Florida Teen Shot

[jclalor 12]

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http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/17/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html#0_undefined,0_

[kallend 2,027]

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Very sad.




http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/17/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html#0_undefined,0_

Well, Florida's "stand your ground" law turns out to be a "get of of jail free" law. Just shoot someone with no witnesses around, and claim self defense.

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[DougH 270]

What a waste. There is a reason why they call it Neighborhood WATCH, not Neighborhood Confront.

We may never know the full truth.

My hunch is that he confronted the teen, continued to follow him. The teen took offense to it, most people would, and they had a fight.

Even if it was self defense he never would have been in a position to need to defend himself if he was in his car.

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[jgoose71 0]

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Very sad.




http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/17/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html#0_undefined,0_

Well, Florida's "stand your ground" law turns out to be a "get of of jail free" law. Just shoot someone with no witnesses around, and claim self defense.

I agree with the "Stand your ground" law, however, I don't think it's going to apply in this case.

You don't go looking for a fight and then shoot someone. It doesn't work like that. I reserve the right to defend my self, but I don't have the right to pick a fight with someone then shoot him when I feel things got out of hand.

I hope the "stand your ground" stays in Florida, but Zimmerman needs to go to jail to show the limits of the law. The Police dispatcher even told him to stay in his car. Nuff said.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/20/us/florida-teen-shooting-law/?hpt=hp_c1

In a strange twist of events though, now the DOJ is getting involved. With that bigot, Eric Holder is anyone surprised? It's got all the elements to attract him. Do you think he would be involved if it was a white kid that was shot? Or do you think he would miss a chance to step on the 2nd or 10th Amendment?

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[billvon 2,991]

>Do you think he would be involved if it was a white kid that was shot?

Yep.

[wlsc 0]

Shot for being black. As racist as you get.

[AndyBoyd 0]

If it was a white kid that got shot, Holder wouldn't have to get involved. The shooter would be in jail. Someone needs to stand up for this kid that got shot. If the redneck cops in FL won't do it, the feds need to step in.

[kallend 2,027]

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Very sad.




http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/17/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html#0_undefined,0_

Well, Florida's "stand your ground" law turns out to be a "get of of jail free" law. Just shoot someone with no witnesses around, and claim self defense.

I agree with the "Stand your ground" law, however, I don't think it's going to apply in this case.

You don't go looking for a fight and then shoot someone. It doesn't work like that.

You might not, and neither would I. It is, however, an open invitation to those who would, and I bet there are a lot of those..

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[jgoose71 0]

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>Do you think he would be involved if it was a white kid that was shot?

Yep.

Ya, I have to agree with you. There is still his chance to step on the 2nd and 10th amendment. However, that it involves a black kid is just icing in the cake.

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[jgoose71 0]

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Very sad.




http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/17/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html#0_undefined,0_

Well, Florida's "stand your ground" law turns out to be a "get of of jail free" law. Just shoot someone with no witnesses around, and claim self defense.

I agree with the "Stand your ground" law, however, I don't think it's going to apply in this case.

You don't go looking for a fight and then shoot someone. It doesn't work like that.

You might not, and neither would I. It is, however, an open invitation to those who would, and I bet there are a lot of those..

Hopefully, charges will be brought up and the line will be drawn in the sand. It's not OK to go looking for a fight.

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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[RonD1120 62]

Heard on the radio today that Zimmerman had evidence of facial trauma. No details. Maybe the kid attacked him.

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[JohnRich 4]

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Heard on the radio today that Zimmerman had evidence of facial trauma. No details. Maybe the kid attacked him.

Aw come on now, the lynch mob here has already got him tried and convicted as guilty. They don't need no steenkin' facts. You're going to spoil all their fun.

[headoverheels 333]

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Heard on the radio today that Zimmerman had evidence of facial trauma. No details. Maybe the kid attacked him.

Yeah, the kid had been on the phone with a friend, saying that someone was following him. She told him to run, and he said that he was just going to walk fast. Meanwhile, the police folks on the phone are telling Zimmerman not to follow the kid, while he says "fucking coons" right there on the tape of the call. The is little doubt that Zimmerman was totally the one at fault in the altercation. Maybe Mrs.Zimmerman hit him for being an idiot.

Since you are making stuff up, so will I: maybe when he ran after the kid, he slipped and hurt his face.

[SethInMI 174]

That was the kid's mistake, he was not carrying. Then instead of hitting Zimmerman in the face, the kid could have just shot him, and Florida law would have protected him instead of protecting Zimmerman.

Reminds me of what they tell you in CCW class, if you are going to shoot someone, make damn sure you kill them, then there is no one to dispute your facts.

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[billvon 2,991]

>That was the kid's mistake, he was not carrying. Then instead of hitting Zimmerman in
>the face, the kid could have just shot him, and Florida law would have protected him
>instead of protecting Zimmerman.

Exactly. And as a result of this incident, youths who are approached by people in the neighborhood will be justified in shooting first.

Of course, once _that_ becomes commonplace, then homeowners will be justified in shooting any kids they see, for fear that they will identify them as neighborhood watch people and kill them.

I figure once both sides whittle down their numbers by, say, 75% most of the problem will go away.

[wlsc 0]

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That was the kid's mistake, he was not carrying. Then instead of hitting Zimmerman in the face, the kid could have just shot him, and Florida law would have protected him instead of protecting Zimmerman.

Would have made no difference. Florida law is for whites not blacks. No doubt there are some on this forum who also would have called him a 'coon' and happily shot him.

[masterrig 1]

The news story from CNN doesn't say anything substantial. All we know is, an un-armed youth was shot and killed by a Neighborhood Watch member. There's no more information than people calling 911 and anxiously telliong the operator someone was shot or they heard a shot. This is a typical media 'where's the beef' story. All we can do is sit-back and wait for some real information. Till then, we got nothin'.


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[jclalor 12]

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The news story from CNN doesn't say anything substantial. All we know is, an un-armed youth was shot and killed by a Neighborhood Watch member. There's no more information than people calling 911 and anxiously telliong the operator someone was shot or they heard a shot. This is a typical media 'where's the beef' story. All we can do is sit-back and wait for some real information. Till then, we got nothin'.

There are many more facts than what you stated.

The 911 operator told the shooter not to follow him, the child was returning from a 7-11 after buying candy, the child could be heard screaming for help seconds before being shot, The shooter was 250 lbs, the child 130lbs, the shooter has a criminal background, the child had no criminal record.

If the kid was year older it never would have made the news.

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[RonD1120 62]

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Since you are making stuff up, so will I: maybe when he ran after the kid, he slipped and hurt his face.

Uh, I didn't make anything up.

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[DougH 270]

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Would have made no difference. Florida law is for whites not blacks. No doubt there are some on this forum who also would have called him a 'coon' and happily shot him.

That can't be the case, since Zimmerman is not white. I thought it was being reported that he was Latino.

Do you think the law only applied to lighter skinned people shooting darker skinned people? What if lighter skin black shoots a darker skin black?

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[wlsc 0]

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Since you are making stuff up, so will I: maybe when he ran after the kid, he slipped and hurt his face.

Uh, I didn't make anything up.

You said the black kid had hit the other guy. This is known as making things up.

[normiss 800]

Zimmerman appears to have hunted this kid down and murdered him. IMO.

I don't see how in the world this could be prosecuted as a racial crime though. There just doesn't seem to be any proof of that.
I'm amazed that people get a racial slur from a recording that is very hard to decipher. He could be saying fucking cops, fucking cunts, fucking kids, fucking SOMETHING that cannot be heard very clearly. Who knows...maybe he was cussing whatever it was that hit his face.

Whatever and however this case pans out, simply because an overly zealous Barney Fife should not require our politicians to consider the repeal of the castle doctrine extension. WE should not forfeit our right to protect ourselves because some idiot with a hard-on for "taking down a criminal" murdered a kid in cold blood.

[RonD1120 62]

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Since you are making stuff up, so will I: maybe when he ran after the kid, he slipped and hurt his face.

Uh, I didn't make anything up.

You said the black kid had hit the other guy. This is known as making things up.

I did not state that. Go back and read my post again.

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[wlsc 0]

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Since you are making stuff up, so will I: maybe when he ran after the kid, he slipped and hurt his face.

Uh, I didn't make anything up.

You said the black kid had hit the other guy. This is known as making things up.

I did not state that. Go back and read my post again.

Are you now saying that the black kid didn't hit anyone.

[normiss 800]

Your reading comprehension foo is weak.

"Maybe the kid attacked him. "

Try again.