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The same could be said for Martin, since he had successfully eluded Zimmerman and then returned to confront him.

From the affidavit that was filed, the prosecutor does not seem to believe this was the case. The affidavit states that Zimmerman pursued Martin, confronted him, and then a struggle ensued. But I don't know what evidence they intend to use to try to prove this.

Given the direct conflict with Zimmerman's 911 call transcript, I don't know either.

The first admission that there's something you don't know about this case. All your other posts suggest that you have first hand knowledge of everything that happened.

AND YOURS DONT???

10 outa 10 then a boom as the meter is destroyed

Sorry, but the noise was your reading comprehension meter exploding.

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The same could be said for Martin, since he had successfully eluded Zimmerman and then returned to confront him.

From the affidavit that was filed, the prosecutor does not seem to believe this was the case. The affidavit states that Zimmerman pursued Martin, confronted him, and then a struggle ensued. But I don't know what evidence they intend to use to try to prove this.

Given the direct conflict with Zimmerman's 911 call transcript, I don't know either.

The first admission that there's something you don't know about this case. All your other posts suggest that you have first hand knowledge of everything that happened.

AND YOURS DONT???

10 outa 10 then a boom as the meter is destroyed

Sorry, but the noise was your reading comprehension meter exploding.

Actually, it was your credibility meter *im*ploding.

I admit I have no clue as to the evidence the prosecutor's office may have. That's something entirely different than completely ignoring any information that is already in the public domain, as you have (except for the bits that let you call Zimmerman a vigilante, that is).

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I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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The same could be said for Martin, since he had successfully eluded Zimmerman and then returned to confront him.

From the affidavit that was filed, the prosecutor does not seem to believe this was the case. The affidavit states that Zimmerman pursued Martin, confronted him, and then a struggle ensued. But I don't know what evidence they intend to use to try to prove this.

Given the direct conflict with Zimmerman's 911 call transcript, I don't know either.

The first admission that there's something you don't know about this case. All your other posts suggest that you have first hand knowledge of everything that happened.

AND YOURS DONT???

10 outa 10 then a boom as the meter is destroyed

Sorry, but the noise was your reading comprehension meter exploding.

Actually, it was your credibility meter *im*ploding.

I admit I have no clue as to the evidence the prosecutor's office may have. That's something entirely different than completely ignoring any information that is already in the public domain, as you have (except for the bits that let you call Zimmerman a vigilante, that is).

"Information in public domain" "admissible evidence."

"Vigilante" is a Spanish word, meaning (as a noun) guard or WATCHMAN.

Fits a person of Hispanic heritage who is a captain of Neighborhood Watch pretty well.

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"Vigilante" is a Spanish word, meaning (as a noun) guard or WATCHMAN.

That's perhaps one context of the word. In this case the better definition is "someone who avenges a crime".

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"Vigilante" is a Spanish word, meaning (as a noun) guard or WATCHMAN.

That's perhaps one context of the word. In this case the better definition is "someone who avenges a crime".

Puts Gregory Hines to shame, doesn't he?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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"Vigilante" is a Spanish word, meaning (as a noun) guard or WATCHMAN.

That's perhaps one context of the word. In this case the better definition is "someone who avenges a crime".

Puts Gregory Hines to shame, doesn't he?

He just cant help himself

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"Vigilante" is a Spanish word, meaning (as a noun) guard or WATCHMAN.

That's perhaps one context of the word. In this case the better definition is "someone who avenges a crime".

Puts Gregory Hines to shame, doesn't he?

He just cant help himself

Sucks for you to know that your hero is, IN FACT, a vigilante according to the strict meaning of the word.

Since you have no real rebuttal to that you once again can only resort to insults.

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Merriam Webster Dictionary:
vig·i·lan·te
noun \ˌvi-jə-ˈlan-tē\
Definition of VIGILANTE
: a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law are viewed as inadequate); broadly : a self-appointed doer of justice

Seems to match up pretty well with your posts, but feel free to continue the vain attempt to walk it back.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Merriam Webster Dictionary:
vig·i·lan·te
noun \ˌvi-jə-ˈlan-tē\
Definition of VIGILANTE
: a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law are viewed as inadequate); broadly : a self-appointed doer of justice

Seems to match up pretty well with your posts, but feel free to continue the vain attempt to walk it back.

Well, shooting an unarmed teenager by a non LEO because he **thinks** the kid may be acting suspiciously with groceries could be considered to fit that description too.

However, "vigilante" is a Spanish word, it is not lexically English at all, and it does strictly mean "watchman"

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Merriam Webster Dictionary:
vig·i·lan·te
noun \ˌvi-jə-ˈlan-tē\
Definition of VIGILANTE
: a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law are viewed as inadequate); broadly : a self-appointed doer of justice

Seems to match up pretty well with your posts, but feel free to continue the vain attempt to walk it back.

Well, shooting an unarmed teenager by a non LEO because he **thinks** the kid may be acting suspiciously with groceries could be considered to fit that description too.

Thanks for proving my point.

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However, "vigilante" is a Spanish word, it is not lexically English at all, and it does strictly mean "watchman"

Fix your shoes - that left heel tap is a bit dull-sounding.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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The same could be said for Martin, since he had successfully eluded Zimmerman and then returned to confront him.

From the affidavit that was filed, the prosecutor does not seem to believe this was the case. The affidavit states that Zimmerman pursued Martin, confronted him, and then a struggle ensued. But I don't know what evidence they intend to use to try to prove this.

Given the direct conflict with Zimmerman's 911 call transcript, I don't know either.

What part of the call transcript conflicts with this? The call ends before any confrontation, so it seems to only confirm that Zimmerman pursued Martin, but it doesn't indicate what happened after that either way.

I know Zimmerman's own story conflicts with this affidavit, but again, I don't know what evidence either side has to back up their case. (And of course, the prosecutor is the one who has the burden of proof.)

The call indicates that Martin had broken contact and Zimmerman didn't have him in sight: "I don't know where this kid is"

But it gives no indication as to what happened after the call ended, so it is not in conflict with (nor does it confirm) the affidavit.

From the information that all of us rubberneckers have, we really have no idea who confronted whom.

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The same could be said for Martin, since he had successfully eluded Zimmerman and then returned to confront him.

From the affidavit that was filed, the prosecutor does not seem to believe this was the case. The affidavit states that Zimmerman pursued Martin, confronted him, and then a struggle ensued. But I don't know what evidence they intend to use to try to prove this.

Given the direct conflict with Zimmerman's 911 call transcript, I don't know either.

What part of the call transcript conflicts with this? The call ends before any confrontation, so it seems to only confirm that Zimmerman pursued Martin, but it doesn't indicate what happened after that either way.

I know Zimmerman's own story conflicts with this affidavit, but again, I don't know what evidence either side has to back up their case. (And of course, the prosecutor is the one who has the burden of proof.)

The call indicates that Martin had broken contact and Zimmerman didn't have him in sight: "I don't know where this kid is"

But it gives no indication as to what happened after the call ended, so it is not in conflict with (nor does it confirm) the affidavit.

From the information that all of us rubberneckers have, we really have no idea who confronted whom.

Sorta hard to pursue and confront someone you can't even see, isn't it?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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The same could be said for Martin, since he had successfully eluded Zimmerman and then returned to confront him.

From the affidavit that was filed, the prosecutor does not seem to believe this was the case. The affidavit states that Zimmerman pursued Martin, confronted him, and then a struggle ensued. But I don't know what evidence they intend to use to try to prove this.

Given the direct conflict with Zimmerman's 911 call transcript, I don't know either.

What part of the call transcript conflicts with this? The call ends before any confrontation, so it seems to only confirm that Zimmerman pursued Martin, but it doesn't indicate what happened after that either way.

I know Zimmerman's own story conflicts with this affidavit, but again, I don't know what evidence either side has to back up their case. (And of course, the prosecutor is the one who has the burden of proof.)

The call indicates that Martin had broken contact and Zimmerman didn't have him in sight: "I don't know where this kid is"

But it gives no indication as to what happened after the call ended, so it is not in conflict with (nor does it confirm) the affidavit.

From the information that all of us rubberneckers have, we really have no idea who confronted whom.

Sorta hard to pursue and confront someone you can't even see, isn't it?

Yep. But maybe he spotted him again as soon as he hung up the phone. Who knows....

Zimmerman says one thing; Martin's girlfriend's statement of what she heard on the phone seems to conflict with Zimmerman's story. Who knows...

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Who knows...

Mnealtx knows. The black kid deserved to die. He's told us over and over again. If Zimmerman didn't get him - some other vigilante would. He shouldn't have bought those sweets - that was the most suspicious thing. Zimmerman is a hero don't you see. Mnealtx knows this.

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When Zimmerman decided to act as he did, and carry, he set up the situation. Whether he started the physical part of the altercation is unknown to me, but he certainly set it up and provoked it.

This is bs

Carrying is not more setting things up than Martin walking through the neighborhood

What counts is who life was at risk

If Martin went to Zimmerman, provoke a confrontation and was beating on Zimmerman he he got what he had coming

If not, Zimmerman should go to jail

It does not matter if Zimmerman was following Martin if he did not provoke a physical confrontation

If Zimmerman DID provoke the physical confrontation then he should go to jail

The arrest, as done, was staged for the media in this case IMO

He could have been charged without all the media drama

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He was carrying because he had a CW permit, not because he's on neighborhood watch.

You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions.

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Merriam Webster Dictionary:
vig·i·lan·te
noun \ˌvi-jə-ˈlan-tē\
Definition of VIGILANTE
: a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law are viewed as inadequate); broadly : a self-appointed doer of justice

Seems to match up pretty well with your posts, but feel free to continue the vain attempt to walk it back.

Well, shooting an unarmed teenager by a non LEO because he **thinks** the kid may be acting suspiciously with groceries could be considered to fit that description too.

Thanks for proving my point.

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However, "vigilante" is a Spanish word, it is not lexically English at all, and it does strictly mean "watchman"

Fix your shoes - that left heel tap is a bit dull-sounding.

Mike, stop being silly. Most words have multiple definitions. Giving one doesn't mean that another is wrong. Different dictionaries give different definitions. The OED gives a different definition than Merriam-Webster.

"Watchman" is a perfectly correct meaning for "vigilante". And there are others.

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You do realize the Z was "off duty" and was instead, on a personal errand, don't you? Therefore he was not a Watchman at the time of the shooting.

I really laughing at you trying to twist the word vigilante to make it mean what you want it to mean. We all know what a vigilante is and Z doesn't even come close to your definition. Please feel free to continue to entertain.

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I really laughing at you trying to twist the word vigilante to make it mean what you want it to mean.

Ya, I think his definition of groceries is also a tad off from what is considered common public sense...

The general public's normal concept of groceries:
http://www.google.com/search?q=groceries&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=hvOKT4PeOaXe0QGXwNnKCQ&biw=1366&bih=582&sei=ivOKT4TdAcPv0gHfnYHZCQ#um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=groceries&oq=groceries&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=img.3..0l10.41428l43286l0l44844l9l9l0l4l4l0l164l649l0j5l5l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=8a90d391f0a861a1&biw=1366&bih=582

Kallend's concept of groceries:
http://www.promo-wholesale.com/Upfiles/Prod_q/Dlk-Mini-Shopping-Cart-With-Skittles-Candy_20090687079.jpg

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I really laughing at you trying to twist the word vigilante to make it mean what you want it to mean.

Ya, I think his definition of groceries is also a tad off from what is considered common public sense...

The general public's normal concept of groceries:
http://www.google.com/search?q=groceries&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=hvOKT4PeOaXe0QGXwNnKCQ&biw=1366&bih=582&sei=ivOKT4TdAcPv0gHfnYHZCQ#um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=groceries&oq=groceries&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=img.3..0l10.41428l43286l0l44844l9l9l0l4l4l0l164l649l0j5l5l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=8a90d391f0a861a1&biw=1366&bih=582

Kallend's concept of groceries:
http://www.promo-wholesale.com/Upfiles/Prod_q/Dlk-Mini-Shopping-Cart-With-Skittles-Candy_20090687079.jpg

I realize that Detroit is going through some bad times. However, in Illinois, grocery stores sell candy and iced tea.

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I really laughing at you trying to twist the word vigilante to make it mean what you want it to mean.

Ya, I think his definition of groceries is also a tad off from what is considered common public sense...

The general public's normal concept of groceries:
http://www.google.com/search?q=groceries&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=hvOKT4PeOaXe0QGXwNnKCQ&biw=1366&bih=582&sei=ivOKT4TdAcPv0gHfnYHZCQ#um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=groceries&oq=groceries&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=img.3..0l10.41428l43286l0l44844l9l9l0l4l4l0l164l649l0j5l5l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=8a90d391f0a861a1&biw=1366&bih=582

Kallend's concept of groceries:
http://www.promo-wholesale.com/Upfiles/Prod_q/Dlk-Mini-Shopping-Cart-With-Skittles-Candy_20090687079.jpg

I realize that Detroit is going through some bad times. However, in Illinois, grocery stores sell candy and iced tea.

They also sell brooms and drain cleaner. Where I live, we don't call those items groceries. Chicago is a strange place.

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>Where I live, we don't call those items groceries.

It's fun to watch the Zimmerman supporters try to redefine words to support their case.