mnealtx 0 #776 March 29, 2012 QuoteHere's a question for you... ...Why did the prosecutor ignore the recommendations of the lead homicide investigator? Because the prosecutor decides if the evidence is sufficient to take to trial and not the investigator. QuoteAs the lead homicide investigator, Serino was: 1. In the best position to evaluate Zimmerman’s credibility, and 2. Intimately familiar with Florida law. Why was he ignored? Evidently, the evidence was insufficient to persuade the prosecutor to bring the case to trial with a reasonable chance of success.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #777 March 29, 2012 QuoteThe point is he wouldn't have shot if Trayvon had been white. And you know this, how?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #778 March 29, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteYep, if this had been a militia of whites, they would already be in jail for making terrorist threats. Yep - there's been a conspicuous *lack* of action by the DOJ regarding the kid set on fire in KC, as well. Something stinks about this whole story. this shooting happened over a month ago yet it took nearly 3 weeks to become a national story. It's almost as if the press doesn't want it to go away. I would not be surprised if Jorges is arrested and put on trial as we get closer to the election. Wouldn't surprise me, either.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #779 March 29, 2012 QuoteQuote>The bottom line is that this case is the tip of a racist iceberg as regards the legal and >prison system for all BLACKS. Those who turn a Blind eye or Deny this reality only >reinforce it. Yes, I understand that that is your agenda - you've stated it several times. Again, that does not have anything to do with whether or not Zimmerman is guilty of a crime. Your agenda is to deny the obvious. I don't deny that Zimmerman is guilty of a crime. The point is he wouldn't have shot if Trayvon had been white. Are you frickin serious? You actually think that if a white guy had been on top of Jorges, slamming his head into the concrete after breaking his nose, that he wouldn't have shot him because he was white? Seriously, Kevin? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #780 March 29, 2012 Quote The point is he wouldn't have shot if Trayvon had been white. Ok Professor Marvel...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlsc 0 #781 March 29, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote>The bottom line is that this case is the tip of a racist iceberg as regards the legal and >prison system for all BLACKS. Those who turn a Blind eye or Deny this reality only >reinforce it. Yes, I understand that that is your agenda - you've stated it several times. Again, that does not have anything to do with whether or not Zimmerman is guilty of a crime. Your agenda is to deny the obvious. I don't deny that Zimmerman is guilty of a crime. The point is he wouldn't have shot if Trayvon had been white. Are you frickin serious? His police calls show he was after blacks. He was pissed off because 'they always get away'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #782 March 29, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>The bottom line is that this case is the tip of a racist iceberg as regards the legal and >prison system for all BLACKS. Those who turn a Blind eye or Deny this reality only >reinforce it. Yes, I understand that that is your agenda - you've stated it several times. Again, that does not have anything to do with whether or not Zimmerman is guilty of a crime. Your agenda is to deny the obvious. I don't deny that Zimmerman is guilty of a crime. The point is he wouldn't have shot if Trayvon had been white. Are you frickin serious? His police calls show he was after blacks. He was pissed off because 'they always get away'. So you actually think that if Trayvon was white that Jorges would have let him continue to slam his head into the sidewalk and punch him in the face? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #783 March 29, 2012 QuoteAnd some contend that due to several year old incidents where charges were dropped/set aside that Zimmerman had violence issues and imply he confronted Martin looking for a fight. And some contend that Trayvon Martin had anger management issues because he was suspended over marijuana and actually state that he confronted Zimmerman looking for a fight.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlsc 0 #784 March 29, 2012 QuoteSo you actually think that if Trayvon was white that Jorges would have let him continue to slam his head into the sidewalk and punch him in the face? He wouldn't have chased him if Trayvon had been white. He wouldn't have looked 'suspicious'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #785 March 29, 2012 QuoteDon't even bother. Some people have such a burning desire to be right they will literally split an atom just to prove it. I only started calling him Jorges because I knew it would cause this type of reaction from the usual suspects and I enjoy watching them make a fool of themselves over such a minor point in the desire to be right. A bit like spitting into a pond full of minnows. Works every time with some. We all know you're just trolling. The only real surprise is that you think it's a badge of honour. This thread's starting to remind me of (paraphrasing) Hunter S Thompson, to stupid to live, to big to die.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #786 March 29, 2012 QuoteThis thread's starting to remind me of (paraphrasing) Hunter S Thompson, to stupid to live, to big to die. http://remus.rutgers.edu/JethroTull/Photos/too_old.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #787 March 29, 2012 QuoteHere's a question for you... ...Why did the prosecutor ignore the recommendations of the lead homicide investigator? ABC News reported that Chris Serino, the lead homicide investigator on the Trayvon Martin case, recommended that Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter on the night of the shooting. Serino filed an affidavit that night stating “he was unconvinced Zimmerman’s version of events.” As the lead homicide investigator, Serino was: 1. In the best position to evaluate Zimmerman’s credibility, and 2. Intimately familiar with Florida law. Why was he ignored? In a generic sense, the investigator is always the one pushing for charges, the DA is the one decided not to. Very rare would it be the other way around, since the DA doesn't look at cases not presented. You're asserting that the cop is more familiar with the law than the DA, who is an actual lawyer? I bet you don't feel that way when racist cops pull you over for DWB. Pulling back to this one - murder trials are expensive and the DA is loath to spend the money on a losing effort, both due to cost and the impact it has on his winning percentage. It's hard to get around the mountain of reasonable doubt here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #788 March 29, 2012 Quote Something stinks about this whole story. this shooting happened over a month ago yet it took nearly 3 weeks to become a national story. It's almost as if the press doesn't want it to go away. I would not be surprised if Jorges is arrested and put on trial as we get closer to the election. this has nothing to do with the election. It's not an unusual sequence. Say a motorcyclist or a bicyclist gets run over by a speeding driver who might have political connections. The defendant might get what is perceived as soft treatment and those of the victim group find out about it, get outraged, and then start building pressure to have the case reviewed. If the facts are blatant, it's no longer politically possible to ignore the case and let him off the hook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #789 March 29, 2012 QuoteQuote>Same guilt. Agreed - and THAT is the bottom line. No. The bottom line is that this case is the tip of a racist iceberg as regards the legal and prison system for all BLACKS. Those who turn a Blind eye or Deny this reality only reinforce it. 90% of blacks murdered in the US are murdered by blacks That is the blind eye of reality you have"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #790 March 29, 2012 QuoteQuoteDon't even bother. Some people have such a burning desire to be right they will literally split an atom just to prove it. I only started calling him Jorges because I knew it would cause this type of reaction from the usual suspects and I enjoy watching them make a fool of themselves over such a minor point in the desire to be right. A bit like spitting into a pond full of minnows. Works every time with some. We all know you're just trolling. The only real surprise is that you think it's a badge of honour. This thread's starting to remind me of (paraphrasing) Hunter S Thompson, to stupid to live, to big to die. I call Bullshit. You took it hook, line and sinker. Don't try and act like you didn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlsc 0 #791 March 29, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote>Same guilt. Agreed - and THAT is the bottom line. No. The bottom line is that this case is the tip of a racist iceberg as regards the legal and prison system for all BLACKS. Those who turn a Blind eye or Deny this reality only reinforce it. 90% of blacks murdered in the US are murdered by blacks And 90% of whites murdered in the US are murdered by Whites. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #792 March 29, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>Same guilt. Agreed - and THAT is the bottom line. No. The bottom line is that this case is the tip of a racist iceberg as regards the legal and prison system for all BLACKS. Those who turn a Blind eye or Deny this reality only reinforce it. 90% of blacks murdered in the US are murdered by blacks And 90% of whites murdered in the US are murdered by Whites. Cite?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #793 March 29, 2012 QuoteQuote 90% of blacks murdered in the US are murdered by blacks And 90% of whites murdered in the US are murdered by Whites. Are either of you citing reality, estimates, WAGs, or stuff you just pulled out of your ass? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #794 March 29, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>Same guilt. Agreed - and THAT is the bottom line. No. The bottom line is that this case is the tip of a racist iceberg as regards the legal and prison system for all BLACKS. Those who turn a Blind eye or Deny this reality only reinforce it. 90% of blacks murdered in the US are murdered by blacks And 90% of whites murdered in the US are murdered by Whites. Cite?? FBI UCR stats for at least the last couple years, although as usual, Kevin exaggerates. Blacks murdered by Blacks: 90.8% / 90.4% (2009 / 2010) Blacks murdered by Whites: 7.2% / 8.0% Blacks murdered by others: 0.4% / 0.2% Unknown: 1.4% / 1.3% Whites murdered by Whites: 84.2% / 83.4% Whites murdered by Blacks: 12.9% / 13.4% Whites murdered by others: 1.1% / 1.2% Unknown: 1.7% / 1.8%Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #795 March 29, 2012 QuoteHere's a question for you... ...Why did the prosecutor ignore the recommendations of the lead homicide investigator? ABC News reported that Chris Serino, the lead homicide investigator on the Trayvon Martin case, recommended that Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter on the night of the shooting. Serino filed an affidavit that night stating “he was unconvinced Zimmerman’s version of events.” As the lead homicide investigator, Serino was: 1. In the best position to evaluate Zimmerman’s credibility, and 2. Intimately familiar with Florida law. Why was he ignored? I saw this on ABC's website. Quick research revealed that the lead only said he didn't quite believe Zimmerman. The DA decided prosecution was a losing deal. I agree with the DA. Pursuing Zimmerman would waste taxpayer money. But it looks like the mob might get its way at this point. The media is having a great time.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #796 March 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI'm asking where the evidence is of the groceries, since you've stated it as FACT at least twice. Got crime scene pictures? Police report? Are you DISPUTING that TM was carrying groceries? What part of "where's the evidence" did you not understand, John? Quote Irrelevant. Where is the dispute? Are you disputing it. You've stated it as fact...FACT, twice now so evidently YOU think it is. What is the bearing on the case? Why is it relevant to the discussion? Are you disputing it? Can you provide a single link to any report where it is disputed?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,027 #797 March 30, 2012 Quote I agree with the DA.. Wow, I bet the DA is relieved to know that.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites davjohns 1 #798 March 30, 2012 QuoteQuote I agree with the DA.. Wow, I bet the DA is relieved to know that. When he got off the phone with me, he said he would sleep very well.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #799 March 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>Same guilt. Agreed - and THAT is the bottom line. No. The bottom line is that this case is the tip of a racist iceberg as regards the legal and prison system for all BLACKS. Those who turn a Blind eye or Deny this reality only reinforce it. 90% of blacks murdered in the US are murdered by blacks And 90% of whites murdered in the US are murdered by Whites. 90% of blacks murdered in the US are murdered by blacks"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #800 March 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote 90% of blacks murdered in the US are murdered by blacks And 90% of whites murdered in the US are murdered by Whites. Are either of you citing reality, estimates, WAGs, or stuff you just pulled out of your ass? DOJ states I stated Mr Williams on FOX spoke to it last night All over the news"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 Next Page 32 of 132 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
kallend 2,027 #797 March 30, 2012 Quote I agree with the DA.. Wow, I bet the DA is relieved to know that.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #798 March 30, 2012 QuoteQuote I agree with the DA.. Wow, I bet the DA is relieved to know that. When he got off the phone with me, he said he would sleep very well.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #799 March 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>Same guilt. Agreed - and THAT is the bottom line. No. The bottom line is that this case is the tip of a racist iceberg as regards the legal and prison system for all BLACKS. Those who turn a Blind eye or Deny this reality only reinforce it. 90% of blacks murdered in the US are murdered by blacks And 90% of whites murdered in the US are murdered by Whites. 90% of blacks murdered in the US are murdered by blacks"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #800 March 30, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote 90% of blacks murdered in the US are murdered by blacks And 90% of whites murdered in the US are murdered by Whites. Are either of you citing reality, estimates, WAGs, or stuff you just pulled out of your ass? DOJ states I stated Mr Williams on FOX spoke to it last night All over the news"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
