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and he's different from the previous bunch ........ in what respect?



Thread bump, as the film will debut in Houston on July 13.

So, if he's not different from the previous bunch, and (presumably, it has been said by many others) the previous bunch was so bad, then BO is really bad.

If GB and BO and their bunch were/are equally/comparably bad (and I definitely don't agree), I'd still much prefer GB, or just about anyone else the opposition has to offer, or even some alternatives from BO's political party.
People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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The movie was very well done, had a focus about the influences from his past. The first half of it was pretty much non-political, not critical of BO. I learned much about BO's early life, and about some of his marxist buddies that I had not heard of before. Yes, his marxist buddies. Remember in his own words, "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

I know many that support BO don't want to contribute a dime to those that would make such a movie, but you could always pay to see another flick, but actually go see 2016.

Have some courage libs! Give it a look.
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, Fast and Furious,

I agree that's fucked up. I thought that program started under Bush. Am I wrong?



Yes, you are quite wrong. It was a very different program. I understand that the liberal media has told you what you've come to believe, but as usual, getting information from them is troublesome.
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There's been a bunch of requests for SPECIFIC examples of the erosion of 'freedoms' and such under Obama in this thread and so far not a single real example of it.

Is anyone going to step up to that?

GWB, Rove, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, the DHS and the Patriot Act did more damage to personal freedom in this country than has been done in the past 30 years. They authorized a war which had no foundation, causing the deaths of over 100,000 people. The began a ritual of rendition and torture and 'OK'd' it. They began spying on Americans within our borders.

And the best people can come up with for BHO is a health care bill that makes you buy health insurance? What about support for gay marriage (an EXPANSION of freedoms), what about the fact that he has yet to (and probably never will) go near gun rights or laws against abortion (an expansion of freedoms).

Yes he ain't no saint - and he left quite a few promises undone, Gitmo, and such, but really.... - your freedoms are now worse than they were in December 2008?

Not specific to RonD here, but you people need your fucking heads examined.

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The movie was very well done, had a focus about the influences from his past. The first half of it was pretty much non-political, not critical of BO. I learned much about BO's early life, and about some of his marxist buddies that I had not heard of before. Yes, his marxist buddies. Remember in his own words, "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

I know many that support BO don't want to contribute a dime to those that would make such a movie, but you could always pay to see another flick, but actually go see 2016.

Have some courage libs! Give it a look.



My wife and I had similar experiences and came to about the same concluding position as you after seeing the movie. She voted for BHO in 2008, I of course did not.

I am going to see another documentary soon.

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I do not believe that either party wants to solve the immigration issue - they each could solve it almost overnight.

It is too much of a 'goodie issue' for elections, keeps up the hype and rhetoric and is great for pointing fingers and making yourself look good and the other guy look bad.

bottom line, immigration is a joke - everyone wants it fixed, no one will fix it. GWB wanted to do an amnesty program, so did everyone else - and now its BHO's turn to get blamed when Congress actually has the power to solve it.

5 million people marching on Washington with torches and pitchforks - Congressmen resigning & running for fear of their lives - a fantasy but it might actually bring some change.

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GWB, Rove, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, the DHS and the Patriot Act did more damage to personal freedom in this country than has been done in the past 30 years.



And let's be honest here- the Democrats, with very few exceptions, were right on board with this.

I will agree with your primary point - there has not been an erosion in rights in the past term.

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fair enough - pretty much EVERYONE was on boar din 2001. Much less Democratic approval in 2006, but with the Republican majority, it was going to pass.

Rendition and torture? Well GHWB started the rendition policies, used by all president's. Clinton used it too, but again vastly expanded by GWB, and torture too, not by Congressional approval, mostly just oval office policy with signing papers or whatever the fuck they invented to get around using the law.

These are very dangerous things. but I call bullshit on the use of the 'dictator' comments about Obama, my rights, your rights, everyone's rights are about the same as they always were, unless you are on the terrorist watch list....

we seriously need to reel all that shit back in - there is a ton of legislation that could simply be repealed. It is buying us nothing and costing us a fortune - just one example:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/21/justice/new-york-nypd-surveillance-no-leads/index.html

I demand my money back.

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but Obama terrifies you.



Obama actually terrifies alot of people who value their individual freedom, and who value their country enough to not want it awash in unsustainable debt driven by utopian dreams completely detached from any fiscal reality they live in.



That was exactly the way I felt on the night of Election Day 1980, when Reagan was elected. The son of a bitch and minions of his like Ed Meese, et al proved me right, too.

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Obama's Grandmother was a Marxist
Obama's Grandfater was a Marxist
Obama's father was a Marxist
Obama's mother was a Marxist
Obama's step father was a Marxist
Obama said he spent time at Occidental College with the Marxist professors and Marxist student groups.
Obama attended a church that taught "liberation theology" (Marxism)
He announced this candidacy for president in the home of admitted Marxist Bil Ayres (who planted bombs in the 60's).
One of his books were written by Marxist Bill Ayres.
He chose admitted Marxists Anita Dunn and Van Jones for cabinet/czar positions.
He chose FORWARD, a name synonomous with Marxism and Marxist publications for over 160 years as his new campaign SLOGAN!
He is starting his first campaign rally on May 5th, Marx's birthday.
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Obama's Grandmother was a Marxist
Obama's Grandfater was a Marxist
Obama's father was a Marxist
Obama's mother was a Marxist
Obama's step father was a Marxist
Obama said he spent time at Occidental College with the Marxist professors and Marxist student groups.
Obama attended a church that taught "liberation theology" (Marxism)
He announced this candidacy for president in the home of admitted Marxist Bil Ayres (who planted bombs in the 60's).
One of his books were written by Marxist Bill Ayres.
He chose admitted Marxists Anita Dunn and Van Jones for cabinet/czar positions.
He chose FORWARD, a name synonomous with Marxism and Marxist publications for over 160 years as his new campaign SLOGAN!
He is starting his first campaign rally on May 5th, Marx's birthday.



.... and not to forget:

He loves suits made by Marx! :o

I'm flabbergasted :|

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Obama's Grandmother was a Marxist
Obama's Grandfater was a Marxist
Obama's father was a Marxist
Obama's mother was a Marxist
Obama's step father was a Marxist
Obama said he spent time at Occidental College with the Marxist professors and Marxist student groups.
Obama attended a church that taught "liberation theology" (Marxism)
He announced this candidacy for president in the home of admitted Marxist Bil Ayres (who planted bombs in the 60's).
One of his books were written by Marxist Bill Ayres.
He chose admitted Marxists Anita Dunn and Van Jones for cabinet/czar positions.
He chose FORWARD, a name synonomous with Marxism and Marxist publications for over 160 years as his new campaign SLOGAN!
He is starting his first campaign rally on May 5th, Marx's birthday.



.... and not to forget:

He loves suits made by Marx! :o

I'm flabbergasted :|


I cannot get past the fact that when I served in the military Marxism was our declared enemy.
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Obama's Grandmother was a Marxist
Obama's Grandfater was a Marxist
Obama's father was a Marxist
Obama's mother was a Marxist
Obama's step father was a Marxist
Obama said he spent time at Occidental College with the Marxist professors and Marxist student groups.
Obama attended a church that taught "liberation theology" (Marxism)
He announced this candidacy for president in the home of admitted Marxist Bil Ayres (who planted bombs in the 60's).
One of his books were written by Marxist Bill Ayres.
He chose admitted Marxists Anita Dunn and Van Jones for cabinet/czar positions.
He chose FORWARD, a name synonomous with Marxism and Marxist publications for over 160 years as his new campaign SLOGAN!
He is starting his first campaign rally on May 5th, Marx's birthday.



Look, all this is circumstantial.

Sure, he may have said he was a Marxist, but do you consider him to be a credible source?

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Obama's Grandmother was a Marxist
Obama's Grandfater was a Marxist
Obama's father was a Marxist
Obama's mother was a Marxist
Obama's step father was a Marxist
Obama said he spent time at Occidental College with the Marxist professors and Marxist student groups.
Obama attended a church that taught "liberation theology" (Marxism)
He announced this candidacy for president in the home of admitted Marxist Bil Ayres (who planted bombs in the 60's).
One of his books were written by Marxist Bill Ayres.
He chose admitted Marxists Anita Dunn and Van Jones for cabinet/czar positions.
He chose FORWARD, a name synonomous with Marxism and Marxist publications for over 160 years as his new campaign SLOGAN!
He is starting his first campaign rally on May 5th, Marx's birthday.



Look, all this is circumstantial.

Sure, he may have said he was a Marxist, but do you consider him to be a credible source?



LOL

Thanks, I needed that. My house is surrounded by a one acre mud puddle. Laughs are precious today.
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Documentary film ‘2016: Obama’s America’ came out of nowhere to burn up the box office


http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/documentary-film-2016-obamas-america-takes-michael-moore-esque-approach/2012/08/27/3ecb5198-f07e-11e1-adc6-87dfa8eff430_story.html
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Went and saw this last night. Didn't expect such a level, low-key presentation of information. D'Souza makes a good point regarding the media's lack of coverage of Obama's background. He would not have been elected if that information had been shown to the public. Overall, worth the time and money to see.
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Obama's Grandmother was a Marxist
Obama's Grandfater was a Marxist
Obama's father was a Marxist
Obama's mother was a Marxist
Obama's step father was a Marxist
Obama said he spent time at Occidental College with the Marxist professors and Marxist student groups.
Obama attended a church that taught "liberation theology" (Marxism)
He announced this candidacy for president in the home of admitted Marxist Bil Ayres (who planted bombs in the 60's).
One of his books were written by Marxist Bill Ayres.
He chose admitted Marxists Anita Dunn and Van Jones for cabinet/czar positions.
He chose FORWARD, a name synonomous with Marxism and Marxist publications for over 160 years as his new campaign SLOGAN!
He is starting his first campaign rally on May 5th, Marx's birthday.

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Look, all this is circumstantial.

Sure, he may have said he was a Marxist, but do you consider him to be a credible source?



+1,000.

Why is it that everyone else is influenced by there parents and childhood but for some reason Obama get's a complete pass?
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Why is it that everyone else is influenced by there parents and childhood but for some reason Obama get's a complete pass?



No one says Obama gets a pass on his past. It's something to take into consideration, but it's not all there is to the man. He's obviously capable of changing his mind, which some people see as a virtue.

Anyway, everyone does dumb shit when they're young. Hell, I was a Republican.

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Just watched it on youtube. Very well made and gives some insight into the behavior of our current president.

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
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Just watched it on youtube. Very well made and gives some insight into the behavior of our current president.



My sentiments exactly, thanks for sharing yours.
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Just watched it on youtube. Very well made and gives some insight into the behavior of our current president.



My sentiments exactly, thanks for sharing yours.



I had never been to a movie that got standing ovations

....until this one
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Just watched it on youtube. Very well made and gives some insight into the behavior of our current president.



My sentiments exactly, thanks for sharing yours.



I had never been to a movie that got standing ovations

....until this one



I could see that happening. It was really well done. Not a total BHO bash, but a look into the genesis of a profoundly flawed US president.

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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