Yeah..... We all know from history what a great military power the Netherlands are. God forbid that a national security breech should occur there. We'd all be in the soup. On the other hand, don't they have some really good hockey players? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoogeyMan 0 #319 February 10, 2012 Could be...... Freakin' Russians are all over Europe since the collapse of the USSR. But military treaties rarely involve hockey, as a general rule. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #320 February 10, 2012 Well it wasn't obvious. You were surprised about a traitor being nominated, and I just reminded you that the Prize is awarded to people who're probably involved in blowing up school buses. The Nobel PP is BS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #321 February 10, 2012 Don't be surprised to get a reply if you direct a post at me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #322 February 10, 2012 QuoteIf, what they are doing is illegal, why doesn't your govt. do something about it? Probably because the US uses underhanded methods to keep us in line. After all, you invade countries for no reason at all, so why not bullying small countries into compliance whenever you feel like imposing your incompetence upon others? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #323 February 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteIf, what they are doing is illegal, why doesn't your govt. do something about it? Probably because the US uses underhanded methods to keep us in line. After all, you invade countries for no reason at all, so why not bullying small countries into compliance whenever you feel like imposing your incompetence upon others? So your entire country is just a hapless victim? You would do well living in the U.S. We have a huge number of victims here, too. In fact, maybe the U.S. should just annex you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoogeyMan 0 #324 February 10, 2012 Quote Quote Quote If, what they are doing is illegal, why doesn't your govt. do something about it? Probably because the US uses underhanded methods to keep us in line. After all, you invade countries for no reason at all, so why not bullying small countries into compliance whenever you feel like imposing your incompetence upon others? So your entire country is just a hapless victim? You would do well living in the U.S. We have a huge number of victims here, too. In fact, maybe the U.S. should just annex you. Whoa, big fella....... Annex a country that has nothing to offer? I mean, how much cheese and tulips can one person digest? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #325 February 10, 2012 QuoteWhoa, big fella....... Annex a country that has nothing to offer? I mean, how much cheese and tulips can one person digest? I don't think tulips have enough fat in them to be of any use to the big boned Americans, but our cheese would be a real help in keeping the weight of the average American above 300 pounds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
