Tennessee Anti-Bullying Law Change Could Allow Students To Speak Out Against Gays For Religious Reasons

[JohnnyMarko 1]

"Tennessee Anti-Bullying Law Change Could Allow Students To Speak Out Against Gays For Religious Reasons"

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[mnealtx 0]

From the actual bill:

"This bill specifies that such task forces, programs, and other initiatives may not include materials or training that explicitly or implicitly promote a political agenda, make the characteristics of the victim the focus rather than the conduct of the person engaged in harassment, intimidation, or bullying, or teach or suggest that certain beliefs or viewpoints are discriminatory when an act or practice based on such belief or viewpoint is not a discriminatory practice under present human rights law. "

Well, that certainly puts it in a whole different light than the Huff'n'Puff piece....quelle surprise.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[GeorgiaDon 379]

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From the actual bill:

"This bill specifies that such task forces, programs, and other initiatives may not include materials or training that explicitly or implicitly promote a political agenda, make the characteristics of the victim the focus rather than the conduct of the person engaged in harassment, intimidation, or bullying, or teach or suggest that certain beliefs or viewpoints are discriminatory when an act or practice based on such belief or viewpoint is not a discriminatory practice under present human rights law. "

Well, that certainly puts it in a whole different light than the Huff'n'Puff piece....quelle surprise.

Not really. There is currently no provision in Tennessee law prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, so discriminating against gay people on the basis of their orientation is not a discriminatory practice under current Tennessee human right law. The law states: "This bill specifies that such task forces, programs, and other initiatives may not include materials or training that ... teach or suggest that certain beliefs or viewpoints are discriminatory when an act or practice based on such belief or viewpoint is not a discriminatory practice under present human rights law." The plain language of the bill states that anti-bullying initiatives cannot address anti-gay bullying based on religious beliefs, as anti-gay discrimination is not in itself illegal under Tennessee law.

Suspicion about the real motives of the law probably are stoked by the spate of anti-gay laws passed by the Tennessee legislature recently. For example, the Nashville city council passed a municipal ordinance stating that companies doing business with the city had to abide by a non-discrimination policy that included discrimination against gay or transgendered people. The legislature responded with a bill (Selective Access to Discrimination Act) barring municipalities from passing non-discrimination policies that are more stringent than the protection afforded by state law. The catch is, again, that state law provides no protection against discrimination based on sexual orientation. It turns out that law was written by the Family Action Council of Tennessee (FACT), an ultra-conservative lobbying group with close ties to the Southern Baptist Convention. Sponsors of the bill claim it is intended to keep businesses from dealing with a multitude of different municipal laws (and it would in fact do that), but emails between FACT and state legislators suggest the real reason for the act is to block municipalities from outlawing anti-gay discrimination.

Another recent Tennessee law bans teachers from discussing homosexuality, or from using non-traditional families in class exercises. Seems to be a pattern developing.

Don

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[JerryBaumchen 1,445]

Hi Johnny,

It's Tennessee, you expect something different:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopes_Trial

JerryBaumchen

[winsor 236]

Another recent Tennessee law bans teachers from discussing homosexuality, or from using non-traditional families in class exercises. Seems to be a pattern developing.

Don

[Marinus 0]

As long as it's also OK for students to give their religious White Supremacist views on black people, I don't really see a problem. As long as one doesn't use violence against blacks of course. And that's of course the case because Family Value people would never single out gays for bullying

[mnealtx 0]

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As long as it's also OK for students to give their religious White Supremacist views on black people, I don't really see a problem. As long as one doesn't use violence against blacks of course. And that's of course the case because Family Value people would never single out gays for bullying

And, of course, people here on this website would never EVER single out the religous for bullying.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Garthok 0]

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As long as it's also OK for students to give their religious White Supremacist views on black people, I don't really see a problem. As long as one doesn't use violence against blacks of course. And that's of course the case because Family Value people would never single out gays for bullying

And, of course, people here on this website would never EVER single out the religous for bullying.

Gotta be rough, being 83% of the population of the US (Those who claim religious Belief) or 76% (Those who profess to be Christian)... Poor persecuted supermajorities...

[mnealtx 0]

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As long as it's also OK for students to give their religious White Supremacist views on black people, I don't really see a problem. As long as one doesn't use violence against blacks of course. And that's of course the case because Family Value people would never single out gays for bullying

And, of course, people here on this website would never EVER single out the religous for bullying.

Gotta be rough, being 83% of the population of the US (Those who claim religious Belief) or 76% (Those who profess to be Christian)... Poor persecuted supermajorities...

So, an identifying characteric is more important than the fact that the person is being bullied in the first place? Is that what you're claiming?

Looks like the change in the law would protect people from being bullied by folks with your viewpoint.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Marinus 0]

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But of course Christians usually already feel persecuted when they aren't allowed to persecute others.

[mnealtx 0]

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But of course Christians usually already feel persecuted when they aren't allowed to persecute others.

Sounds like another one of your blanket statements that you'll shortly have to backtrack from.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Marinus 0]

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Sounds like another one of your blanket statements that you'll shortly have to backtrack from.

Being Christian usually comes with a fetish for persecution. And If the Christian isn't persecuted for real, there's a good change the Christian will make up persecutions to satisfy his/her desire.


Christianity in it's pure form is the religion of whiny bitches, live with it!

[Coreece 190]

watcha drinkin' tonight skipper?

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[mnealtx 0]

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Sounds like another one of your blanket statements that you'll shortly have to backtrack from.

Being Christian usually comes with a fetish for persecution. And If the Christian isn't persecuted for real, there's a good change the Christian will make up persecutions to satisfy his/her desire.


Christianity in it's pure form is the religion of whiny bitches, live with it!

Thanks for proving my point.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Marinus 0]

herbal tea, dear, it always makes me grumpy.

But Christians tend to whine a lot. Especially when they're the majority somewhere.

[jclalor 12]

And, of course, people here on this website would never EVER single out the religous for bullying.

[dannydan 5]

i'm a Christian. But i'm most certainly not a whiney bitch. Except for people without common sense, who've allowed themselves to be dumbed down by government intrusion or political correctness because some feelings got hurt.. I don't go to a church, i'm not part of any sect re: Babtist, presbetaryan, Methodist etc etc.. I rarely open the bible. I'm a Christian because i believe that there is a creator God, he gave us earth and the sun. The garden. sometime later Jesus. And yet later on, Israel. And yet later on the Mayflower etc etc. Homosexuality will take care of itself like it did back in Sodom and Gamorrah. Bullying at any level of society will also take care of itself. To me Jesus told the people what he had to say and moved on. He didn't bash you with the bible, he didn't scream at the freaks across the street. He just did his thing and left ya alone. I believe that the 1900s ind. rev. has hindered society more than it has helped IF we look at the BIG PICTURE of life. Better to believe than not IMHO!

[Coreece 190]

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I don't go to a church, i'm not part of any sect re: Babtist, presbetaryan, Methodist etc etc..

Me neither and it hurts...I want to go but the church has just gone mad...you are one lucky SOB today if you've found a good church that doesn't exploit you...

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I rarely open the bible.

Ya...most don't, but we should. It's this lax effort given toward scripture that has caused so much confusion...

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He didn't bash you with the bible, he didn't scream at the freaks across the street. He just did his thing and left ya alone.

Well he did bash the religious leaders of the day...but he didn't bash the people.

When I accepted his message, I was under no threat, I was never bashed...never forced. People come to christ on there own.

What I do here is fight athiest who will probably never believe. I counter their influence. I am not here to save them...I have wiped their dust off my feet long ago.

I don't care if people say, "I'm not gonna be a christian because corey is too hardcore...." I'm here to attemp to give scripture more clarity and cast doubt on the atheist bullshit they past as fact and truth.

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Better to believe than not IMHO!

If that is the only reason one believes then I think God has no use for such base believers...cowards IMHO...Faithless!

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[Marinus 0]

So in other words, you don't know what your religion is all about, and still you think that homers should burn to death in a big conflagration?

[Coreece 190]

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you think that homers should burn to death in a big conflagration?

No, that's what you think and would have him believe...

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[billvon 3,078]

>Homosexuality will take care of itself like it did back in Sodom and Gamorrah.

God killed everyone in the kingdoms of Sodom and Gomorrah (per the Old Testament.)

>Bullying at any level of society will also take care of itself.

Let's hope that God doesn't "take care" of the problem the same way.

[Marinus 0]

Not really: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't obliterated because of homosexuality, but it is a common misconception. The nature of the sins of the Gommorans and Sodomites is never specified in the Bible, and by the time the males of Sodom wanted to gang rape the (male like) angels at Lot's house, the fate of the cities was already sealed.

In fact the angels were there to warn (evacuate?) Lot, because God already decided to raze the cities. But since he seems to think S. & G. (and I think 2 or 3 other cities too) were destroyed because of the Gays, and he seems to think it will be resolved in the same way eventually in the future, my question isn't strange.

[matthewcline 0]

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>Homosexuality will take care of itself like it did back in Sodom and Gamorrah.

God killed everyone in the kingdoms of Sodom and Gomorrah (per the Old Testament.)

>Bullying at any level of society will also take care of itself.

Let's hope that God doesn't "take care" of the problem the same way.

He just may, maybe the Mayan Calendar predicts this?

Matt

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