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QuoteNone of which say what you claimed.
For a guy who claims to be an expert, you certainly don't appear to know what you're talking about.
quade, you actually have to read.
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Alcoholism
Alcoholism is a disease that includes alcohol craving and continued drinking despite repeated alcohol-related problems, such as...Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse Alcoholism and alcohol abuse facts What...
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Disease theory of alcoholism
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Alcohol Dependence
Classification and external resources
ICD-10 F10.2
ICD-9 303
A 1904 advertisement labeling alcoholism a "disease".
The modern disease theory of alcoholism states that problem drinking is sometimes caused by a disease of the brain, characterized by altered brain structure and function.[1] The existence of alcoholism as a disease is accepted by some within the medical and scientific communities,[2] although critics exist. The American Medical Association (AMA) had declared that alcoholism was an illness in 1956. In 1991, The AMA further endorsed the dual classification of alcoholism by the International Classification of Diseases under both psychiatric and medical sections.
Alcoholism is a disease that includes alcohol craving and continued drinking despite repeated alcohol-related problems, such as...Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse Alcoholism and alcohol abuse facts What...
Source: MedicineNet
Disease theory of alcoholism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Alcohol Dependence
Classification and external resources
ICD-10 F10.2
ICD-9 303
A 1904 advertisement labeling alcoholism a "disease".
The modern disease theory of alcoholism states that problem drinking is sometimes caused by a disease of the brain, characterized by altered brain structure and function.[1] The existence of alcoholism as a disease is accepted by some within the medical and scientific communities,[2] although critics exist. The American Medical Association (AMA) had declared that alcoholism was an illness in 1956. In 1991, The AMA further endorsed the dual classification of alcoholism by the International Classification of Diseases under both psychiatric and medical sections.
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QuoteQuoteNone of which say what you claimed.
For a guy who claims to be an expert, you certainly don't appear to know what you're talking about.
quade, you actually have to read.
Ron, you actually need to make better arguments based in facts rather than emotions.
If you want to believe alcoholism leads directly to death, that's fine, but for you to claim it's how it's defined in medicine, that is pure bullshit.
It's a bad situation to be sure. That's an emotional reaction.
Facts, however, are facts and what you claimed was bullshit in terms of a medical definition.
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RonD1120 62
See post #1241
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I'm sorry, but where in that are these words of yours, "The end result is death unless intervened by insanity or jail"?
Where?
Nowhere.
Your claim, "That is just the way medical science describes the disease" is bullshit.
Where?
Nowhere.
Your claim, "That is just the way medical science describes the disease" is bullshit.
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RonD1120 62
QuoteI'm sorry, but where in that are these words of yours, "The end result is death unless intervened by insanity or jail"?
Where?
Nowhere.
Your argument is that it is not a disease.
It is.
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QuoteAlcoholism
Alcoholism is a disease that includes alcohol craving and continued drinking despite repeated alcohol-related problems, such as...Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse Alcoholism and alcohol abuse facts What...
Source: MedicineNet
Disease theory of alcoholism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Alcohol Dependence
Classification and external resources
ICD-10 F10.2
ICD-9 303
A 1904 advertisement labeling alcoholism a "disease".
The modern disease theory of alcoholism states that problem drinking is sometimes caused by a disease of the brain, characterized by altered brain structure and function.[1] The existence of alcoholism as a disease is accepted by some within the medical and scientific communities,[2] although critics exist. The American Medical Association (AMA) had declared that alcoholism was an illness in 1956. In 1991, The AMA further endorsed the dual classification of alcoholism by the International Classification of Diseases under both psychiatric and medical sections.
OK now, alcoholism was your problem - so you have chosen to become a believer. If this was helping you - so what? It's fully OK. Go on.
But, not everybody is a problem drinker
- hence, not everybody needs to be strictly religious.
You revealed a lot about yourself - enough to doubt you are a *real believer*. I think you just *swerved*.
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QuoteQuoteI'm sorry, but where in that are these words of yours, "The end result is death unless intervened by insanity or jail"?
Where?
Nowhere.
Your argument is that it is not a disease.
I never made such a claim. Go ahead, scroll back and search for what you're claiming I said. Your claims are bullshit.
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Marinus 0
QuoteYour argument is that it is not a disease.
There's not really a consensus about alcohol being a disease, especially because it looks suspiciously like a pattern of behaviour. To me the disease theory sounds like an excellent way to have an excuse to drink, btw.
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To me the disease theory sounds like an excellent way to have an excuse to drink, btw.
Wow, thank you Marinus!
Now I'll leave that place, go to my fridge, open a bottle of wine and enjoy
Seriously: Alcoholism is accepted as an illness over here, Dutch man. And even covered by our lousy HC ...
And after stopping to drink, it just needs to dive deep into religion to feel good/normal again - holy moly! That spares money, old fellow. Just imagine every ex-drinker will become a believer instead: HC companies would do the cartwheel!
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>a step-by-step evolution of the bombardier system is really not that hard to envision.
>The scenario below shows a possible step-by-step evolution of the bombardier beetle
>mechanism from a primitive arthropod . . .
>All it takes is a little faith in evolution.
No faith needed, since science says it does not know how, exactly, the system evolved. All science can do is show that divine intervention (or an intelligent designer) is not _required_ to produce a bombardier beetle; evolutionary mechanisms can produce a bombardier beetle from similar ancestors. You can always say "I don't care about the science, I want to believe that God did it" and that's fine.
But asking for an explanation, getting it, then saying "I'm still waiting for an explanation" is dishonest.
>The scenario below shows a possible step-by-step evolution of the bombardier beetle
>mechanism from a primitive arthropod . . .
>All it takes is a little faith in evolution.
No faith needed, since science says it does not know how, exactly, the system evolved. All science can do is show that divine intervention (or an intelligent designer) is not _required_ to produce a bombardier beetle; evolutionary mechanisms can produce a bombardier beetle from similar ancestors. You can always say "I don't care about the science, I want to believe that God did it" and that's fine.
But asking for an explanation, getting it, then saying "I'm still waiting for an explanation" is dishonest.
For a guy who claims to be an expert, you certainly don't appear to know what you're talking about.
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