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Parents no longer allowed to teach their kids work ethics

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At this rate, the only thing a kid will be allowed to do is play x-box.....
http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/25/rural-kids-parents-angry-about-labor-dept-rule-banning-farm-chores/

When I was a kid, my dad also took me to work. Eventually I was able to by my first car at 16 and even pay for my own gas.

No wonder today's kids are the way they are. In the interest of protecting them, we aren't teaching them to work for anything anymore....
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That didn't last long.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_FARM_LABOR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-04-26-19-44-56

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Under heavy pressure from farm groups, the Obama administration is dropping an effort to prevent children from doing hazardous work on farms owned by anyone other than their parents.

The Labor Department says it is withdrawing proposed rules that would ban children younger than 16 from using most power-driven equipment. The rules also would prevent those younger than 18 from working in feed lots, grain bins and stockyards.

The agency says thousands of comments have expressed concern about the impact of the changes on small family-owned farms. Many farm groups have complained that the rules would upset traditions in which children often work alongside relatives other than parents to learn how a farm operates.

Government officials have said their goal was to protect children from life-threatening injuries.

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That didn't last long.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_FARM_LABOR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-04-26-19-44-56

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Under heavy pressure from farm groups, the Obama administration is dropping an effort to prevent children from doing hazardous work on farms owned by anyone other than their parents.

The Labor Department says it is withdrawing proposed rules that would ban children younger than 16 from using most power-driven equipment. The rules also would prevent those younger than 18 from working in feed lots, grain bins and stockyards.

The agency says thousands of comments have expressed concern about the impact of the changes on small family-owned farms. Many farm groups have complained that the rules would upset traditions in which children often work alongside relatives other than parents to learn how a farm operates.

Government officials have said their goal was to protect children from life-threatening injuries.




They will be back.[:/]

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My cousin was killed at age 12 while doing chores on his family's farm.



My cousin was killed by obesity because he never did he chores on his family's farm.
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Wow. These people actually think they should be able to raise their children? What are their qualifications? Are they government trained? Those children should be somewhere being taught by the government. It is, afterall, a Brave New World.
I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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The feds didn't want to stop kids working on their parents farms. They wanted to enact laws for kids under 16 working on other farms. Look at the injury/fatality stats.



Am I the only who suspects "favor to labor unions" when stuff like this comes out?

Next comes "children under the age of 18 shall not be permitted to operate a lawn mower." Then comes, "Children under the age of 18 shall not be permitted to operate pruning shears."

"Children shall not be permitted to sweep a garage."

"Children shall not be able to add air to bicycle tires."

"Children shall not be allowed to lift books over thirty pages."

"Children shall not be permitted to wipe their own asses."

I understand child labor laws did things like allow more kids to grow into adults. But paper routes, mowing services, etc., have been around and been useful for ages. With things such as farming, it also provides valuable experience to them should they choose to become farmers themselves.

What's next? Not allowing children to de-nut steer?


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The feds didn't want to stop kids working on their parents farms. They wanted to enact laws for kids under 16 working on other farms. Look at the injury/fatality stats.



It takes a village.

Letting the neighbor kid go out on saturday and drop hay alone the feed lines for the cows. Letting the two year old go out and pick up soem chicken eggs. Letting the 16 year-old go out and disc the soil. (He can drive his Chevy pick-em-up along public roads, though). Going out and getting that stray bull from the road.


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The feds didn't want to stop kids working on their parents farms. They wanted to enact laws for kids under 16 working on other farms. Look at the injury/fatality stats.



It takes a village.

Letting the neighbor kid go out on saturday and drop hay alone the feed lines for the cows. Letting the two year old go out and pick up soem chicken eggs. Letting the 16 year-old go out and disc the soil. (He can drive his Chevy pick-em-up along public roads, though). Going out and getting that stray bull from the road.



You're talking to a bunch of City Slicker Liberals. Most don't understand how it goes on a farm. Heck most of them will whine if they get a little blister on their finger.

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/04/26/state/n054659D65.DTL&tsp=1

This was the story I thought you might be referring to.

"Parents sue school district over cheating policy."



"The suit says the school's policies regarding punishment for cheating are vague and contradictory and shouldn't be enforced."

Well, "an Academy Honesty Pledge warning him that cheating is grounds for immediate removal from the advanced-level English class." is kinda hard to understand, right?

Let him back in class and give him an F for the year.
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...There are nearly 1.7 million children under 20 years of age living on farms and ranches in the United
States. Farm children are often needed and expected to help with chores or handle responsibilities
at a young age. Due to this fact, and the nature of farming, they are exposed to potentially dangerous
situations much more frequently than children in towns or cities. Here are some startling statistics
about child safety on the farm:
An estimated 300 children die each year in farming accidents
• Farm children are twice as likely to die from an accident than their urban counterparts
• An estimated 30,000 children under 20 years of age are injured each year in farming accidents
• If children who visit or work on non-family farms are added the total is estimated to be close to
100,000 injuries
• Nearly 950 farm children suffer some type of permanent disability because of farm accidents annually
• Approximately 90% of the fatalities and injuries occur to male children
• Children under the age of 16 comprise 20% of all farm fatalities
The three primary agents responsible for deaths and injuries to children on the farm are: tractors,
farm machinery, and livestock. It is important to realize that children on farms may be exposed to
other situations capable of producing health hazards in the future. Some of these exposures are:
noise, vibration, pesticides, dangerous gasses, and airborne irritants...

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So the answer is lock yor kid in the house?

Life is dangerous and always ends in death. Get over it. You will have no one to blame but your self if you shelter your kid like that and then he grows up ignorant.
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Wow. These people actually think they should be able to raise their children? What are their qualifications? Are they government trained? Those children should be somewhere being taught by the government. It is, afterall, a Brave New World.



The goal of Government is to chemically control and Government educate your children.

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So the answer is lock yor kid in the house?

Life is dangerous and always ends in death. Get over it. You will have no one to blame but your self if you shelter your kid like that and then he grows up ignorant.



You're mischaracterizing moderate concerns as extreme ones in order to demonize them and squelch all dissent. That's not a dialogue.

It's not unreasonable to address balancing interests when out comes to the safety of minors. Of course there's a great deal of good that comes from kids working on family farms. But farms do happen to be on the higher end of dangerous workplaces.

Depending on the study you read, farming is considered either the third or fourth most dangerous occupation in the US. That's higher, by the way, than police officers, construction workers and coal miners.

So let's balance the interest, rather than demagoguing the issue.

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