Most Christians accept evolution

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I doubt that without your religious belief you would have no moral compass. All people have natural empathy and a desire to help others. It doesn't come naturally to harm others unless you're mentally ill or defending your family from attack, etc.

You start with a belief statement (I doubt) and then continue on stating "facts".

Do you have any scientific evidence to back up these "facts" or are they just part of your beliefs?

Believing all people are basically good and sound and labelling those who do not conform to such behaviour as mentally ill is a concept really very similar to that preached by organized religion.

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OK.

I can work with you without using any Christian references at all. Contact me privately.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Life by the Spirit
"You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love. For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other."


It's the greatest challenge...I love it.

That was my Bible study this morning. These folks don't understand what it means to us to be challenged in the manner that they find commonplace.

Praise the Lord, I have the Holy Spirit to keep me in check.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Do you really believe in Witchcraft?

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Do you really believe in Witchcraft?

If they weren't witches, we wouldn't have burned them at the stake, now would we?

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Do you really believe in Witchcraft?

Scripture equates rebellion with witchcraft. So, in that sense, yes I do.

Some cultures engage in various forms of witchcraft, so from the perspective of cultural relativity, yes I do.

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1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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I doubt that without your religious belief you would have no moral compass. All people have natural empathy and a desire to help others. It doesn't come naturally to harm others unless you're mentally ill or defending your family from attack, etc.

You start with a belief statement (I doubt) and then continue on stating "facts".

Do you have any scientific evidence to back up these "facts" or are they just part of your beliefs?

Believing all people are basically good and sound and labelling those who do not conform to such behaviour as mentally ill is a concept really very similar to that preached by organized religion.

Hmmm...I was just giving him the benefit of the doubt that he's probably not as evil as he claims he is. The church indoctrinates people to think they are evil, vile, worthless, debased creatures, capable of nothing but through god.

Some people are actually very bad, this is true.

I love that everyone is telling me I sound "religious" though.

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OK.

I can work with you without using any Christian references at all. Contact me privately.

Thank you for the offer Ron, but I don't need any help at the moment.

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Do you really believe in Witchcraft?

Scripture equates rebellion with witchcraft. So, in that sense, yes I do.

Some cultures engage in various forms of witchcraft, so from the perspective of cultural relativity, yes I do.

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1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.

Do you think that is what the authors of those meant? Do you think they didn't believe in witchcraft as is commonly defined (not your personal definition). If you need the common definition it can be found at dictionary.com.

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and now stooped to condescension.

Given all the arrogant, narrow-minded posts, you really don't deserve even that.

Have fun.


In case you missed it the first many times....Most Christians accept evolution. You on the other hand, can't even accept another's POV.

Great. Just peachy. Great waste of air.
Get over yourself, son. Nobody is going to live their life according to your misguided whims.

Keep trying though.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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Wow talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

You can't stand me expressing my point of view here on this forum. Why don't you accept my point of view?

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there are other definitions for the word (which are more commonly used).

So, what's your problem with taking the words in the context intended as opposed to creating drama about other definitions and context?

Is that another one of those "you're screwy because you used words having definitions and context that I don't prefer?"

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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Do you really believe in Witchcraft?

Scripture equates rebellion with witchcraft. So, in that sense, yes I do.

Some cultures engage in various forms of witchcraft, so from the perspective of cultural relativity, yes I do.

edit to add:
1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.

Do you think that is what the authors of those meant? Do you think they didn't believe in witchcraft as is commonly defined (not your personal definition). If you need the common definition it can be found at dictionary.com.

I answered your question. What else are you looking for?

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Do you really believe in Witchcraft?

Scripture equates rebellion with witchcraft. So, in that sense, yes I do.

Some cultures engage in various forms of witchcraft, so from the perspective of cultural relativity, yes I do.

edit to add:
1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.

Do you think that is what the authors of those meant? Do you think they didn't believe in witchcraft as is commonly defined (not your personal definition). If you need the common definition it can be found at dictionary.com.

I answered your question. What else are you looking for?

You gave me your interpretation. I was asking if you think the authors of those writings shared your interpretation.

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I could relate the same story.

I credit myself for the hard work, dedication, self improvement, adjustments in behavior, education, improvement of life skills. Friends and family have also contributed in numerous ways that have been invaluable in my life.
Bottom line, I've succeeded based on dedication and hard work.

Nice that we all find the drive to better ourselves, no matter the fuel for the drive.

Make up your mind. Either you mean what you say here or you still want to bash people for using "fuel" that you don't approve of.

Sounds like something the college kid and the youngster would vomit up.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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Do you really believe in Witchcraft?

Scripture equates rebellion with witchcraft. So, in that sense, yes I do.

Some cultures engage in various forms of witchcraft, so from the perspective of cultural relativity, yes I do.

edit to add:
1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.

Do you think that is what the authors of those meant? Do you think they didn't believe in witchcraft as is commonly defined (not your personal definition). If you need the common definition it can be found at dictionary.com.

I answered your question. What else are you looking for?

You gave me your interpretation. I was asking if you think the authors of those writings shared your interpretation.

Are you referring to the Scripture reference?

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Do you really believe in Witchcraft?

Scripture equates rebellion with witchcraft. So, in that sense, yes I do.

Some cultures engage in various forms of witchcraft, so from the perspective of cultural relativity, yes I do.

edit to add:
1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.

Do you think that is what the authors of those meant? Do you think they didn't believe in witchcraft as is commonly defined (not your personal definition). If you need the common definition it can be found at dictionary.com.

I answered your question. What else are you looking for?

You gave me your interpretation. I was asking if you think the authors of those writings shared your interpretation.

Are you referring to the Scripture reference?

I was asking about both writings that were quoted.

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By any measure I am vastly morally and ethically superior to your archaic pre-modern Genghis Khan-like warlord god. I don't think I have much to gain in seeking guidance from people who worship such a god.

..and you're humble and kind and a pleasure to be around.

Don't worry, you'll grow out of it...hopefully.

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If you're right and your religion is true, I would be more inclined to assume the devil wrote the bible to deceive you into being evil.

Well, There's a brilliant statement. You're so close-minded you wouldn't even face the truth if it slapped your face. Congrats, kid. You just proved your true colors.

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If there is a final judgment, I don't want to be counted as someone who worshiped such a horrible force for evil in this world. Good luck with that.

You don't need luck. You've already made your choice. Have fun with it.

My God, unbelievably idiotic statements.
Wait! Don't tell me...your prof is putting you up to this insanity, right?

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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Do you really believe in Witchcraft?

...and it gets better!


Define Witchcraft.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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Do you really believe in Witchcraft?

If they weren't witches, we wouldn't have burned them at the stake, now would we?

Well, to be fair, the drowning stuff didn't work out so well.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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there are other definitions for the word (which are more commonly used).

So, what's your problem with taking the words in the context intended as opposed to creating drama about other definitions and context?

Is that another one of those "you're screwy because you used words having definitions and context that I don't prefer?"

I'm guessing that you just randomly comment without paying attention to the conversation going on.

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.... The church indoctrinates people to think they are evil, vile, worthless, debased creatures, capable of nothing but through god.

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...funny how people don't need religion of any sort to get all that.

Some people are actually very bad, this is true.

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I love that everyone is telling me I sound "religious" though.

Nah...just evangelistic in your atheism. Much more mindless, arrogant and self-righteous than any religious one.

FOR SHOTGUN:
The definition:
2: militant or crusading zeal

You figure the context.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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I was asking about both writings that were quoted.

The first two statements were mine, not quotes.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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I was asking about both writings that were quoted.

The first two statements were mine, not quotes.

The following quotes are what I was referring to not your statements.

To clarify, do you think think the authors of the following quotes shared your definition of witchcraft?

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Life by the Spirit
"You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love. For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other."

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1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.

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I was asking about both writings that were quoted.

The first two statements were mine, not quotes.

The following quotes are what I was referring to not your statements.

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Life by the Spirit
"You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love. For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other."

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1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.

Coreece posted the first one on Life by the Spirit. I believe both are true and accurate.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.