Coreece 190
Coreece 190
Quote"Fucked up" would be the state of humanity if we all stopped lying to each other. It's just the way it is, get over it.
"Everyone deceives his neighbor, and no one speaks the truth; they have taught their tongue to speak lies; they weary themselves committing iniquity."
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?"
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normiss 806
quade 4
QuoteQuoteHow about slavery?
Why does god not care about slaves?
Obvious. Slavery is a political issue. Not a religious one.
And, what makes you think he doesn't?
It's not on his top ten list of things people should do.
I can use his name in a certain way and I can't dis my parents, but slavery? Not even a mention. Kinda stupid.
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Shotgun 1
QuoteSlavery is a political issue. Not a religious one.
I think slavery is a moral issue above being a political issue. But yeah, that doesn't mean it has anything to do with religion.
QuoteQuoteAll professors should be tolerate students failing.
Do you do that?
Absolutely. If students choose to fail, I accommodate them and give a failing grade.
Nice dodge.
Nope, just an accurate answer to a REALLY stupid question.
Wrong again, John. Once again you have responded with a typically bogus answer by a cynical old man not giving a shit about his students and trying to cover it up with misdirection. Have fun wid dat.
Apparently, you think students choose to fail on a regular basis. No, students often unwittingly choose professors who can't teach worth a damn. Oftentimes, they have no other options to even choose from.
You may want to look up the word "typo". It's a fact of life. Get over it.
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
QuoteQuoteQuoteHow about slavery?
Why does god not care about slaves?
Obvious. Slavery is a political issue. Not a religious one.
And, what makes you think he doesn't?
It's not on his top ten list of things people should do.
I can use his name in a certain way and I can't dis my parents, but slavery? Not even a mention. Kinda stupid.
Yes. Kinda errant in not including it were it a list of
And yes, you shouldn't dis your parents regardless of it being listed anywhere.
(edited to change "political" to "moral".)
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
QuoteQuoteSlavery is a political issue. Not a religious one.
I think slavery is a moral issue above being a political issue. But yeah, that doesn't mean it has anything to do with religion.
I would stand corrected on that, yes.
Thanks.
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
JackC1 0
QuoteQuoteSlavery is a political issue. Not a religious one.
I think slavery is a moral issue above being a political issue. But yeah, that doesn't mean it has anything to do with religion.
It does if that religion claims to be a religion of morality.
kallend 2,032
QuoteQuoteQuoteSlavery is a political issue. Not a religious one.
I think slavery is a moral issue above being a political issue. But yeah, that doesn't mean it has anything to do with religion.
I would stand corrected on that, yes.
Thanks.
You need to stand corrected on lots of things besides that.
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billvon 3,009
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>Yes. Kinda errant in not including it were it a list of political moral issues.
Agreed. A lot of more hard-core Christians have a problem with that particular topic, since the Bible not only permits slavery, but gives pointers on it - how to sell your daughter into slavery, how to punish slaves who misbehave etc.
This, of course, does not mean that modern Christianity supports slavery, because our morality evolves (which is a good thing.) But it's also interesting how upset some Christians get over what they call "moral relativity" as if it were the most horrible thing in the world. I think it's a good thing; it's the reason Christians no longer defend slavery as God's will.
Agreed. A lot of more hard-core Christians have a problem with that particular topic, since the Bible not only permits slavery, but gives pointers on it - how to sell your daughter into slavery, how to punish slaves who misbehave etc.
This, of course, does not mean that modern Christianity supports slavery, because our morality evolves (which is a good thing.) But it's also interesting how upset some Christians get over what they call "moral relativity" as if it were the most horrible thing in the world. I think it's a good thing; it's the reason Christians no longer defend slavery as God's will.
Marinus 0
This "It's not the religion, it's just a few bad apples who bastardize it" is getting real old. there's two billion Christians, and of those, hundreds of millions wouldn't hesitate a second if they had the chance to force their ways down the throat of every one else. Even in this day and age with the contemporary and relatively civilized brands of Christianity, and back in the days it was way worse. Persecution, torture, murder.... no means were left unused to spread the religion for more than a millennium, destroying other religions and even whole cultures in the process. So that's main-stream Christianity for ya.
Coreece 190
QuoteThis "It's not the religion, it's just a few bad apples who bastardize it" is getting real old.
Well it's true. You already admitted that the actions of those who perpetrated various atrocities is not consistent with the tenets of biblical christianity...make up your mind.
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beowulf 1
Quote>Nothing in what you quoted says anything directly about any person named Jesus.
Right. They talk about Christ. (I assume you know what his full name was.)
>If Jesus really did all the things the Bible says he did then why so little mention
>of Jesus by Josephus? He must not been that important at the time.
He almost certainly wasn't. To most people of the time he was a petty criminal, executed under accepted Roman law. If this had happened today he would have been an illegal immigrant shot by cops. Nothing notable.
And just to be clear I don't think the Bible (or Josephus's writings) are all that accurate on the subject. They started as oral traditions (since back then most people couldn't write, and had no means to do so) and weren't written down for decades. In that time a lot of the details were blurred/distorted/morphed into what people _wanted_ to remember about Jesus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQw9sNmNEeA&feature=colike
Coreece 190
QuoteIn that time a lot of the details were blurred/distorted/morphed into what people _wanted_ to remember about Jesus
When are you guyz gonna realize that scripture has all the angles covered?
"But the Comforter, even the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said unto you."
There is nothing you guys can throw at us for which we haven't been primed.
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winsor 236
QuoteIn that time a lot of the details were blurred/distorted/morphed into what people _wanted_ to remember about Jesus
When are you guyz gonna realize that scripture has all the angles covered?
"But the Comforter, even the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said unto you."
There is nothing you guys can throw at us for which we haven't been primed.
And thus a more definitive Disease of Denial has never existed.
Coreece 190
you guys are the ones who seem in denial to the point you have to define yourselves through terms that signify a disbelief in something...
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normiss 806
not a disbelief.
a lack of belief.
There's a huge difference.
I don't believe made up stories. There's nothing there to believe in the first place. It's all a fantasy that some want to hold onto with every bit of hope and fear they can muster.
Throwing magical verses at me from a made up piece of work has a less than zero chance of any impact whatsoever.
a lack of belief.
There's a huge difference.
I don't believe made up stories. There's nothing there to believe in the first place. It's all a fantasy that some want to hold onto with every bit of hope and fear they can muster.
Throwing magical verses at me from a made up piece of work has a less than zero chance of any impact whatsoever.
rehmwa 2
QuoteThrowing magical verses at me from a made up piece of work has a less than zero chance of any impact whatsoever.
quoting verse to someone that disbelieves or is even skeptical really is the definition of counterproductive on the issue
I'm not sure why believers just don't get that
coining the phrase "preaching to the choir" doesn't work when talking to non-choir members
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