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[popsjumper 2]

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What's wrong with this picture? Oh yes - some Americans are fucked in the head....that's what's wrong with this picture.....

Ya

Some are

I object to your use of the word "some".

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[rushmc 23]

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What's wrong with this picture? Oh yes - some Americans are fucked in the head....that's what's wrong with this picture.....

Ya

Some are

I object to your use of the word "some".


Gotta be careful using absolutes

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DaVinci 0]

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glad that we agree that voter ID requirements as written are a bad idea. thanks

That's why I said to implement Canada's program... They do not seem to have the issues you are bitching about.

But I am glad to see that you recognize that the ability to buy a gun is hampered by more red tape than the ability to vote. What I don't get is why you are fine with stepping on civil rights on one issue and upset about it in another.

[tkhayes 348]

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What I don't get is why you are fine with stepping on civil rights on one issue and upset about it in another.

ditto

[DaVinci 0]

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ditto

Sorry dude, not going to fly. I understand the need to ID for both buying a gun and voting. I also understand that a permit to carry a weapon is not a civil rights violation (as long as you can actually get the permit unlike NY, or CA).

So, since I AGREE seeing an Id to buy a gun is a good idea... Your trying to put me in that camp has failed.

So why should I be required to show ID to buy a gun, but not to vote?

[mirage62 0]

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So why should I be required to show ID to buy a gun, but not to vote?

Mainly cause he doesn't like guns

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

[normiss 801]

Some New Video is out today, along with the firing of the police chief.
WFTV coverage
I don't understand why the head cop was clipped, based on the way the law is currently written, the investigation, and the witnesses, it still appears he did the right thing by not arresting Mr. Zimmerman and passing it along to the State Attorney.

This case is going to be crazier than Casey Anthony.

[billvon 2,992]

>So why should I be required to show ID to buy a gun, but not to vote?

Cause a voting spree has a slightly happier outcome than a shooting spree?

[rehmwa 2]

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>So why should I be required to show ID to buy a gun, but not to vote?

Cause a voting spree has a slightly happier outcome than a shooting spree?

Apples and oranges, don't ya think?
Illegal voting is for one reason only - to artificially tip the will of the country and get a false result in the highest offices of power in the land



illegal shooting spree - criminal gets a gun illegally and goes on a rampage
- big tragedy, perhaps a dozen people could die



illegal voting spree - tips the scales from one party being in power over another (perhaps a swing in power was due, like this election, or the last)
- here's the worst case right? instead of a split party between legislative and exec, we get one party in power and they go nuts, pick a scenario

- 1 - ridiculous pandering and expansion of social programs - country is impoverished, jobs lost, thousand commit suicide through excessive taxes, lower standard of living - worldwide economic collapse through triple dip recession and global depression - a few get really rich, the rest are essentially slaves
- 2 - cronyism goes wild, excessive military buildup and invasion of countries - tens of thousands die, economy collapses, other countries have to follow suit to survive - a few get really rich, the rest are essentially slaves



clearly you must hate children and puppies

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[muff528 3]

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>So why should I be required to show ID to buy a gun, but not to vote?

Cause a voting spree has a slightly happier outcome than a shooting spree?

Yeah, I agree that it would be a tough call.

[kelpdiver 2]

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>So why should I be required to show ID to buy a gun, but not to vote?

Cause a voting spree has a slightly happier outcome than a shooting spree?

like the voting spree that elected Hitler?!

[DanG 1]

People! We're slacking. Did it really take us 91 pages to get to a Hitler reference? We can do better.

- Dan G

[Remster 30]

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>So why should I be required to show ID to buy a gun, but not to vote?

Cause a voting spree has a slightly happier outcome than a shooting spree?

like the voting spree that elected Hitler?!

Nice!

Remster

[billvon 2,992]

>like the voting spree that elected Hitler?!

You know who wanted everyone to carry papers before they could vote? Hitler, that's who!

[DaVinci 0]

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>So why should I be required to show ID to buy a gun, but not to vote?

Cause a voting spree has a slightly happier outcome than a shooting spree?

2000 elections led to Bush winning. Bush sent the US into Iraq and Afghanistan. Bush won by 537 votes, 0.009% of the population.

[normiss 801]

re-elect Gore in '04!!!

[muff528 3]

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>So why should I be required to show ID to buy a gun, but not to vote?

Cause a voting spree has a slightly happier outcome than a shooting spree?

2000 elections led to Bush winning. Bush sent the US into Iraq and Afghanistan. Bush won by 537 votes, 0.009% of the population.

Yeah, WJC won with the support of less than 50% of the population and his neglect and dereliction with respect to Islamist terrorism led to an attack that killed almost 3000 non-combatants and the resultant response, for better or worse, by W.

ETA - Not sure what that has to do with Zimm or Trayvon (except maybe the SYG aspect).

[AndyBoyd 0]

A guy in Texas who asserted "stand your ground" in a similar case just got convicted and sentenced to 40 years in prison.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/texas-stand-ground-shooter-headed-prison-210731482.html

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A guy in Texas who asserted "stand your ground" in a similar case just got convicted and sentenced to 40 years in prison.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/texas-stand-ground-shooter-headed-prison-210731482.html

He asserted it, but it wasn't, so rightly, he was convicted.

Matt

An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

[normiss 801]

That was there, this is here.
Just wait.

[DaVinci 0]

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A guy in Texas who asserted "stand your ground" in a similar case just got convicted and sentenced to 40 years in prison.

NOT a similar case. He grabbed a gun and went LOOKING for trouble. He was not under physical attack.

[Shotgun 1]

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A guy in Texas who asserted "stand your ground" in a similar case just got convicted and sentenced to 40 years in prison.

NOT a similar case. He grabbed a gun and went LOOKING for trouble. He was not under physical attack.

It's a little bit similar. The Texas guy was under physical attack after he went to confront his neighbors (while armed). He even has video of the fact that he was attacked by the apparently drunk men.

Zimmerman (armed) got out of his vehicle to follow someone who he perceived to be a criminal. And from Zimmerman's story, apparently the guy he followed (who turned out to not be engaging in criminal activity), physically attacked him. And it does seem pretty believable that Zimmerman was attacked, but only after unnecessarily following someone (and possibly confronting that someone, though that part remains unclear).

[Gravitymaster 0]

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A guy in Texas who asserted "stand your ground" in a similar case just got convicted and sentenced to 40 years in prison.

NOT a similar case. He grabbed a gun and went LOOKING for trouble. He was not under physical attack.

It's a little bit similar. The Texas guy was under physical attack after he went to confront his neighbors (while armed). He even has video of the fact that he was attacked by the apparently drunk men.

Zimmerman (armed) got out of his vehicle to follow someone who he perceived to be a criminal. And from Zimmerman's story, apparently the guy he followed (who turned out to not be engaging in criminal activity), physically attacked him. And it does seem pretty believable that Zimmerman was attacked, but only after unnecessarily following someone (and possibly confronting that someone, though that part remains unclear).

I'm not familiar with any law that give someone the legal right to physically attack someone just because they are being followed. I'm pretty sure the proper action is to call the police and let them deal with that person.

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I'm not familiar with any law that give someone the legal right to physically attack someone just because they are being followed. I'm pretty sure the proper action is to call the police and let them deal with that person.

With the current (conflicting) evidence, we have no way of knowing if Martin was "just being followed," or if he was confronted by Zimmerman. Being followed would probably make most people suspicious, and I agree that the proper action would usually be to call the police and let them deal with that person. If Zimmerman had followed that advice (let the police deal with the suspicious person), we probably wouldn't be talking about him right now.

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I'm not familiar with any law that give someone the legal right to physically attack someone just because they are being followed. I'm pretty sure the proper action is to call the police and let them deal with that person.

With the current (conflicting) evidence, we have no way of knowing if Martin was "just being followed," or if he was confronted by Zimmerman. Being followed would probably make most people suspicious, and I agree that the proper action would usually be to call the police and let them deal with that person. If Zimmerman had followed that advice (let the police deal with the suspicious person), we probably wouldn't be talking about him right now.

Z did not go out of his way to go home and get a gun. He had a permit to carry and he carried much of the time in his neighborhood. No fore-planning there. I have no reason to doubt what Z said about following, losing the guy, and then returning towards his vehicle, then being confronted by TM.

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone