Coreece 190 #1176 July 8, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThanks, for the post, Speedracer. I, like most christians, accept evolution. Getting back to the original post, I'm not convinced that most Christians accept evolution, though I know that a lot of them do. It's not so much about not accepting evolution inasmuch as we're not actually against it...as one once said, "I like your science, I do not like your scientists." I don't think that is true of most Christians that believe in Creationism. All that I have come across have been ignorant of the science and were not interested in learning. Maybe that's because when you come across most of those christians on the internet you're more interested in trolling and pissing them off by using evolution as a means to cast doubt on faith rather than actually teaching it. You'd think that if the "evolutionists" here actually cared they have more to say about something so tangible other than appeals to ridicule and complexity, i.e., "you're too stupid to understand." Why should they give such arrogance the time of day especially when from the onset may view evolution as having little to no practical application in their personal lives? ("fine, maybe I am too stupid...piss off then, I'm busy here.") (...and as always, this of course goes both ways.)Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #1177 July 8, 2012 Like anyone could school someone on evolutionary biology over DZ.com!! What a silly excuse! The information is out there. All it takes is effort and with the internet you don't even have to spend a lot of money. Creationists are not interested in learning anything new they would rather believe what they want to believe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #1178 July 8, 2012 QuoteLike anyone could school someone on evolutionary biology over DZ.com!! What a silly excuse! You're the one making the excuse...there have been several here that cared enough to give simple explanations and refer sources without taking jabs at people.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #1179 July 8, 2012 There is no valid support for creationism. Faith has no support or it wouldn't be faith. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #1180 July 8, 2012 Why do you athiests care so much what he believes? They are his beliefs, right or wrong. Do you hope that somehow you are going to change him? I think calling people idiots or whatever, etc. says more about you than it does about him. Isn't the kind of person one is more important than what he believes? If his beliefs make him a more kind and caring person with a good moral compass, isn't that more important? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #1181 July 8, 2012 QuoteThere is no valid support for creationism. Well, we were talking about evolution...try to focus. QuoteFaith has no support or it wouldn't be faith. yet, you'll soon persist again in demanding evidence...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #1182 July 8, 2012 QuoteIf his beliefs make him a more kind and caring person with a good moral compass, isn't that more important? It might be if it did, but there is no objective proof it has. In fact, there seems to be a bit of evidence in this thread the opposite is true.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #1183 July 8, 2012 QuoteQuoteIf his beliefs make him a more kind and caring person with a good moral compass, isn't that more important? It might be if it did, but there is no objective proof it has. In fact, there seems to be a bit of evidence in this thread the opposite is true. Just like a typical "evolutionist" here to stop short when he finds only what he wants and disregards anything to the contrary.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #1184 July 8, 2012 QuoteQuoteThere is no valid support for creationism. Well, we were talking about evolution...try to focus. QuoteFaith has no support or it wouldn't be faith. yet, you'll soon persist again in demanding evidence... Creationism is what has been pushed forward as an alternative to evolution. With out evidence all you have is fantasy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #1185 July 8, 2012 QuoteWhy do you athiests care so much what he believes? They are his beliefs, right or wrong. Do you hope that somehow you are going to change him? I think calling people idiots or whatever, etc. says more about you than it does about him. Isn't the kind of person one is more important than what he believes? If his beliefs make him a more kind and caring person with a good moral compass, isn't that more important? I don't care what he believes if he didn't make claims on this forum that are patently false. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #1186 July 8, 2012 troll lalalala...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #1187 July 8, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteIf his beliefs make him a more kind and caring person with a good moral compass, isn't that more important? It might be if it did, but there is no objective proof it has. In fact, there seems to be a bit of evidence in this thread the opposite is true. Just like a typical "evolutionist" here to stop short when he finds only what he wants and disregards anything to the contrary. Ok. Great. Show me in this thread the evidence you are a "a more kind and caring person with a good moral compass." Show me what you think I've disregarded.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #1188 July 8, 2012 I think deep down you realize that there is no real evidence to support any of your beliefs and it scares you. Faith is a bullshit idea that is used to prop up the fraud that religion and deism really is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #1189 July 8, 2012 This isn't about me, but feel free to do some real research and publish your findings. I'll just sit back with some popcorn and collect the check...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #1190 July 8, 2012 troll lalala...believe whatever you want..Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #1191 July 8, 2012 QuoteThis isn't about me, but feel free to do some real research and publish your findings. I'll just sit back with some popcorn and collect the check... If it's not about you, then why be so defensive? Feeling guilty?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #1192 July 8, 2012 QuoteQuoteThis isn't about me, but feel free to do some real research and publish your findings. I'll just sit back with some popcorn and collect the check... If it's not about you, then why be so defensive? Feeling guilty? I was just using your post as an uncanny example of how "evolutionists" conduct research... QuoteFeeling guilty? No, that's not what my faith is about, though I have expressed sorry over my carnality both in these threads and life in general...it's a process. Thankfully I'm not held accountable to you.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #1193 July 8, 2012 QuoteI was just using your post as an uncanny example of how "evolutionists" conduct research... And if we didn't know how little you know about evolution or the research, this statement shows your ignorance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #1194 July 8, 2012 quite projecting...that's two posts in a row now. Feel free to show us examples of your knowledge of evolution other than blind faith...so far all I've gotten from you is that's it's too complicated.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #1195 July 8, 2012 If you want evidence of evolution then go to a museum. Do some research on your own. The fossil record shows the evolutionary process. Every branch of science has supported evolution from Geology to Astronomy. I have read the Bible. I have heard the arguments. The Creationists arguments contradict the evidence. No evidence has been produced to support any religion or deity. No evidence has been produced to support spiritualism or that a soul exists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #1196 July 8, 2012 QuoteQuoteIf his beliefs make him a more kind and caring person with a good moral compass, isn't that more important? It might be if it did, but there is no objective proof it has. In fact, there seems to be a bit of evidence in this thread the opposite is true. You have stated many times that people don't know you and that they can believe whatever they want. I assume you mean based on your postings on this website. Yet you claim to know what kind of person he is or isn't based on the same criteria. Shouldn't others recieve the same degree of allowances you demand for yourself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #1197 July 8, 2012 Dr. Eric Byrne wrote a book, Games People Play. The one that sticks in my mind the most is the one he called IGYYSOB. Or, "I've got you, you son-of-a-bitch." It plays out with these guys all the time, I'm right your wrong, you Christian SOB. It is simply adolescent argument as far as I am concerned. Maturational development is learning that adolescent rebellion has an ending point. Some of those rebellious antagonistic patterns take longer than others to grow beyond. We all hang on to some of them way past their expiration date. Some never give them up. I don't know the ages of the primary antagonistists here now but I think two of them are in their 20's and one is 30 something.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #1198 July 8, 2012 QuoteIf you want evidence of evolution then go to a museum. Do some research on your own.. My point was that I have no evidence that you've actually done this...I suspect most of what you've learned (if you've actually learned anything) to be taken on faith in real scientists...and that's ok. QuoteI have read the Bible. Me to, and I'm actually able to apply it to my life and get consistent results...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #1199 July 8, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteIf his beliefs make him a more kind and caring person with a good moral compass, isn't that more important? It might be if it did, but there is no objective proof it has. In fact, there seems to be a bit of evidence in this thread the opposite is true. You have stated many times that people don't know you and that they can believe whatever they want. I assume you mean based on your postings on this website. Yet you claim to know what kind of person he is or isn't based on the same criteria. Shouldn't others review e the same allowances you demand for yourself? There is no inconsistency in what I've written here. Go back to the top of this post and re-read what you've quoted. I'm not saying he's a bad person. I am, in fact, specifically talking about what he's written in this thread.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #1200 July 8, 2012 QuoteMy point was that I have no evidence that you've actually done this...I suspect most of what you've learned (if you've actually learned anything) to be taken on faith in real scientists...and that's ok. While I am not a scientist, whether you want to believe me or not I have gone to museums and looked into the evidence supporting evolution. The basic arguments are clear and not that hard to understand. Evolution is a fact of life. Only the crackpot Creationists try and say it's not. I don't take anything on faith. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
