Divalent 137
(am I in the right thread? Thousands of replies? Check. I must be.)
Coreece 190
(am I in the right thread? Thousands of replies? Check. I must be.)
nope...not even 2k yet.
rushmc 23
MIAMI (AP) — Court records show George Zimmerman had a pair of black eyes, a nose fracture and two cuts to the back of his head after the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.
The medical records were part of evidence released Tuesday that prosecutors have in the second-degree murder case against Zimmerman. He has entered a plea of not guilty and claims self-defense in the Feb. 26 shooting. A message left Tuesday evening with Zimmerman's attorney was not immediately returned.
Zimmerman was treated Feb. 27 at Altamonte Family Practice. A phone call made Tuesday evening to the practice rang unanswered.
ABC News first reported Zimmerman's injuries from the medical records. Some of the injuries were previously reported by The Associated Press based on video of Zimmerman at a jail sally port.
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
normiss 806
Defense: Move to dismiss on stand your ground law and self defense your honor.
No way these charges stick.
devildog 0
This local story does.
Defense: Move to dismiss on stand your ground law and self defense your honor.
No way these charges stick.
You mean the liberal media, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and friends jumped the gun and got it wrong? Lies! Lies I tell you!
muff528 3
This local story does.
Defense: Move to dismiss on stand your ground law and self defense your honor.
No way these charges stick.
Not to worry. The Feds have a back-up plan in case some renegade judge decides to dismiss ...or if some jury is foolish enough to acquit. This ain't about truth or justice ...it's about vengeance and retribution and George has been selected to pay.
dks13827 3
I have tried very very hard to imagine myself as a 17 year old trying to pound someone's head through the concrete, to no avail.
While you or I wouldn't do that other kids would.
When I was riding the light rail the other day a kid (late teens, maybe early 20s at the oldest) jumped across the aisle and punched an old man in the face (the old man might have looked funny at the kid but didn't say anything). The old man just changed seats. A little while later the same kid jumped out of his seat and just started pounding on the old guy.
That was _without_ any words exchanged.
A more violent attack wouldn't be surprising if the victim had done more to upset the attacker like saying he didn't recognize the kid, was concerned that he was casing the neighborhood to rob it later, and had already called the police.
devildog 0
RonD1120 62
I have tried very very hard to imagine myself as a 17 year old trying to pound someone's head through the concrete, to no avail.
I have worked in the locked unit of a psych hospital and residential treatment for substance use disorder. I have seen the fire in the eyes of a young crazy. That is why I have a CWFL issued by the State of Florida.
normiss 806
I thought your god had a rule against killing.
kallend 2,028
This local story does.
Defense: Move to dismiss on stand your ground law and self defense your honor.
No way these charges stick.
Why? The injuries just show there was an altercation, not who started it.
You jump to conclusions too quickly.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
I have tried very very hard to imagine myself as a 17 year old trying to pound someone's head through the concrete, to no avail.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10tbl32.xls
normiss 806
Defense attorneys regularly ask to dismiss.
I still say he walks.
All the FBI talk is just chatter. When the FBI arrived in our community, they stated they were here to investigate the handling of the case, no specifically for a hate crime. The recent updated reports use a lot of "may consider charges" - pure speculation. Proving this is a hate crime will be impossible.
Anybody see Mr. Zimmerman's personal life exposed?
rushmc 23
I thought your god had a rule against killing.
No, the rule is against murder
The translation has changed to kill which is inconsistant
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
Like you did in your who's the bully thread?
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Below is the AP article on Zimmerman's injuries following the incident. What the AP does not report in this release it the TM had injuries to his knuckles
MIAMI (AP) — Court records show George Zimmerman had a pair of black eyes, a nose fracture and two cuts to the back of his head after the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.
The medical records were part of evidence released Tuesday that prosecutors have in the second-degree murder case against Zimmerman. He has entered a plea of not guilty and claims self-defense in the Feb. 26 shooting. A message left Tuesday evening with Zimmerman's attorney was not immediately returned.
Zimmerman was treated Feb. 27 at Altamonte Family Practice. A phone call made Tuesday evening to the practice rang unanswered.
ABC News first reported Zimmerman's injuries from the medical records. Some of the injuries were previously reported by The Associated Press based on video of Zimmerman at a jail sally port.
Injured knuckles, broken noses, and black eyes are all incredibly common minor outcomes of fist fights. The statement that, had he not shot Martin, he'd have died is bogus...probably >90% of fist fights result in injuries like this, and far less than 1% end in death. If it had remained a fist fight, we'd have probably never heard of it, just like the thousands of other fist fights that happened in the US that day. What made this one notable is that one guy had a gun and used it to end the fight (that was due, in part, to his own wrongful suspicions and threatening behavior).
Blues,
Dave
(drink Mountain Dew)
normiss 806
more assumptions....
Truth is we will never know either party's mindset.
All we have is evidence.
Not speculation.
Not hearsay.
and not much evidence for that matter....
devildog 0
Injured knuckles, broken noses, and black eyes are all incredibly common minor outcomes of fist fights. The statement that, had he not shot Martin, he'd have died is bogus...probably >90% of fist fights result in injuries like this, and far less than 1% end in death.
Question: At what point when your head is being repeatedly slammed into concrete by someone who is on top of you and has you pinned, do you get to decide you're going to die or suffer serious injury? When your scalp splits? How about when your skull finally give in? Or do you have to wait for perm. brain injury to occur?
It's ridiculous to say you have to wait till you're a split second from death (or dying) to be allowed to shoot.
billvon 3,008
>by someone who is on top of you and has you pinned, do you get to
>decide you're going to die or suffer serious injury?
And the other question - at what point when you are being stalked by a guy with a gun and a violent criminal record do you get to decide that you might suffer serious injury?
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