The latest push in the War on Women . . .

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This 30 year old "student" said is cost her 3K per year

I believe she said $3K over the course of three years, but that still seems a bit high. (Though I don't know; maybe it is expensive up there?)

Out of curiosity, I glanced through Georgetown's health plan: http://studentaffairs.georgetown.edu/insurance/premierplanbooklet.pdf, and it looks like there are a lot of exclusions (fertility drugs, Viagra, skydiving accidents, etc.). And the students can opt out of paying for the university's health insurance if they provide their own health insurance.

Seems like they're in a pretty good situation, at a good school, with reasonably good health insurance, and likely a good career in the future. Which is more than most people in the country can say. So I just can't seem to get upset about the Georgetown students having to pay for their own contraception.

If the Catholic hierarchy worried a bit more about the sexual misconduct of its own priests and less about the sexual activities of others, it would appear far less hypocritical.

Instead of snubbing Archbishop Diarmuid Martin for exposing the pedophilia of the priesthood in Ireland, the Vatican should have praised him.

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http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/06/investors-flee-carbonite-after-limbaugh-announcement/

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On Saturday, Carbonite CEO David Friend released a statement on his company’s website declaring that Carbonite had decided to “withdraw” advertising from Rush Limbaugh’s radio show in the wake of his controversial remarks involving Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke because it will “ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse”:


Even though Mr. Limbaugh has now issued an apology, we have nonetheless decided to withdraw our advertising from his show. We hope that our action, along with the other advertisers who have already withdrawn their ads, will ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse.

However, it hasn’t done much to contribute to his company’s stock price. Since the market opened on Monday through its close today, Carbonite stock (NASDAQ:CARB) has plummeted nearly 12 percent, outpacing the drop of the NASDAQ index in that same time period by nine-and-a-half points. It was also one of the biggest decliners on the NASDAQ on Tuesday.

I guess they will be back advertising on his show soon.

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http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/06/investors-flee-carbonite-after-limbaugh-announcement/

***On Saturday, Carbonite CEO David Friend released a statement on his company’s website declaring that Carbonite had decided to “withdraw” advertising from Rush Limbaugh’s radio show in the wake of his controversial remarks involving Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke because it will “ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse”:


Even though Mr. Limbaugh has now issued an apology, we have nonetheless decided to withdraw our advertising from his show. We hope that our action, along with the other advertisers who have already withdrawn their ads, will ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse.

However, it hasn’t done much to contribute to his company’s stock price. Since the market opened on Monday through its close today, Carbonite stock (NASDAQ:CARB) has plummeted nearly 12 percent, outpacing the drop of the NASDAQ index in that same time period by nine-and-a-half points. It was also one of the biggest decliners on the NASDAQ on Tuesday.

I guess they will be back advertising on his show soon.

Perhaps David Friend is driven not just by money?

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Has Rush ever said anything you disagree with?

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http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/06/investors-flee-carbonite-after-limbaugh-announcement/

***On Saturday, Carbonite CEO David Friend released a statement on his company’s website declaring that Carbonite had decided to “withdraw” advertising from Rush Limbaugh’s radio show in the wake of his controversial remarks involving Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke because it will “ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse”:


Even though Mr. Limbaugh has now issued an apology, we have nonetheless decided to withdraw our advertising from his show. We hope that our action, along with the other advertisers who have already withdrawn their ads, will ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse.

However, it hasn’t done much to contribute to his company’s stock price. Since the market opened on Monday through its close today, Carbonite stock (NASDAQ:CARB) has plummeted nearly 12 percent, outpacing the drop of the NASDAQ index in that same time period by nine-and-a-half points. It was also one of the biggest decliners on the NASDAQ on Tuesday.

I guess they will be back advertising on his show soon.

Perhaps David Friend is driven not just by money?

His stockholders are, though. he will be sniveling and whining like a baby begging Limbaugh to let him advertise again very soon.

I'm hoping I move up in the waiting line to get my company ads on the Limbaugh Show. Advertising on his show is very profitable.

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>I'm hoping I move up in the waiting line to get my company ads on the Limbaugh Show.

Interesting that so many people here are supporting a guy who called a grad student a slut and a whore for voicing her opinion. It will be interesting to see if their tolerance extends to the same words when spoken by someone not on "their team."

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>I'm hoping I move up in the waiting line to get my company ads on the Limbaugh Show.

Interesting that so many people here are supporting a guy who called a grad student a slut and a whore for voicing her opinion.

I agree.
It says a lot about them I think.

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>I'm hoping I move up in the waiting line to get my company ads on the Limbaugh Show.

Interesting that so many people here are supporting a guy who called a grad student a slut and a whore for voicing her opinion. It will be interesting to see if their tolerance extends to the same words when spoken by someone not on "their team."

I believe you watch people like Maher and Stewart. They have said just as bad or worse. Merely watching or listening to them does not mean I support what they say. Limbaugh has apologized, so did Imus and Schultz. I don't recall you expressing the sam outrage when Schultz made his comments so I would suggest you turn that mirror and your finger pointing around.I forgive them for what they said and I hope they will refrain from such in the future. In the meantime, life goes on.

I also don't recall you coming to the defense of Palin, Bachmann and Ingraham.

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>I'm hoping I move up in the waiting line to get my company ads on the Limbaugh Show.

Interesting that so many people here are supporting a guy who called a grad student a slut and a whore for voicing her opinion.

I agree.
It says a lot about them I think.

Don't forget he also wanted to watch videos of her having sex; just some more good conservative Christian values.

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>I'm hoping I move up in the waiting line to get my company ads on the Limbaugh Show.

Interesting that so many people here are supporting a guy who called a grad student a slut and a whore for voicing her opinion.

I agree.
It says a lot about them I think.

Don't forget he also wanted to watch videos of her having sex; just some more good conservative Christian values.

When did he ever portray himself as a conservative Christian? Can you post a link where you got this information from?

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>I'm hoping I move up in the waiting line to get my company ads on the Limbaugh Show.

Interesting that so many people here are supporting a guy who called a grad student a slut and a whore for voicing her opinion.

I agree.
It says a lot about them I think.

Don't forget he also wanted to watch videos of her having sex; just some more good conservative Christian values.

When did he ever portray himself as a conservative Christian? Can you post a link where you got this information from?

A. He's a Christian
B. He's a conservative
C. he does not believe in evolution, but in ID.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2010/09/29/tackling_darwinism_in_literalville

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No. What pisses off people like me is that the government is getting involved in procreation and stemming it not by providing it themselves but ordering others to pay for it.

So women don't have the money for birth control? Well, then, let's just ensure that everybody pays for it, then. I feel bad for gay men that are now put in a position of paying for birth control for others.

I don't like paying for sex. And I like it even less paying for someone else to have sex. (Note: where do AIDS activists stand on this issue of unsafe sex?)

No. What pisses off people like me is that the government is getting involved in procreation wars and stemming it not by providing it themselves but ordering others to pay for it.

So women the people don't have the money for birth control wars? Well, then, let's just ensure that everybody pays for it, then. I feel bad for gay men that are now put in a position of paying for birth control wars for others.

I don't like paying for sex wars. And I like it even less paying for someone else to have sex fight wars. (Note: where do AIDS activists stand on this issue of unsafe sex wars?)

You don't see a difference between the government paying for something and the government ordering someone else to pay for something? I think there's a lesser argument if the government just came out and paid for it.

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You don't see a difference between the government paying for something and the government ordering someone else to pay for something? I think there's a lesser argument if the government just came out and paid for it.

No I don't. 'taxation' is taxation.

Government makes me pay for tags for my car. Government pays for the tags for my car and I pay for it through income taxes. It's the same thing.

But it is also a great argument for the case of a single payer Health Care system. hooray for that.

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You don't see a difference between the government paying for something and the government ordering someone else to pay for something? I think there's a lesser argument if the government just came out and paid for it.

No I don't. 'taxation' is taxation.

Government makes me pay for tags for my car. Government pays for the tags for my car and I pay for it through income taxes. It's the same thing.

But it is also a great argument for the case of a single payer Health Care system. hooray for that.

Well, that seems to settle that whole "tax-or-fee" argument! ...And it seems that there is a glimmer of hope for TK after all!

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>I'm hoping I move up in the waiting line to get my company ads on the Limbaugh Show.

Interesting that so many people here are supporting a guy who called a grad student a slut and a whore for voicing her opinion.

I agree.
It says a lot about them I think.

Don't forget he also wanted to watch videos of her having sex; just some more good conservative Christian values.

When did he ever portray himself as a conservative Christian? Can you post a link where you got this information from?

A. He's a Christian
B. He's a conservative
C. he does not believe in evolution, but in ID.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2010/09/29/tackling_darwinism_in_literalville

Someone who has had 3 marriages is not portraying themselves as conservative Christian. People can also have specific beliefs and still not portray themselves as someone with those beliefs. As an example, one can be a skydiver without portraying themselves as such. I have heard Limbaugh portray himself as a conservative but rarely as a Christian as religion is not something frequently discussed on his show. It's very likely because he knows a fairly large percentage of his audience is either Athiest or some other religion such as Hebrew.

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http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/06/investors-flee-carbonite-after-limbaugh-announcement/

***On Saturday, Carbonite CEO David Friend released a statement on his company’s website declaring that Carbonite had decided to “withdraw” advertising from Rush Limbaugh’s radio show in the wake of his controversial remarks involving Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke because it will “ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse”:


Even though Mr. Limbaugh has now issued an apology, we have nonetheless decided to withdraw our advertising from his show. We hope that our action, along with the other advertisers who have already withdrawn their ads, will ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse.

However, it hasn’t done much to contribute to his company’s stock price. Since the market opened on Monday through its close today, Carbonite stock (NASDAQ:CARB) has plummeted nearly 12 percent, outpacing the drop of the NASDAQ index in that same time period by nine-and-a-half points. It was also one of the biggest decliners on the NASDAQ on Tuesday.

I guess they will be back advertising on his show soon.

Perhaps David Friend is driven not just by money?

His stockholders are, though. he will be sniveling and whining like a baby begging Limbaugh to let him advertise again very soon.

I'm hoping I move up in the waiting line to get my company ads on the Limbaugh Show. Advertising on his show is very profitable.

As someone once said, "It appears the free market is taking it's course."

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Has Rush ever said anything you disagree with?

I am sure he has
I do not get to listen to him very often

When stupid crap like this comes up I will go read or listen to what he says about the situtation

I get a good chuckel reading all those who post here, about Rush, who dont have a clue

Which is most of them

None of this was said about Maher

Who is the real ass when it comes to women

But the double standard will always be there

Not to mention this thread was started on a false premise to begin with

Please though

Carry on

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>I'm hoping I move up in the waiting line to get my company ads on the Limbaugh Show.

Interesting that so many people here are supporting a guy who called a grad student a slut and a whore for voicing her opinion. It will be interesting to see if their tolerance extends to the same words when spoken by someone not on "their team."

I did not see your bundle up your panties when Maher called others worse

Hypocrisy at its finest

And dont give us the BS about public and all that

This women has been an activist for years

SHE and the Dems pushed her into the spotlight with a fake committee meeting

She will discarded just like Sheehan was when they are done with their (and your) fake outrage

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>He apologizes for lowering himself to the level of the left so, yes at the time he
>made the comments, he was acting as a lefty. He has since rasied himself back
>to a better and higher standard

Excellent! So he calls a law student a whore and a slut - but it wasn't really his fault, a lefty did it, and it just demonstrates what high standards he has! And his namecalling wasn't the issue, it's that evil lefties noticed that he called her a whore.

No wonder he's the de facto leader of the GOP.

You are desperate sir

He admitted he was wrong

He said the name calling was a mistake on his part

You need a break

And he would not have said any of those things had his sponsors not pulled out. Says a lot about him, and those like you who support him.

Of course civil public discourse is that which is defined by the left
The left can spew anything they wish

but to your point

It seems pulling adds from Rush's show and stating that publicly has its own repercussions

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On Saturday, Carbonite CEO David Friend released a statement on his company’s website declaring that Carbonite had decided to “withdraw” advertising from Rush Limbaugh’s radio show in the wake of his controversial remarks involving Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke because it will “ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse”:

Even though Mr. Limbaugh has now issued an apology, we have nonetheless decided to withdraw our advertising from his show. We hope that our action, along with the other advertisers who have already withdrawn their ads, will ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse.

However, it hasn’t done much to contribute to his company’s stock price. Since the market opened on Monday through its close today, Carbonite stock (NASDAQ:CARB) has plummeted nearly 12 percent, outpacing the drop of the NASDAQ index in that same time period by nine-and-a-half points. It was also one of the biggest decliners on the NASDAQ on Tuesday.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Well, that seems to settle that whole "tax-or-fee" argument! ...And it seems that there is a glimmer of hope for TK after all! Smile

appreciate the vote of support....

The difference between me and many conservatives is I do not mind paying for some things through taxes.

I'm for education, health care, roads, police.

I understand that the country actually costs money to run, vs. the Libertarian approach of every man for himself.

I do not like paying for wars, useless laws that drive up costs, like putting Walk/Don't Walk lights at intersection where no person has even stepped. Sprinkler systems in buildings that have no walls. Security measures like the TSA, DHS and the Patriot Act. Paying Americans to spy on Americans does not excite me.

Government projects should be looking after the basic needs of the people and should be protecting the people. We actually agree on a lt more than most people think.

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One thing I find confusing: It seems that anyone who is strongly against abortion, that they would be strongly for any plan to reduce the number of abortions that happen. And providing free birth control to all women definitely seems like a way to reduce the number of abortions. But it seems like a lot of the people who are strongly against abortion are also against providing birth control to women, which doesn't make much sense to me.

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Jesus replied, “And you experts in the law, woe to you, because you load people down with burdens they can hardly carry, and you yourselves will not lift one finger to help them.

Matthew 23:4
They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.


That's all...I just found the context of these verses to be relevant. It's basically condemning the religious leaders of the day for creating their own burdensome religious rules outside of scripture.

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>Also, Her decision to go to Georgetown in the face of "hostile" health care policy is
>quite different than coping with the weather in Boston.

To a typical graduate student, hostile weather is a bigger issue than the predicted future details of a health care system.

OK, I know I'm probably gonna regret revisiting this, but...

I find myself disagreeing with your statements regarding adversity vs quality of education.

Here's a short list: MIT, Harvard, Brown, Columbia, Wesleyan, Chicago, Princeton, Yale, Cornell, Georgetown, W&M, Wellesley, and many more. ...are among colleges and universities which might be considered to be in the top tiers of "quality of education". Graduates of these institutions are generally well-regarded ...especially if they are left-leaning. (of course right-leaning graduates of these schools are usually portrayed either as anomalies or as "fortunate-son/daughter" types.) The weather can get quite hostile during winters at the locations of these schools. It really speaks quite well for the students who have overcome this adversity and have made it through these schools unscathed by violent blizzards and nasty nor'easters.

In contrast, I went to a coastal Florida college. The weather was usually absolutely beautiful during the winter. I spent a lot of time surfing and hanging out with the local beach babes. Unfortunately, I eventually dropped out of school. I was largely unaffected by hostile weather conditions but I was concerned, and at times preoccupied, with contraception issues. Ahhh!, the memories!
Oh yeah!, My point is that it seems that, by this comparison, enduring the bad weather "up north" might have a positive effect on academics but worrying about contraception issues could have a negative effect. Maybe the rough weather would keep a student in his dorm studying. And if terrible weather really could have affected a student's performance, maybe Ms. Fluke should have been out shopping for a new winter coat, a wool shawl and some rubbers (the ones that go on your feet) instead of whining in Congress about the failure of her "school of choice" to provide free contraception.

Posted in the spirit of humor ...not to be taken (too) seriously!

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You don't see a difference between the government paying for something and the government ordering someone else to pay for something? I think there's a lesser argument if the government just came out and paid for it.

No I don't. 'taxation' is taxation.

Government makes me pay for tags for my car. Government pays for the tags for my car and I pay for it through income taxes. It's the same thing.

nonsense, the only way it's the same, is if everyone had to pay the same AMOUNT in taxes (not the same rate, just a uniform fee) - and then everyone then gets the exact same products also (at which point, it would be silly then to let the gov be the middleman)

if not, it still results in some paying more and some paying less for the same products -

your example on tags:

gov makes you pay for the tags? you are out $100, everybody that drives is out $100 each

gov pays for tags? you might own 3 or 4 cars, someone else only owns 1 car, someone else doesn't even drive at all - yet they all still pay for those tags. Alternately, someone with a lot of income pays a LOT for his tags,in the end than someone that pays zero income tax - yet both get their tags......

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some other religion such as Hebrew.

Hebrew is a language.

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>He apologizes for lowering himself to the level of the left so, yes at the time he
>made the comments, he was acting as a lefty. He has since rasied himself back
>to a better and higher standard

Excellent! So he calls a law student a whore and a slut - but it wasn't really his fault, a lefty did it, and it just demonstrates what high standards he has! And his namecalling wasn't the issue, it's that evil lefties noticed that he called her a whore.

No wonder he's the de facto leader of the GOP.

You are desperate sir

He admitted he was wrong

He said the name calling was a mistake on his part

You need a break

And he would not have said any of those things had his sponsors not pulled out. Says a lot about him, and those like you who support him.

Of course civil public discourse is that which is defined by the left
The left can spew anything they wish

but to your point

It seems pulling adds from Rush's show and stating that publicly has its own repercussions

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On Saturday, Carbonite CEO David Friend released a statement on his company’s website declaring that Carbonite had decided to “withdraw” advertising from Rush Limbaugh’s radio show in the wake of his controversial remarks involving Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke because it will “ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse”:

Even though Mr. Limbaugh has now issued an apology, we have nonetheless decided to withdraw our advertising from his show. We hope that our action, along with the other advertisers who have already withdrawn their ads, will ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse.

However, it hasn’t done much to contribute to his company’s stock price. Since the market opened on Monday through its close today, Carbonite stock (NASDAQ:CARB) has plummeted nearly 12 percent, outpacing the drop of the NASDAQ index in that same time period by nine-and-a-half points. It was also one of the biggest decliners on the NASDAQ on Tuesday.

That may be true - but fair play to them for doing it anyway. Its a sad state of affairs when there are people who will support someone who is so openly spewing hate towards women and pretty much anyone else outside of their own demographic. The guy is so ignorant I am amazed he is allowed out in public.

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