Florida Teen Shot

[RonD1120 62]

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Obama's and Holder's buddies are the real racists here

If something happens I hope they go to jail

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Wanted Dead or Alive Poster Issued for George Zimmerman by New Black Panther Party

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11778354-wanted-dead-or-alive-poster-issued-for-george-zimmerman-by-new-black-panther-party

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Trayvon Martin case: 'Blacks are under attack,' says Jesse Jackson

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-case-jesse-jackson-20120323,0,2131299.story

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson needed this incident. We had almost forgotten about them. It is difficult to maintain media presence when you are the number two minority behind Muslims and/or Hispanics/Latinos. This is a golden opportunity for them.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[devildog 0]

Thanks for that pdf link. Interesting read.

You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions.

[kelpdiver 2]

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He was right about the police response. Now all he's got to do is bide his time. Wait a few years and he can find another black kid to shoot because the colour of his skin 'threatens' him.

Sounds like your personal experiences haven't been great when they lead you to this mindset.

I find it highly improbable that this is a genius patient racist serial killer who will get away with something for a second time. The prior history would be a bit hard to ignore, don't you think?

[kelpdiver 2]

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I had this debate 8 years ago - with many in SC. Is it still true today that if you participate in an escalating dispute and then shoot someone, then you are guilty of a crime?

Sounds like Zimmerman may be in that position, given he initiated the 'pursuit' after being asked not to by 911 operators.

I'm not well versed in the nuances, living in a state that doesn't really allow meaningful self defense. But yes, there is doctrine around the fact that you can't say you're threatened, leave a situation, return with a gun and use it, and still claim self defense.

Since only the shooter can testify, the 9/11 call would be the primary evidence available to show such a situation. However, the later posting from the City Manager seems to discount the notion that he was told not to do anything.

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You're mostly correct - however, should the other person in the situation attack you once you have left the argument, self-defense comes back into play.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[AndyBoyd 0]

I am not interested in fighting over this. I only hit reply to mnealtx because it was the last post. It almost makes me cry for this country that this is what we have come to. So much anger. So much violence. And black parents have to warn their children not to wear hoodies, not to put their hands in their pockets, not to do anything, or they might get shot.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-black-sons-20120324,0,5582018.story

A child is dead, and a man's life is destroyed. Over nothing. Nothing. So very sad.

[wmw999 2,447]

This is the post of the thread.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Coreece 190]

meh...post 178 says it all.

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[Coreece 190]

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Over nothing.

That still has yet to be determined...

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[wlsc 0]

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I find it highly improbable that this is a genius patient racist serial killer who will get away with something for a second time. The prior history would be a bit hard to ignore, don't you think?

Depends whether he gets convicted or not. If he gets away with murder serial killers have a tendency to act again. Plus if he gets away with killing an innocent black kid there will no doubt be others who feel 'threatened' by the colour of someone's skin and will act in a copycat style. Let's hope he gets convicted and lives are saved.

[tkhayes 348]

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I am not interested in fighting over this. I only hit reply to mnealtx because it was the last post. It almost makes me cry for this country that this is what we have come to. So much anger. So much violence. And black parents have to warn their children not to wear hoodies, not to put their hands in their pockets, not to do anything, or they might get shot.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-black-sons-20120324,0,5582018.story

A child is dead, and a man's life is destroyed. Over nothing. Nothing. So very sad.

You have no idea if any of that was a factor in this kids death. People need to put their emotions in check.

It's amazing that not a single one of the emotionally charged hand wringers has called for the Black Panthers, Al Sharpton etc. to shut up, quit stirring things up racially and let this family grieve and let the Police and Prosecutor do their job.

If this was a skydiving fatality, would these same people be here blaming the AAD, the rigger, the gear etc. until the facts were known?

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I am not interested in fighting over this. I only hit reply to mnealtx because it was the last post. It almost makes me cry for this country that this is what we have come to. So much anger. So much violence. And black parents have to warn their children not to wear hoodies, not to put their hands in their pockets, not to do anything, or they might get shot.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-black-sons-20120324,0,5582018.story

A child is dead, and a man's life is destroyed. Over nothing. Nothing. So very sad.

You have no idea if any of that was a factor in this kids death. People need to put their emotions in check.

It's amazing that not a single one of the emotionally charged hand wringers has called for the Black Panthers, Al Sharpton etc. to shut up, quit stirring things up racially and let this family grieve and let the Police and Prosecutor do their job.

If this was a skydiving fatality, would these same people be here blaming the AAD, the rigger, the gear etc. until the facts were known?

If the police had done their job, arrested the guy and investigated properly the Black Panthers wouldn't have got involved. Now you're giving them the publicity they want not anyone else.

[RonD1120 62]

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Depends whether he gets convicted or not. If he gets away with murder serial killers have a tendency to act again. Plus if he gets away with killing an innocent black kid there will no doubt be others who feel 'threatened' by the colour of someone's skin and will act in a copycat style. Let's hope he gets convicted and lives are saved.

Holy Crap!

Now Zimmerman is a serial killer! You hope he gets convicted and he hasn't even been charged with a crime. Why waste the state's money, get a lynch mob.

My advice to you is stop listening to J. Jackson and A. Sharpton. You have become one of their useful idiots.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since this is SC. You probably wouldn't say these things in public. I believe all anonymous posters have some degree of paranoia. IMO

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Gravitymaster 0]

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Amazing how easily the weak-minded are manipulated by credible characters such as the Black Panthers, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

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If the police had done their job, arrested the guy and investigated properly the Black Panthers wouldn't have got involved. Now you're giving them the publicity they want not anyone else.

So you support people being arrested for crimes when the Police have no evidence they broke any laws?

I wonder what the emotionally over-wrought would be saying if the shooter had been a black man arrested with no evidence.

[rushmc 23]

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If the police had done their job, arrested the guy and investigated properly the Black Panthers wouldn't have got involved. Now you're giving them the publicity they want not anyone else.

So you support people being arrested for crimes when the Police have no evidence they broke any laws?

I wonder what the emotionally over-wrought would be saying if the shooter had been a black man arrested with no evidence.

Hmmm, he sounds like his own version of the KKK

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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[wlsc 0]

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Depends whether he gets convicted or not. If he gets away with murder serial killers have a tendency to act again. Plus if he gets away with killing an innocent black kid there will no doubt be others who feel 'threatened' by the colour of someone's skin and will act in a copycat style. Let's hope he gets convicted and lives are saved.

Holy Crap!

Now Zimmerman is a serial killer! You hope he gets convicted and he hasn't even been charged with a crime. Why waste the state's money, get a lynch mob.

My advice to you is stop listening to J. Jackson and A. Sharpton. You have become one of their useful idiots.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since this is SC. You probably wouldn't say these things in public. I believe all anonymous posters have some degree of paranoia. IMO

He's not a serial killer yet. But he's done it once now and we all know the vast majority of serial killers are white so he fits the profile.

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Depends whether he gets convicted or not. If he gets away with murder serial killers have a tendency to act again. Plus if he gets away with killing an innocent black kid there will no doubt be others who feel 'threatened' by the colour of someone's skin and will act in a copycat style. Let's hope he gets convicted and lives are saved.

Holy Crap!

Now Zimmerman is a serial killer! You hope he gets convicted and he hasn't even been charged with a crime. Why waste the state's money, get a lynch mob.

My advice to you is stop listening to J. Jackson and A. Sharpton. You have become one of their useful idiots.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since this is SC. You probably wouldn't say these things in public. I believe all anonymous posters have some degree of paranoia. IMO

He's not a serial killer yet. But he's done it once now and we all know the vast majority of serial killers are white so he fits the profile.

It's really pathetic you are trolling such a tragedy. I guess one banning from SC taught you nothing. No surprise.

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>I wonder what the emotionally over-wrought would be saying if the shooter had been
>a black man arrested with no evidence.

If an armed black man with a record of violence, and a history of accosting people in public under the guise of his "neighborhood watch" authority, had been warned by police to not approach an unarmed white teenager had done so anyway, gotten into an altercation and shot him? And had then walked without so much as a warning? You'd probably see the same sort of reaction.

[billvon 2,991]

>Hmmm, he sounds like his own version of the KKK

Your one warning.

[RonD1120 62]

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He's not a serial killer yet. But he's done it once now and we all know the vast majority of serial killers are white so he fits the profile.

Oh, I finally caught on. You're BSing us. Good troll, you actually had me going there.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RonD1120 62]

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>I wonder what the emotionally over-wrought would be saying if the shooter had been
>a black man arrested with no evidence.

If an armed black man with a record of violence, and a history of accosting people in public under the guise of his "neighborhood watch" authority, had been warned by police to not approach an unarmed white teenager had done so anyway, gotten into an altercation and shot him? And had then walked without so much as a warning? You'd probably see the same sort of reaction.

Your response indicates that you are not keeping up with the news articles. Even the drive-by media has corrected much of which you just alluded to.

It's probably time we all take a break until after the grand jury reaches its verdict.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RonD1120 62]

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>Hmmm, he sounds like his own version of the KKK

Your one warning.

Hmmm! I didn't think that remark was so bad. People make statements to and about me that are worse.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[devildog 0]

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>I wonder what the emotionally over-wrought would be saying if the shooter had been
>a black man arrested with no evidence.

If an armed black man with a record of violence, and a history of accosting people in public under the guise of his "neighborhood watch" authority, had been warned by police to not approach an unarmed white teenager had done so anyway, gotten into an altercation and shot him? And had then walked without so much as a warning? You'd probably see the same sort of reaction.

He was suggested to by a dispatcher that he didn't need to follow the kid. It was not an order from a LEO. Furthermore, there's at the very least the probability that the shooter didn't actually approach the teen at all, but lost sight of him and was walking back to his truck when he was attacked. Apparently, there is a witness corroborating Zimmerman's version of events that he was the one who was attacked and he was the one on the 911 tapes screaming for help.

The mob demanding justice at this point is severely distorting what is actually known at this point.

You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions.