SkyPiggie 0 #1 May 13, 2012 http://www.ijreview.com/2012/05/5448-obama-offered-former-pastor-150000-to-stay-quiet-during-2008-campaign/ He bullied a little girl, lied in his book about an ex-girlfriend, and bribed his preacher to keep quiet. This just keeps getting better and better! O my! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 #2 May 13, 2012 change we can believe inYou stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #3 May 13, 2012 Some people will believe anything they read on the internet. Even if it has a disclaimer at the bottom such as: "The author, Klein, has been accused of writing untrue statements, but if these stories are even partially true, Obama is going to be in trouble." A quick search on Edward Klein shows the quality of his work is dubious at best. It never ceases to amaze me how fanatics (left, right, religious, atheist, or otherwise) will seek out non credible sources for information simply because it aligns with what they WANT the truth to be (regardless of it actually being the truth). If you're that set in your beliefs that you're incapable of changing opinions anyway - why bother seeking false information out? IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #4 May 13, 2012 The comments about the article explains a lot about your observation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #5 May 14, 2012 Thanks for including ALL sides/perspectives in your statement Ian. Cause it's true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #6 May 14, 2012 Jeez. This will sway, oh, about 4 or 5 undecidded votes. The horror. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #7 May 14, 2012 QuoteHe bullied a little girl, lied in his book about an ex-girlfriend, and bribed his preacher to keep quiet. supercheap Especially when it's so easy to call him on stuff that actually matters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #8 May 14, 2012 Doesn't matter. A cult member isn't going to get elected over a Christian in the U.Sof A, even if he does try to play up the the evangelicals at a commencement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #9 May 14, 2012 that's OK, republican candidates through their ideological donors like the Koch brothers and the Dobsons have spent tens of millions of dollars paying people to say ridiculous and untrue things.....and do it very loudly..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #10 May 14, 2012 QuoteDoesn't matter. A cult member isn't going to get elected over a Christian member of a more popular cult in the U.Sof A, even if he does try to play up the the evangelicals at a commencement. FIFYTime flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 May 14, 2012 Quotethat's OK, republican candidates through their ideological donors like the Koch brothers and the Dobsons have spent tens of millions of dollars paying people to say ridiculous and untrue things.....and do it very loudly..... I had no idea you and others got paid (diuring the Bush admin) to post here Go firgure"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #12 May 14, 2012 QuoteQuotethat's OK, republican candidates through their ideological donors like the Koch brothers and the Dobsons have spent tens of millions of dollars paying people to say ridiculous and untrue things.....and do it very loudly..... I had no idea you and others got paid (diuring the Bush admin) to post here Go firgure Except in their case it was Soros through sources like Media Matters ad nauseum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 May 14, 2012 Quote Quote Quote that's OK, republican candidates through their ideological donors like the Koch brothers and the Dobsons have spent tens of millions of dollars paying people to say ridiculous and untrue things.....and do it very loudly..... I had no idea you and others got paid (diuring the Bush admin) to post here Go firgure Except in their case it was Soros through sources like Media Matters ad nauseum. Good for the goose huh "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #14 May 14, 2012 QuoteQuoteDoesn't matter. A cult member isn't going to get elected over a Christian member of a more popular cult in the U.Sof A, even if he does try to play up the the evangelicals at a commencement. FIFY Agree with the fixie. Either they're all cults, or they're all religions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 #15 May 14, 2012 QuoteDoesn't matter. A cult member isn't going to get elected over a Christian in the U.Sof A, even if he does try to play up the the evangelicals at a commencement. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/romney_vs_obama/may_2012/romney_vs_obama_may_13_2012/702981-1-eng-US/romney_vs_obama_may_13_2012.jpg and QuoteIntensity of support or opposition can have an impact on campaigns. Currently, 24% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove, giving him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -17 (see trends). http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_total_approval_graphics/may_2012/obama_total_approval_may_13_2012/702978-1-eng-US/obama_total_approval_may_13_2012.jpgYou stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #16 May 14, 2012 QuoteDoesn't matter. A cult member isn't going to get elected over a Christian in the U.Sof A, even if he does try to play up the the evangelicals at a commencement. Being a practicing cannibal didn't keep JFK out of the White House. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #17 May 14, 2012 QuoteQuoteDoesn't matter. A cult member isn't going to get elected over a Christian in the U.Sof A, even if he does try to play up the the evangelicals at a commencement. Being a practicing cannibal didn't keep JFK out of the White House. That's more a case of role playing.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #18 May 14, 2012 QuoteSome people will believe anything they read on the internet. Even if it has a disclaimer at the bottom such as: "The author, Klein, has been accused of writing untrue statements, but if these stories are even partially true, Obama is going to be in trouble." A quick search on Edward Klein shows the quality of his work is dubious at best. It never ceases to amaze me how fanatics (left, right, religious, atheist, or otherwise) will seek out non credible sources for information simply because it aligns with what they WANT the truth to be (regardless of it actually being the truth). If you're that set in your beliefs that you're incapable of changing opinions anyway - why bother seeking false information out? Ian You mean like Dan Rather . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites