Ponder, perhaps CHEW on this!

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>and we still got democratic fuck nugget politicians who use the rich against the poor
>tactic to get votes

And republican assholes who play the race card to garner votes. Nothing much changes.

Republicans play the race card???

You are reaching here my friend

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>what is wrong with having everybody share in the workload?

Nothing. What's wrong with having the rich share in the workload as well?

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they do they pay 90% of the bill already. we have 10% paying 90%. Time to shift some of the burden to the bottom 30% of the people.

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>and we still got democratic fuck nugget politicians who use the rich against the poor
>tactic to get votes

And republican assholes who play the race card to garner votes. Nothing much changes.

Republicans play the race card???

You are reaching here my friend

he has to reach because he has nothing else.

[billvon 2,997]

>they do they pay 90% of the bill already.

And yet another example of why we will never get anywhere. You demand that everyone compromise their politics for the good of the many, as long as "everyone" does not include you. Congratulations; you've mastered the politician's way of thinking.

[rushmc 23]

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>they do they pay 90% of the bill already.

And yet another example of why we will never get anywhere. You demand that everyone compromise their politics for the good of the many, as long as "everyone" does not include you. Congratulations; you've mastered the politician's way of thinking.

No, you are closing your eyes to the truth

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>they do they pay 90% of the bill already.

And yet another example of why we will never get anywhere. You demand that everyone compromise their politics for the good of the many, as long as "everyone" does not include you. Congratulations; you've mastered the politician's way of thinking.

no you don't seem to understand how good resposible people are, I don't mind paying some taxes, just don't like paying taxes when some many don't. I don't feel me, or anyone has the right to not pay for things. If everyone pulled their wieght the job would be much easier on everyone.

The problem is people like you that feel some do not have to contribute.

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they do they pay 90% of the bill already. we have 10% paying 90%. Time to shift some of the burden to the bottom 30% of the people.

If I need a million dollars, am I going to rob the corner store or the casino?

[rushmc 23]

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they do they pay 90% of the bill already. we have 10% paying 90%. Time to shift some of the burden to the bottom 30% of the people.

If I need a million dollars, am I going to rob the corner store or the casino?

No

Just start a solar company and then ask the Obama admin for some money

After you get the money, layoff the employess and then pay you and a couple other execs million dollar bonus's (out or the tax dollars you get)

You can end up with a few million this way


Oh, but you got to bundle re-election money for Obama first

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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No

Just start a solar company and then ask the Obama admin for some money

After you get the money, layoff the employess and then pay you and a couple other execs million dollar bonus's (out or the tax dollars you get)

You can end up with a few million this way


Oh, but you got to bundle re-election money for Obama first

Right, you go after the rich people, those who can provide the funds.

Same reason you don't pitch homeless people for venture capital.

Yet, you think the poor should fund the mistakes of the rich.

[rushmc 23]

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No

Just start a solar company and then ask the Obama admin for some money

After you get the money, layoff the employess and then pay you and a couple other execs million dollar bonus's (out or the tax dollars you get)

You can end up with a few million this way


Oh, but you got to bundle re-election money for Obama first

Right, you go after the rich people, those who can provide the funds.

Same reason you don't pitch homeless people for venture capital.

Yet, you think the poor should fund the mistakes of the rich.

Mine post is based on facts that have happened

where did your fiction come from?

And who am I to throw a ball at?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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where did your fiction come from?

When you need money, you tend to ask people who have money. That's not fiction, that's common sense.

[rushmc 23]

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where did your fiction come from?

When you need money, you tend to ask people who have money. That's not fiction, that's common sense.

Mine was a true story

more than one time over

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Mine was a true story

You have said that twice now. Would you like a gold star or something?

[wmw999 2,452]

It costs the IRS a little under $3 to process a paper return. Most of the people who would be added with an "everyone pays somethig" rule would be filing with paper -- they don't have computers or computer savvy.

Since, again, some of these are going to be less educated, costs are very possibly going to be even higher due to errors. Hard to cut government when you have to add a boatload of IRS people to process all that.

Having a mandatory volunteer requirement if you don't pay taxes (with a few exemptions based on disability, age, or maybe taking care of someone totally disabled) makes more sense to me.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[rushmc 23]

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Mine was a true story

You have said that twice now. Would you like a gold star or something?

not really

I want you to open your eyes

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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It costs the IRS a little under $3 to process a paper return. Most of the people who would be added with an "everyone pays somethig" rule would be filing with paper -- they don't have computers or computer savvy.

Since, again, some of these are going to be less educated, costs are very possibly going to be even higher due to errors. Hard to cut government when you have to add a boatload of IRS people to process all that.

Having a mandatory volunteer requirement if you don't pay taxes (with a few exemptions based on disability, age, or maybe taking care of someone totally disabled) makes more sense to me.

Wendy P.

What is a mandatory volunteer?

And what would you suggest the requirment be?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,997]

>I just don't like paying taxes when . . .

Yes, you have given all the usual reasons why you refuse to compromise unless your demands are met. Both sides have gotten very good at that.

We have to raise taxes and cut spending if we are going to close the budget gap. That will never happen, and you have given the reason why in your past few posts.

[rushmc 23]

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>I just don't like paying taxes when . . .

Yes, you have given all the usual reasons why you refuse to compromise unless your demands are met. Both sides have gotten very good at that.

We have to raise taxes and cut spending if we are going to close the budget gap. That will never happen, and you have given the reason why in your past few posts.

NO you dont

It is just your opinon

and you pretending you are on the high road is pittiful

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>I just don't like paying taxes when . . .

Yes, you have given all the usual reasons why you refuse to compromise unless your demands are met. Both sides have gotten very good at that.

We have to raise taxes and cut spending if we are going to close the budget gap. That will never happen, and you have given the reason why in your past few posts.

Bill, is it wrong to feel that ALL people should contribute? How about we send some of these freeloaders over to your house for some free food and a place to sleep.

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How about we send some of these freeloaders over to your house for some free food and a place to sleep.

If you think it is such a great life to be a freeloader, why don't you try doing it for two months?

Try and live off welfare and foodstamps for 2 months. The concept that a majority of these people enjoy living like that is laughable.

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How about we send some of these freeloaders over to your house for some free food and a place to sleep.

If you think it is such a great life to be a freeloader, why don't you try doing it for two months?

Try and live off welfare and food-stamps for 2 months. The concept that a majority of these people enjoy living like that is laughable.

Serious question~ do YOU know anyone personally who is on welfare and food-stamps ONLY?

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

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How about we send some of these freeloaders over to your house for some free food and a place to sleep.

If you think it is such a great life to be a freeloader, why don't you try doing it for two months?

Try and live off welfare and foodstamps for 2 months. The concept that a majority of these people enjoy living like that is laughable.

Sorry but I couldn't lower myself to be dependant on someone else, I was raised better than that.

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How about we send some of these freeloaders over to your house for some free food and a place to sleep.

If you think it is such a great life to be a freeloader, why don't you try doing it for two months?

Try and live off welfare and foodstamps for 2 months. The concept that a majority of these people enjoy living like that is laughable.

I could scoop shit out of your toilet and make more money than provided by the gov

So in the end, for most (not all) it is a choice

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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The concept that a majority of these people enjoy living like that is laughable.

Whatever dude...you and your woman apparently never shared a romantic evening of 2 buck chuck and government cheese.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

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>I am all for a temporary raise in taxes as long as everybody pays including those
>that make less than 10k a year, until everybody pays a little no one else should
>have an increase.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why no one will ever make any progress with the debt problem. No one will be willing to sacrifice their golden calf until they get their political favors granted.

Repub: "Sure, I'm OK with raising taxes - as long as you tax those lazy fucks first!"

Dem: "Sure, I'm OK with cutting programs - as long as you tax the evil rich first!"

Result? What we have today.

what is wrong with having everybody share in the workload?

It breaks up the voter base

I remember when people would work hard or got made fun of or chastized, now those that don't work get coddled and given things.

Well, among the biggest beneficiaries of taxpayer support were the bankers who precipitated the recession through their greed. On the whole I'd rather give $10 to a homeless unemployed person than $10Million to a Wall St. banker.

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