All we really have is a fundraiser in cheif

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194 and counting. Setting yet again, a record. More than the last 5 presidents combined.

One would be wise to ask when he has time to run the countries requirement.

I am so glad my taxes pay his salary.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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194 and counting. Setting yet again, a record. More than the last 5 presidents combined.

One would be wise to ask when he has time to run the countries requirement.

I am so glad my taxes pay his salary.

Show me how any aspect of either Obama's or Romney's campaign financing will resonate as a factor in how a single "swing voter" will vote this November. Otherwise, no matter how much the blogosphere blogs, or the punditry pontificates, or the partisans posture and spin, nobody who is anybody really gives a shit.

And that's today's reality check.

P.S.- your English teachers weep.

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Last I heard he is being outdone by Romney in amount of money raised; so in context - yes, he is holding more events, but given the demographics and average contribution level per supporter - not a surprise or big deal.

The nature of elections being what they are (the masses responding to media soundbites and hyperbole only), raising money is the top priority for most state and all national elected offices these days.

Go ahead, pretend you didn't know that.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Last I heard he is being outdone by Romney in amount of money raised; so in context - yes, he is holding more events, but given the demographics and average contribution level per supporter - not a surprise or big deal.

The nature of elections being what they are (the masses responding to media soundbites and hyperbole only), raising money is the top priority for most state and all national elected offices these days.

Go ahead, pretend you didn't know that.

its the quantity that has me flustered.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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Last I heard he is being outdone by Romney in amount of money raised; so in context - yes, he is holding more events, but given the demographics and average contribution level per supporter - not a surprise or big deal.

The nature of elections being what they are (the masses responding to media soundbites and hyperbole only), raising money is the top priority for most state and all national elected offices these days.

Go ahead, pretend you didn't know that.

its the quantity that has me flustered.

Me, too. Think of all the food and medicine that could be paid for with just 1/3 of all the money spent on political campaigns. I fully believe that the return-back to society from all that spending of campaign money is close to nil. The waste of it all makes me angry.

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Mitt Romney!

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but given the demographics and average contribution level per supporter - not a surprise or big deal.

True. His event at Sarah Jessica Parker's was only $40k per plate. Raised about $2 million.

Could you imagine those guests actually donating that money to a soup kitchen?

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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Last I heard he is being outdone by Romney in amount of money raised; so in context - yes, he is holding more events, but given the demographics and average contribution level per supporter - not a surprise or big deal.

The nature of elections being what they are (the masses responding to media soundbites and hyperbole only), raising money is the top priority for most state and all national elected offices these days.

Go ahead, pretend you didn't know that.

its the quantity that has me flustered.

Me, too. Think of all the food and medicine that could be paid for with just 1/3 of all the money spent on political campaigns. I fully believe that the return-back to society from all that spending of campaign money is close to nil. The waste of it all makes me angry.

Think of all the Halloween candy we could buy. After all, its all about the children isnt it? We spend nearly 7bill on Halloween. I dont think the amount we spend electing the leader of the free world is all that much.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
John Frusciante

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In all seriousness, there is no such thing as a president that doesn't spend the first term trying to win a second term. And the second term campaigning for a Presidential library and honoraria.

But if you think about it, the best fundraiser will by nature be ideally suited for the modern presidency. A person who has no problem at all asking for other people's money to be spent on himself/herself and giving some promise of a return on investment

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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We spend nearly 7bill on Halloween.

Weighing the pros & cons, I say that on balance it's worth it. First, it gives joy to kids; and in my book, that's always worth it. Second, between the candy and the associated Halloween industry, it pumps a whole lot into the economy - money, some jobs, etc. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but that works for me.

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>Second, between the candy and the associated Halloween industry, it pumps a whole
>lot into the economy - money, some jobs, etc.

Dentists, dental hygenists, amalgam manufacturers, orthodontists . . .

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>Second, between the candy and the associated Halloween industry, it pumps a whole
>lot into the economy - money, some jobs, etc.

Dentists, dental hygenists, amalgam manufacturers, orthodontists . . .

Now you know why lawyers are in favor of gay marriage.

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We spend nearly 7bill on Halloween.

Weighing the pros & cons, I say that on balance it's worth it. First, it gives joy to kids; and in my book, that's always worth it. Second, between the candy and the associated Halloween industry, it pumps a whole lot into the economy - money, some jobs, etc. Maybe I'm being simplistic, but that works for me.

Money spent on elections goes straight to the pockets of hard working citizens too. Ad money is good for local radio and TV stations. Local printers are paid for mailings, posters and signs. Transportation companies benefit from the travel as do the hotels and restaurants. etc....its a big stimulus package.

I know i sound like a wise ass but i have a serious point. I dont feel we spend all that much on the election when you compare it to other things. Halloween is a good example.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
John Frusciante

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I know i sound like a wise ass but i have a serious point. I dont feel we spend all that much on the election when you compare it to other things. Halloween is a good example.

Or the Superbowl.

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its the quantity that has me flustered.

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>Or, for another example (of many), Romney getting $36 million, and being pledged
>up to $100 million, by Sheldon Adelson?

To be fair, his car's elevator isn't going to pay for itself.

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Product of the Citizens United ruling.

If you allow some very rich people to donate 10s of millions of dollars to super pacts, then this is the result.

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Product of the Citizens United ruling.

If you allow some very rich people to donate 10s of millions of dollars to super pacts, then this is the result.

they always had the ability to donate (to the DNC or RNC) or spend vast sums.

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Not true.

Individual contributions were limited. It's only with Citizen United and the advent of the Super Pact that individual billionaires can donate 10s of millions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_reform_in_the_United_States

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Not true.

Individual contributions were limited.

Really? Then how did Soros contribute millions toward defeating Bush in '04?

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It's only with Citizen United and the advent of the Super Pact that individual billionaires can donate 10s of millions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_reform_in_the_United_States

From your link:
In early 2010, the United States Supreme Court ruled in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission that corporate funding of independent political broadcasts in candidate elections cannot be limited pursuant to the right of these entities to free speech.

You appear to be confusing individuals with corporations or unions.

Mike
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You appear to be confusing individuals with corporations or unions.

True, but then again, so did the Supreme Court.

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Not true.

Individual contributions were limited. It's only with Citizen United and the advent of the Super Pact that individual billionaires can donate 10s of millions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_reform_in_the_United_States

I'll revise. For the brief period when the unconstitutional McCainFeingold travesty was in effect, there were some limitations on soft money. But the reality is that money can get around nearly all barriers. All MF did was limit membership based organizations from having the same pull as the well heeled. I'm amazed you continue to support that violation of speech.

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In all seriousness, there is no such thing as a president that doesn't spend the first term trying to win a second term. And the second term campaigning for a Presidential library and honoraria.

But if you think about it, the best fundraiser will by nature be ideally suited for the modern presidency. A person who has no problem at all asking for other people's money to be spent on himself/herself and giving some promise of a return on investment

I guess it says so much more that he has had to spend so much time campaign.ING, as opposed to letting his record speak for its self.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun