1969912 0 #1 June 23, 2012 Please use caution watching this if you're a conservative. It's so compelling, you might get converted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NnpBFxvLxJE "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #2 June 24, 2012 Quote Please use caution watching this if you're a conservative. It's so compelling, you might get converted.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NnpBFxvLxJE Nah Democrat Party ideals are good. The intellectual elite in the party are the downfall.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #3 June 24, 2012 The problem with a term of Democrats in office is that it takes four terms or republicans to sort out the mess they leave behind. NOTE,I'm not left or right I just see it as it is. Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrmedic 0 #4 June 24, 2012 I'll just leave it at the heading, Why am I not a Democrat? Because I have job and believe I should be responsible for my self.CYA!....up there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,515 #5 June 24, 2012 Oh goodness. Does that mean I have to become a republican? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 June 24, 2012 QuoteOh goodness. Does that mean I have to become a republican? Wendy P. Only 50% if we go by this standard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #7 June 24, 2012 The first thing he mentions is "taxing oil companies." Why am I not a democrat? Because platform #1 is "tax a perceived villain to pay for a perceived righteous." It's not a platform of "we all should do it together" but a platform of "we should make them do what we wouldn't do ourselves." I'm looking forward to "why aren't you Republican." That way I can respond to it. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #8 June 24, 2012 Please keep in mind that I don't care for either party...but I'll offer this: A man visits his daughter at college. He is proud to learn she is carrying a 4.0 GPA. He asks her how her friend and roommate is doing. The girl laments, "She's been staying out late, skipping classes and doesn't study much. She's only earned a 1.9 this semester and is in danger of being expelled." The father advises his daughter, "Maybe you should go to the Dean and offer to transfer part of your GPA to your friend so she will not be in danger of being expelled." The girl gets indignant and exclaims, "Dad! I worked hard for my GPA! I got to bed early! I attended all classes and took lots of notes! I ignored parties and going out with friends so I could study! Why would I give something I worked hard for to someone who didn't work hard?" The father smiled and put his arms around his daughter as he said, "Welcome to the Republican party, sweetie!"I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 June 24, 2012 Which would be fine if we actually lived in a meritocracy wherein people got paid according to how "hard" they worked. We don't. How "hard" a person works has little to do with how much they are rewarded. The story is a distortion of reality.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #10 June 24, 2012 Quotepeople got paid according to how "hard" they worked. We don't. How "hard" a person works has little to do with how much they are rewarded Indeed. Take a person who go through Ranger School. That's a person who works his ass off but realy is not paid that well. Or, take the person who works outside in his yard. But you are using a metric of "hard work" to determine merit. I disagree with it. Hard work is but one portion of it. Ever see people who do a lot but accomplish nothing? Not effective as far as merit goes. But ti comes down to what you are working hard on. How abotu those people who work hard as an investment in their youths? Building something for the future. Not now but later. (College students often work VERY hard but don't get paid. It's the hope of gettign paid in the future). I think that haed work is really kinda ridiculous iby itself as a merit. It's gotta be hard work at something that people put value on. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #11 June 24, 2012 QuotePlease keep in mind that I don't care for either party...but I'll offer this: A man visits his daughter at college. He is proud to learn she is carrying a 4.0 GPA. He asks her how her friend and roommate is doing. The girl laments, "She's been staying out late, skipping classes and doesn't study much. She's only earned a 1.9 this semester and is in danger of being expelled." The father advises his daughter, "Maybe you should go to the Dean and offer to transfer part of your GPA to your friend so she will not be in danger of being expelled." The girl gets indignant and exclaims, "Dad! I worked hard for my GPA! I got to bed early! I attended all classes and took lots of notes! I ignored parties and going out with friends so I could study! Why would I give something I worked hard for to someone who didn't work hard?" The father smiled and put his arms around his daughter as he said, "Welcome to the Republican party, sweetie!" Yeah, I've heard that one before. Ah, but now ponder this: What would Jesus Christ say to her? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #12 June 25, 2012 High five? Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's? If a man will not work, let him not eat? Was Yeshua a Republican? I must have missed that part. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 June 25, 2012 QuoteGive to Ceasar what is Ceasar's? You do realize that means Jesus wants you to stop bitching and pay your taxes; right? Hardly a Republican sentiment.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #14 June 25, 2012 Goodness, yes. I know. He was avoiding a trap laid for him by others. They thought he was going to oppose Rome and allow them a reason to claim he was an insurgent. His response was to pay taxes as they are due and pay God what he is due. It was a clever way to avoid the trap. The coin had Ceasar's face, so they must have been his. My use of it was more along the lines of 'give the grade to the student who earned the grade'.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #15 June 25, 2012 QuoteWhich would be fine if we actually lived in a meritocracy wherein people got paid according to how "hard" they worked. We don't. How "hard" a person works has little to do with how much they are rewarded. QuoteHow "hard" a person works has little to do with how much they are rewarded. Quade, which profession are you referring to? welding? mason? landscape? foodservice? drilling? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #16 June 25, 2012 QuoteQuoteWhich would be fine if we actually lived in a meritocracy wherein people got paid according to how "hard" they worked. We don't. How "hard" a person works has little to do with how much they are rewarded. QuoteHow "hard" a person works has little to do with how much they are rewarded. Quade, which profession are you referring to? welding? mason? landscape? foodservice? drilling? Any profession you care to name. You are not paid by how "hard" your job is or how "hard" you work, but rather what is the minimum the boss can pay you to do that job. Labor is simply a commodity and effort doesn't enter into the equation. If you think it does, then you're fooling yourself. Do you really think Robert Downy Jr. gets paid $50 million for a movie because he works "harder" than the other people standing next to him who made $3 million? Not a chance. He got paid $50 million because whoever penciled the deal felt paying RDJ was worth it in terms of how much more money the movie would make with him in it as opposed to if he wasn't in it. The same is true for every job. True, you may get fired if you don't produce the results the boss thinks he paid for and you my never get promoted to a higher paying spot if you don't produce results the boss thinks that next level requires, but he's still going to pay the same amount (more or less) for that position no matter who occupies it. He doesn't really give a fuck if it's you or somebody else (he may say he does but he's not being honest). He needs the position filled. No matter what position you have and how important your boss tells you you are in it, if you died tomorrow he'd fill the spot with somebody else. Think about it this way, the last time you bought a car and were considering its price, did you do a calculation about how "hard" it was to make that car? Or, did you look at the car and just say you were willing to pay for the car at that price?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #17 June 25, 2012 Because the fanatics on the Dem side scare me just a tiny bit more than the fanatics on the Rep side. (this is, on a scale of 1 to 100, in terms of fear, reps 95 out of a 100, dems 98 out of a 100. In other words, the unreasonable fanatics of both sides are REALLY scary) I'm pretty ok with the mainstream people on both sides. Unfortunately, the nuts tend to be the ones that go after power in the groups. Though I'm not signed up to either party. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #18 June 25, 2012 QuoteYou are not paid by how "hard" your job is or how "hard" you work, but rather what is the minimum the boss can pay you to do that job. Or, by the maximum the boss can afford to pay you. trust me - I've been the lowest paid person at my business (we're talking below minimum wage) in order to have the law school valedictorian working for me instead of other places. But where's the money, Paul? Working for others? No. Working for yourself. Don't want to work for $10 an hour cleaning office buildings? Okay. Start your own business and charge $15 per hour for janitorial services. Don't want to be paid $15 per hour working as a machinist? Then charge $40 per hour at your own machine shop. Of course, the risk in this is that your business may fail. Which is why working for others is often more comfortable. Problem is, it's pretty damned difficult to start a business nowadays, depending on the business. Externalities, taxes, required insurance, etc., DO affect what employees can be paid. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #19 June 25, 2012 1. Because I believe we should be responsible for ourselves and not expect others to take care of us. 2. Because I believe in the 2nd Amendment. 3. Because I don't see success as evil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,059 #20 June 25, 2012 Same reason I'm not a republican. Neither party represents my views very well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites