normiss 801 #2351 July 16, 2012 Is the prosecution intentionally trying to bomb the prosecution of this case? Witness #9 Wow. REALLY????? This should guarantee dismissing this judge anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #2352 July 16, 2012 QuoteI guess you forgot what you wrote in post #2276, this thread I guess you forgot that Zimmerman was not "on duty" when he saw Martin.... So he did not "go out looking for trouble"... He went out to get groceries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,994 #2353 July 16, 2012 >I guess you forgot that Zimmerman was not "on duty" when he saw Martin.... >So he did not "go out looking for trouble"... He went out to get groceries. So did Martin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #2354 July 16, 2012 Quote>I guess you forgot that Zimmerman was not "on duty" when he saw Martin.... >So he did not "go out looking for trouble"... He went out to get groceries. So did Martin. Sure, but I never claimed Martin "went out looking for trouble" like Kallend did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,994 #2355 July 16, 2012 >Sure, but I never claimed Martin "went out looking for trouble" like Kallend did. Agreed. While he did take a gun with him to pursue a teenager against 911 dispatcher advice, that does not equate to "looking for trouble." However, had any of the above not been the case, he would likely not have been charged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #2356 July 16, 2012 QuoteAgreed. While he did take a gun with him to pursue a teenager against 911 dispatcher advice Zimmerman said he broke contact when the dispatcher told him, "You do not need to do that". Zimmerman then claims Martin approached him. Martin's group claims Zimmerman still hunted Martin. So you KNOW that Zimmerman "pursued a teenager against 911 advice"???? Or are you assuming that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #2357 July 16, 2012 911 advice means dick anyway. He was fully legal in carrying a weapon on him for personal protection at all times. Just like the law says. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #2358 July 16, 2012 QuoteWhile he did take a gun with him to pursue a teenager against 911 dispatcher advice . . . The dispatcher's advice came after it was established that Zimmerman was pursuing Martin. So we don't know if he continued pursuing against the dispatcher's advice. According, to Zimmerman, he did not. But whatever happened, and whatever does happen, I bet he wishes he would have just stayed in his vehicle that night and waited for law enforcement to show up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,994 #2359 July 16, 2012 >But whatever happened, and whatever does happen, I bet he wishes he would have >just stayed in his vehicle that night and waited for law enforcement to show up. Agreed there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #2360 July 17, 2012 remember the part where I said he was a douchebag? Well I stand corrected.....I meant to say he is a douchebag. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/zimmerman-witness-sexual-molestation-160900334.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 801 #2361 July 17, 2012 and the defense files a motion to squash....irrelevant to the case and highly inflammatory. The defense claims other "family dynamics" involving this accuser as well. Doubt her comments make it to trial. If the case even does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #2362 July 17, 2012 Quoteremember the part where I said he was a douchebag? Well I stand corrected.....I meant to say he is a douchebag. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/zimmerman-witness-sexual-molestation-160900334.html She was 6 and he was 8 years old. Give me a break. This is news? This happens everyday in small town north america...If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #2363 July 17, 2012 QuoteShe was 6 and he was 8 years old. Give me a break. This is news? This happens everyday in small town north america... From the article: "The woman, who contacted prosecutors after Martin's killing, said she was 6 and Zimmerman was 8 when the alleged molestation began. It continued until she was 16, she said."Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,994 #2364 July 17, 2012 >Well I stand corrected.....I meant to say he is a douchebag. OK. And it has nothing to do with this case. If he was really doing that, then file charges against him for molestation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #2365 July 17, 2012 Quote>Well I stand corrected.....I meant to say he is a douchebag. OK. And it has nothing to do with this case. If he was really doing that, then file charges against him for molestation. It might be past the statute of limitations date for being able to press charges on that. But yeah, as it is, it has nothing to do with this case. Strange thing to be released, except I guess it went along with her accusations of Zimmerman's racial prejudice. It comes across as a dirty move by the prosecution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #2366 July 17, 2012 Quote remember the part where I said he was a douchebag? Well I stand corrected.....I meant to say he is a douchebag. http://news.yahoo.com/...ation-160900334.html See this single mind veiw point drives me nuts. Z has tons of people say they have never seen him act like he had a problem with blacks and ONE person comes out ONE and says that he did but even SHE says she can't point out a specific time - and BAM he's REALLY A DOUCHEBAG. To me this smells a LOT like someone trying to get her moment in the sun, if Zimmerman really was racist don't you think they would have found more than one person to say so? Don't you find it a little odd that "oh yeah by the way he also molested me" (next she'll bring up Hitler) I think - at this point - that Z may be guilty of being a dumb.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #2367 July 17, 2012 QuoteZ has tons of people say they have never seen him act like he had a problem with blacks and ONE person comes out ONE and says that he did . . . Actually, there was at least one other person - a former co-worker who gave a pretty detailed description of Z's (alleged) racist behavior. But it does seem that there are a lot more people saying he is not racist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,994 #2368 July 17, 2012 >Z has tons of people say they have never seen him act like he had a problem with >blacks and ONE person comes out ONE and says that he did but even SHE says she >can't point out a specific time - and BAM he's REALLY A DOUCHEBAG. To her I am sure he is. But the big issue is not "is he a douchebag or not?" The big issue is "what does this have to do with the case?" So far, the answer is - nothing. At most a documented case of him harassing blacks because they were black might speak to motive, but this is far from that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #2369 July 17, 2012 Quoteremember the part where I said he was a douchebag? Well I stand corrected.....I meant to say he is a douchebag. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/zimmerman-witness-sexual-molestation-160900334.html proving once again your complete lack of objectivity in your quest to see him strung up. Most of us see an attention whore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2370 July 17, 2012 Quoteproving once again your complete lack of objectivity in your quest to see him strung up. Most of us see an attention whore. Priceless. An admonishment for lack of objectivity, followed by a statement completely devoid of objectivity. A fine example of pot meeting kettle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,994 #2371 July 17, 2012 >followed by a statement completely devout of objectivity. "a statement completely devoid of objectivity?" "a completely devout statement of objectivity?" (intended sarcastically?) Looks like spellcheck strikes again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2372 July 17, 2012 Quote"a completely devout statement of objectivity?" (intended sarcastically?) Not smart enough for that one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #2373 July 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteproving once again your complete lack of objectivity in your quest to see him strung up. Most of us see an attention whore. Priceless. An admonishment for lack of objectivity, followed by a statement completely devoid of objectivity. A fine example of pot meeting kettle. her claims were a reckless act by the prosecution as they are 1) well past any statute of limitations and 2) will never be examined, thus never allowing him to defend himself. It's a classic 'when did you stop beating your wife' claim. Once again I need remind you and tk that in America we require proof before guilt. Given all this, we have to question the motivations of this woman who also castigates the entire family as racist loons, though was unable to substantiate that in any way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2374 July 17, 2012 Quote her claims were a reckless act by the prosecution If it was an act by the prosecution, how is she the attention whore? QuoteGiven all this, we have to question the motivations of this woman who also castigates the entire family as racist loons, though was unable to substantiate that in any way. If she was an attention whore, would she not have gone to the press as opposed to police/prosecution? Or, are you just making assumptions about motivation without proof? Quoterequire proof before guilt. indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #2375 July 17, 2012 QuoteMost of us see an attention whore. That's a bit harsh and uncalled for, given what little information we know about this woman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
