mnealtx 0 #1051 April 7, 2012 Dude...*seriously* needed a tag, there...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 3 #1052 April 8, 2012 I am grateful that my neighborhood does not have that kind of high crime and break ins and burglaries. I can easily see myself patrolling the area as a block watcher should the need occur. Hope that does not happen here, nor to my elderly parents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #1053 April 8, 2012 QuoteQuoteNice attempt to dramatize, but I'm pretty certain that after spending several hours there the night before, the police didn't need her to take them to the spot that the shooting took place. It appears the police did not need much that conflicts with thier version of the nights events. One thing I am certain that will emerge, even if their are no arrest and convictions, the Sandford PD was a joke. The inability of the PD to do compedent investigation will be 90% of Zimmerman's defense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #1054 April 8, 2012 Maybe you should go show them how it's done.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #1055 April 8, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteNice attempt to dramatize, but I'm pretty certain that after spending several hours there the night before, the police didn't need her to take them to the spot that the shooting took place. It appears the police did not need much that conflicts with thier version of the nights events. One thing I am certain that will emerge, even if their are no arrest and convictions, the Sandford PD was a joke. The inability of the PD to do compedent investigation will be 90% of Zimmerman's defense. What qualifications do you have to make such a statement? Are you a cop? How many investigations have you run? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #1056 April 8, 2012 Great, now it's turning into a race war. ***Armed Neo-Nazis Now Patrolling Sanford, Say They Are "Prepared" For Post-Trayvon Martin Violence Neo-Nazis are currently conducting heavily armed patrols in and around Sanford, Florida and are "prepared" for violence in the case of a race riot. The patrols are to protect "white citizens in the area who are concerned for their safety" in the wake of the Trayvon Martin shooting last month, says Commander Jeff Schoep of the National Socialist Movement. "We are not advocating any type of violence or attacks on anybody, but we are prepared for it," he says. "We are not the type of white people who are going to be walked all over." Because nothing diffuses racial tension like gun-toting racial separatists patrolling an already on-edge community. Schoep, whose neo-Nazi group is based in Detroit, tells Riptide the patrols are a response to white residents' fears of a race riot. A group called the New Black Panther Party recently offered $10,000 for a citizens' arrest of George Zimmerman, Martin's shooter. Schoep said the bounty is a sign that "the possibility of further racial violence... is brimming over like a powder keg ready to explode into the streets." The patrols are comprised of between 10 and 20 locals and "volunteers" from across the state, including some from Miami, he added. He couldn't go into specifics on what kind of firepower, exactly,the patrols had with them. "In Arizona the guys can walk around with assault weapons and that's totally legal," Schoep said, referring to the group's patrols of the US-Mexico border. "What I can tell you is that any patrols that we are doing now in Florida are totally within the law." Asked if the patrols wouldn't just make things worse -- spark a race riot, for instance -- Schoep insisted they were simply a "show of solidarity with the white community down there" and "wouldn't intimidate anybody." "Whenever there is one of these racially charged events, Al Sharpton goes wherever blacks need him," Schoep said. "We do similar things. We are a white civil rights organization." He went to great lengths to contrast his organization with the New Black Panther Party, who he blamed for scaring local whites and spurring the need for NSM patrols. Schoep admits that the NSM and the Black Panthers are actually alike in that they are both racial separatists. But he sees a double-standard in the government's treatment of the two groups. "The Black Panthers have been offering bounties and all that," he says. "But if we called for a bounty on someone's head, I guarantee we'd be locked up as quick as I could walk out of my house." Schoep was also quick to clarify that he isn't taking sides in Trayvon Martin's controversial shooting. "That's for the courts to decide," he says. Besides, Schoep says, Zimmerman's not even white. "I think there is some confusion going on," Schoep says. "A lot of people think that this guy who shot Trayvon was white... but he's half Hispanic or Cuban or something. He certainly doesn't look white to me." To some, sending in the storm troops seems like a sure way to incite -- not prevent -- a race riot. But Schoep says that's way off base. "We don't wish for things like that," he says. "But there have been race riots in Detroit and L.A... So we know those types of things happen." "You can either be prepared or you can be blindsided," he adds. "This way, if something were to touch off a race riot, we'd already be in the area." How reassuring. http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/04/heavily_armed_neo-nazis_patrol.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #1057 April 8, 2012 You mean it wasn't already thanks to the efforts of Jackson and Sharpton? Regardless, it doesn't appear to have happened - according to the PD: “We have no indication of any such patrols at this point in Sanford. The only large gathering was the children and their parents at the Easter egg hunt.”Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #1058 April 8, 2012 QuoteMaybe you should go show them how it's done. and then he can help them win the league championship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlsc 0 #1059 April 9, 2012 ...Two men have been arrested in a shooting rampage that left three people dead and terrorised Tulsa's black community. Police pointed to Facebook postings as evidence that one suspect's motive may have been his father's shooting two years ago by a black man. Police identified both suspects as white, while all five victims were black... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #1060 April 9, 2012 Quote...Two men have been arrested in a shooting rampage that left three people dead and terrorised Tulsa's black community. Police pointed to Facebook postings as evidence that one suspect's motive may have been his father's shooting two years ago by a black man. Police identified both suspects as white, while all five victims were black... Let's give them the gas chamber and then shoot them. Then we can electrocute them and then finally hang them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #1061 April 9, 2012 QuoteQuotePolice identified both suspects as white, while all five victims were black... Let's give them the gas chamber and then shoot them. Then we can electrocute them and then finally hang them. if you do it now, then the trial will go a lot more smoothly too were the suspects white/white, hispanic/white, black/white, asian/white? How about the victims? the part that sucks here is that 5 people are dead, that's the priority. I don't see how the story is any worse or any better because of cosmetic issues. But maybe some people can generate some outrage over the cosmetics instead of the tragedy and make some money on it ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlsc 0 #1062 April 9, 2012 QuoteGreat, now it's turning into a race war. Except of course it would be a race Slaughter as blacks are by far the minority and underarmed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #1063 April 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteGreat, now it's turning into a race war. Except of course it would be a race Slaughter as blacks are by far the minority and underarmed. 90% of blacks killed or murdered are killed or murdered by blacks"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #1064 April 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteGreat, now it's turning into a race war. Except of course it would be a race Slaughter as blacks are by far the minority and underarmed. You do realize that one of them is a Cherokee Indian, don't you? Oh, crap, that should present quite the connundrum for you to pigeonhole a reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #1065 April 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteGreat, now it's turning into a race war. Except of course it would be a race Slaughter as blacks are by far the minority and underarmed. You do realize that one of them is a Cherokee Indian, don't you? Oh, crap, that should present quite the connundrum for you to pigeonhole a reason. Back to the OP QuoteMIAMI (CBS4) – Florida State Attorney Angela Corey decided Monday to not use a Grand Jury in the Trayvon Martin shooting death. The grand jury was expected to release their report on Tuesday as to whether Zimmerman should be charged in the Feb. 26th shooting. The case is now in the hands of special prosecutor Angela Corey. Ms. Corey said from the beginning that she may not need a grand jury. According to the state attorney’s office, the decision “should not be considered a factor in the final determination of the case.” Former U.S. Attorney Kendall Coffey told CBS4′s Gio Benitez that by not using a grand jury, prosecutors will probably not charge Zimmerman with a capital offense. Additionally, lawyer Janet Johnson, who works in Corey’s jurisdiction, said grand jury are used on “all First Degree Murder cases.” http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/04/09/grand-jury-will-not-hear-trayvon-martin-case/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #1066 April 9, 2012 was anyone really thinking this was a first degree murder case? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #1067 April 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteGreat, now it's turning into a race war. Except of course it would be a race Slaughter as blacks are by far the minority and underarmed. we already covered this. If we were in a race war, the blacks are winning on body count. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #1068 April 9, 2012 Quotewas anyone really thinking this was a first degree murder case? I would call a claim of "hunting down" close to that"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #1069 April 9, 2012 Quotewas anyone really thinking this was a first degree murder case? Ya, wlsc...not that his comments are of much import. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4292188;search_string=Well%20thought%20out%20murder;#4292188Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlsc 0 #1070 April 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteGreat, now it's turning into a race war. Except of course it would be a race Slaughter as blacks are by far the minority and underarmed. we already covered this. If we were in a race war. It would be a slaughter as Blacks are a minority and underarmed. Whites have control of the army and the police. They would act as Assad has done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #1071 April 9, 2012 QuoteWhites have control of the army and the police. Pretty sure the guy who controls the Army is half black, half white. Police, that depends on the jurisdiction. You're pretty entertaining, I must say. It would be pretty scary/sad if you actually believed some of the crap you post. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlsc 0 #1072 April 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteWhites have control of the army and the police. Pretty sure the guy who controls the Army is half black, half white. Police, that depends on the jurisdiction. There would be some defections - as there have been from the Assad regime but the end result would be the same. Any Black uprising would be extinguished with extreme violence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #1073 April 9, 2012 QuoteQuotewas anyone really thinking this was a first degree murder case? I would call a claim of "hunting down" close to that that would still be a 2nd degree charge and even then you need to establish that his intent was to find and shoot, not act as a neighborhood watchman. That he was on the phone with 911 the entire time strongly implies that this was not his intent. At the heart of it, this is a manslaughter charge, just like any bar fight. Though I did read a note that the homeowners association is open to a nasty wrongful death suit regardless of how the criminal process concludes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #1074 April 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuotewas anyone really thinking this was a first degree murder case? I would call a claim of "hunting down" close to that that would still be a 2nd degree charge and even then you need to establish that his intent was to find and shoot, not act as a neighborhood watchman. That he was on the phone with 911 the entire time strongly implies that this was not his intent. At the heart of it, this is a manslaughter charge, just like any bar fight. Though I did read a note that the homeowners association is open to a nasty wrongful death suit regardless of how the criminal process concludes. I saw something the other day, talking about the reasons for the family to be focusing on an arrest and not a conviction. (Why the family would *not* be pushing for a conviction is beyond me.) Regardless - seems that being arrested opens up Zimmerman to a civil suit. That, on top of copyrighting Trayvon's name, really makes it look like the family just wants to get paid.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #1075 April 9, 2012 Quote Though I did read a note that the homeowners association is open to a nasty wrongful death suit regardless of how the criminal process concludes. Why? Did they have something to do w/ Zimmermann being in charge of neighborhood watch?"What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
