rushmc 23 #1401 April 16, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote So Trayvon stood his ground after being pursued by Zimmerman. If the scenario I proposed was what happened, SYG is not applicable, since it he would have been initiating the attack. Being followed is not the same as being attacked. Trayvon ran. Zimmerman ran after him. That's not being followed - that's being pursued. At which point Martin stood his ground. There is not one news report that stated Zimmerman ran after Martin Please at least in your self inflicted race blindness, at least get what little we do know straight News reports are not admissible evidence. EVERYONE stop making up scenarios based on news reports, hearsay, and "eyewitness" reports from friends and family. Let the judicial system do its job. Good advice You should take it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #1402 April 16, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote So Trayvon stood his ground after being pursued by Zimmerman. If the scenario I proposed was what happened, SYG is not applicable, since it he would have been initiating the attack. Being followed is not the same as being attacked. Trayvon ran. Zimmerman ran after him. That's not being followed - that's being pursued. At which point Martin stood his ground. There is not one news report that stated Zimmerman ran after Martin Please at least in your self inflicted race blindness, at least get what little we do know straight News reports are not admissible evidence. EVERYONE stop making up scenarios based on news reports, hearsay, and "eyewitness" reports from friends and family. Let the judicial system do its job. Good advice You should take it I have made the same comment (variously worded) all through this thread. Learn to read.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #1403 April 16, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote So Trayvon stood his ground after being pursued by Zimmerman. If the scenario I proposed was what happened, SYG is not applicable, since it he would have been initiating the attack. Being followed is not the same as being attacked. Trayvon ran. Zimmerman ran after him. That's not being followed - that's being pursued. At which point Martin stood his ground. There is not one news report that stated Zimmerman ran after Martin Please at least in your self inflicted race blindness, at least get what little we do know straight News reports are not admissible evidence. EVERYONE stop making up scenarios based on news reports, hearsay, and "eyewitness" reports from friends and family. Let the judicial system do its job. Good advice You should take it I have made the same comment (variously worded) all through this thread. Learn to read. As have I You should try and keep up"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #1404 April 16, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote So Trayvon stood his ground after being pursued by Zimmerman. If the scenario I proposed was what happened, SYG is not applicable, since it he would have been initiating the attack. Being followed is not the same as being attacked. Trayvon ran. Zimmerman ran after him. That's not being followed - that's being pursued. At which point Martin stood his ground. There is not one news report that stated Zimmerman ran after Martin Please at least in your self inflicted race blindness, at least get what little we do know straight News reports are not admissible evidence. EVERYONE stop making up scenarios based on news reports, hearsay, and "eyewitness" reports from friends and family. Let the judicial system do its job. Good advice You should take it I have made the same comment (variously worded) all through this thread. Learn to read. As have I You should try and keep up You contradict yourself and don't even realize it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #1405 April 16, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote So Trayvon stood his ground after being pursued by Zimmerman. If the scenario I proposed was what happened, SYG is not applicable, since it he would have been initiating the attack. Being followed is not the same as being attacked. Trayvon ran. Zimmerman ran after him. That's not being followed - that's being pursued. At which point Martin stood his ground. There is not one news report that stated Zimmerman ran after Martin Please at least in your self inflicted race blindness, at least get what little we do know straight News reports are not admissible evidence. EVERYONE stop making up scenarios based on news reports, hearsay, and "eyewitness" reports from friends and family. Let the judicial system do its job. Good advice You should take it I have made the same comment (variously worded) all through this thread. Learn to read. As have I You should try and keep up You contradict yourself and don't even realize it. I keep forgetting that as a liberal You expect others to do as you say Not as you do"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #1406 April 16, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote So Trayvon stood his ground after being pursued by Zimmerman. If the scenario I proposed was what happened, SYG is not applicable, since it he would have been initiating the attack. Being followed is not the same as being attacked. Trayvon ran. Zimmerman ran after him. That's not being followed - that's being pursued. At which point Martin stood his ground. There is not one news report that stated Zimmerman ran after Martin Please at least in your self inflicted race blindness, at least get what little we do know straight News reports are not admissible evidence. EVERYONE stop making up scenarios based on news reports, hearsay, and "eyewitness" reports from friends and family. Let the judicial system do its job. Good advice You should take it I have made the same comment (variously worded) all through this thread. Learn to read. As have I You should try and keep up You contradict yourself and don't even realize it. I keep forgetting that as a liberal You expect others to do as you say Not as you do Your post #1399 is at variance with your most recent claim of impartiality.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #1407 April 16, 2012 As you say Not as you do But I guess all the comments you made are on first hand knowlegeAnd only YOU are qualified (in your own mind) to have an opinion based on what you have learnedTHEN, you make a fuck stupid remark about news reports not being evidence.. Has anyone here said they are??Keep it up John this is fun "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #1408 April 16, 2012 How is the weather up there in Cloud Cuckoo Land?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #1409 April 16, 2012 Quote How is the weather up there in Cloud Cuckoo Land? What's the Spanish word for that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #1410 April 16, 2012 QuoteQuoteUh, oh. Here comes the famous Kallend tap dance. Calling Z a vigilante is most definitely taking sides. Nope. It is simply an accurate description of an Hispanic neighborhood watchman. I, for one, applaud you for the use of the term in a manner that neglects the clear connotations of the word in this context as a clear gesture of respect for the english and spanish languages and in deference for latino cultures as well. Surely you would be very comfortable using the term 'gay', 'negro', etc as sterile unemotional terms as well in any environment or any group of people. this is very fitting also, since Speaker's Corner absolutely NEVER has semantics-based pissing contests by people just trying to win some minor point on a matter of impotent subjective triviality. golf clap Edit: Actually, I kinda find the wry application of 'groceries' and the dorky application of a neutral 'vigilante' reference kinda funny However - it's pretty much equivalent to calling George by the name "Jorge" - so a deduction for quality points there (unless it's a mockery of the "Jorge" stuff - then I'd add points) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #1411 April 16, 2012 Quote Quote How is the weather up there in Cloud Cuckoo Land? What's the Spanish word for that? spanish.about.com/od/partsofspeech/a/that.htm... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #1412 April 16, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteUh, oh. Here comes the famous Kallend tap dance. Calling Z a vigilante is most definitely taking sides. Nope. It is simply an accurate description of an Hispanic neighborhood watchman. I, for one, applaud you for the use of the term in a manner that neglects the clear connotations of the word in this context as a clear gesture of respect for the english and spanish languages and in deference for latino cultures as well. Surely you would be very comfortable using the term 'gay', 'negro', etc as sterile unemotional terms as well in any environment or any group of people. this is very fitting also, since Speaker's Corner absolutely NEVER has semantics-based pissing contests by people just trying to win some minor point on a matter of impotent subjective triviality. golf clap Edit: Actually, I kinda find the wry application of 'groceries' and the dorky application of a neutral 'vigilante' reference kinda funny However - it's pretty much equivalent to calling George by the name "Jorge" - so a deduction for quality points there (unless it's a mockery of the "Jorge" stuff - then I'd add points) We aim to please.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlsc 0 #1413 April 16, 2012 Quotewhy would the fight and shot be in the grass? On soft grass. Not on concrete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #1414 April 16, 2012 Quote EVERYONE stop making up scenarios based on news reports, hearsay, and "eyewitness" reports from friends and family. Let the judicial system do its job. Well, if we did that, SC would be a ghost town."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolbox 0 #1415 April 16, 2012 Why is it that so many people are trying to turn this into a race issue? There is no evidence of a race driven hate crime in this case. The media has tried to spin this into a race thing just like the duke lacrosse scandal they rode into the ground. The media had little, if any coverage of the little boy who was lit on fire and told thats what he gets for being white. A white kid being burned by two black teens for being white sure sounds like a hate crime,yet no huge outcry. Just saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlsc 0 #1416 April 16, 2012 ...The Miami-Dade Fire and Rescue Department opened an investigation into a racist post on one of its captains’ Facebook page. According to The Grio, Brian Beckmann, a captain in the Miami-Dade fire department, posted a rant on his Facebook page suggesting that Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman was unjustly accused and that Martin’s killing can be blamed upon poor parenting by “urban” parents who are “welfare dependent”... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolbox 0 #1417 April 16, 2012 So a stereo typing EMT post,makes Zimmerman a bigot? Did Zimmerman not lead a petition on behalf of black citizens whom he thought were harassed by the police? In this case,the media once again is using the race card to stir things up,along with anything else that can be spun up. They use the same tactics when reporting on skydiving mishaps (both parachutes failed ect,ect,ect). Like the Eagles song Dirty laundry "the bubble headed bleach blonde comes on at five,tell ya bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye....." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertimeunc 0 #1418 April 16, 2012 Quote So a stereo typing EMT post,makes Zimmerman a bigot? Did Zimmerman not lead a petition on behalf of black citizens whom he thought were harassed by the police? In this case,the media once again is using the race card to stir things up,along with anything else that can be spun up. They use the same tactics when reporting on skydiving mishaps (both parachutes failed ect,ect,ect). Like the Eagles song Dirty laundry "the bubble headed bleach blonde come on at five,tell ya bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye....." I think that one was Don Henley. The best things in life are dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #1419 April 16, 2012 >I think that one was Don Henley. Well, he just has to look good, he doesn't have to be clear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #1420 April 16, 2012 Quote Very sad. http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/17/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html#0_undefined,0_ Zimmerman's an amateur. Self-defense? How's this for self-defense? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #1421 April 16, 2012 QuoteQuote Very sad. http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/17/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html#0_undefined,0_ Zimmerman's an amateur. Self-defense? How's this for self-defense? Definitely setting up an insanity defense. I gotta hear the reasoning, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolbox 0 #1422 April 16, 2012 Yes it was Don.I stand corrected. Song says it all though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #1423 April 16, 2012 Quote Zimmerman's an amateur. Self-defense? How's this for self-defense? The judge in Norway needs to squash that SD avenue if possible, or he's going to rant at the pulpit for weeks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #1424 April 17, 2012 Quote Quote EVERYONE stop making up scenarios based on news reports, hearsay, and "eyewitness" reports from friends and family. Let the judicial system do its job. Well, if we did that, SC would be a ghost town. Population 1 - Kallend. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #1425 April 17, 2012 Quote...The Miami-Dade Fire and Rescue Department opened an investigation into a racist post on one of its captains’ Facebook page. According to The Grio, Brian Beckmann, a captain in the Miami-Dade fire department, posted a rant on his Facebook page suggesting that Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman was unjustly accused and that Martin’s killing can be blamed upon poor parenting by “urban” parents who are “welfare dependent”... That was a racist comment? Really? Are you kidding me? Only a really sick person would qualify that as a racist remark. Are you equating the word "urban" with black? Welfare dependent" equals black? Obviously, the complainant has issues. And who the hell is "The Grio"? Oh....never mind. You've busted your own self. "TheGrio.com is the first African American news video community featuring original videos and articles on breaking news, opinion, politics, health, money..." dude. that slant you are standing on is a slippery slope.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
