Butters 0 #1 August 9, 2012 ... were "change we can believe in" and "yes we can". So, what is taking so long? Quote"Make no mistake, we will close Guantanamo prison." Barack Obama"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creep0321 0 #2 August 9, 2012 Quote... were "change we can believe in" and "yes we can". So, what is taking so long? Quote"Make no mistake, we will close Guantanamo prison." Barack Obama Change has occured, for the worse...Jack of all trades. Military Free Fall Jumpmaster. USA Static-line Jumpmaster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeFallFiend 0 #3 August 9, 2012 His latest commercials talking about getting stuck in two foreign wars suggests the new slogan will be "Let's beat Bush again!"Fiend I am about to take my last voyage, a great leap in the dark. - Thomas Hobbes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #4 August 9, 2012 QuoteHis latest commercials talking about getting stuck in two foreign wars suggests the new slogan will be "Let's beat Bush again!" More like lets beat that dead horse. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beeman 0 #5 August 9, 2012 QuoteHis latest commercials talking about getting stuck in two foreign wars suggests the new slogan will be "Let's beat Bush again!" my favorite was one I saw recently that had no statement of any platform whatsoever. It was nothing more than "Romney is rich and puts his money in foreign banks." this suggests his approach is to drastically oversimplify an idea that has no real impact or relevance. I'm guessing it'll be "because change"well...I was going skydiving anyway. let's go. Earn your pancakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #6 August 9, 2012 He's got slogans all right. Have you seen his superpac adds? "Vote for me, not the guy who hasn't paid taxes for the last 10 years." "Vote for me, not the guy who wants to take away women's rights" "Vote for me, not he guy who murdered that guys wife by taking away her health care" Probably the most decisive, hate filled and negative campaign ever. I wonder if he will ever showcase any of his accomplishments? "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #7 August 9, 2012 >Probably the most decisive, hate filled and negative campaign ever. Well, at least since the last one (remember "Sarah Palin is a pig" and "Obama wants sex ed for kindergarteners") and the one before that (remember Swiftboating?) And it will probably go down in history as the most negative campaign ever . . . at least until the 2016 election. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #8 August 9, 2012 Quote He's got slogans all right. Have you seen his superpac adds? "Vote for me, not the guy who hasn't paid taxes for the last 10 years." "Vote for me, not the guy who wants to take away women's rights" "Vote for me, not he guy who murdered that guys wife by taking away her health care" Probably the most decisive, hate filled and negative campaign ever. I wonder if he will ever showcase any of his accomplishments? He did. Unfortunately, it was a null set. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #9 August 9, 2012 Quote>Probably the most decisive, hate filled and negative campaign ever. Well, at least since the last one (remember "Sarah Palin is a pig" and "Obama wants sex ed for kindergarteners") and the one before that (remember Swiftboating?) And it will probably go down in history as the most negative campaign ever . . . at least until the 2016 election. well, they stopped having duels and then it got better, but, in recent history, you are probably correct - it keeps getting dirtier - and stupider ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #10 August 10, 2012 Quote Probably the most decisive, hate filled and negative campaign ever. Bah, I always wonder at people's lack of historical perspective when they say things like this. It is not likely to touch the Jefferson/Adams/Burr campaign or the Cleveland/Blaine election."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creep0321 0 #11 August 10, 2012 Quote He's got slogans all right. Have you seen his superpac adds? "Vote for me, not the guy who hasn't paid taxes for the last 10 years." "Vote for me, not the guy who wants to take away women's rights" "Vote for me, not he guy who murdered that guys wife by taking away her health care" Probably the most decisive, hate filled and negative campaign ever. I wonder if he will ever showcase any of his accomplishments? what accomplishments?Jack of all trades. Military Free Fall Jumpmaster. USA Static-line Jumpmaster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeFallFiend 0 #12 August 10, 2012 Well he won the Nobel peace prize for....wait, why did he win that again?Fiend I am about to take my last voyage, a great leap in the dark. - Thomas Hobbes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #13 August 10, 2012 Quotewhat accomplishments? http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ Or maybe you would prefer this or this.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beeman 0 #14 August 10, 2012 QuoteQuotewhat accomplishments? http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ Or maybe you would prefer this or this. anyone can make things sound awesome on paper. realistically, any military "accomplishment" of his is signing his name permitting other people to carry out the work they have done while he turns around and speaks badly our military and foreign policy, and expresses a desire to drastically cut our military. Though I suppose he did issue what I'm sure was an extra strongly worded statement to Mubarak and Ghadaffi. And as for any money Obama has ever "given" anyone. I'm sick and tired of hearing all the great causes he's "given" to. When he finds a way to pay for this shit, then and only then will I consider being impressed. Right now, all he's doing is paying us on our own dime, which thanks to him we have less and less chance of ever having to begin with. just my $0.02well...I was going skydiving anyway. let's go. Earn your pancakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #15 August 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuotewhat accomplishments? http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ Or maybe you would prefer this or this. anyone can make things sound awesome on paper. realistically, any military "accomplishment" of his is signing his name permitting other people to carry out the work they have done while he turns around and speaks badly our military and foreign policy, and expresses a desire to drastically cut our military. Though I suppose he did issue what I'm sure was an extra strongly worded statement to Mubarak and Ghadaffi. And as for any money Obama has ever "given" anyone. I'm sick and tired of hearing all the great causes he's "given" to. When he finds a way to pay for this shit, then and only then will I consider being impressed. Right now, all he's doing is paying us on our own dime, which thanks to him we have less and less chance of ever having to begin with. just my $0.02 You highlight a great point. There will be many people who live in denial about what Obama has accomplished as POTUS simply because they don't like Obama. Of course that doesn't mean he hasn't accomplished anything. Let's see, bin Laden was killed on his watch by his order, he brought RomneyCare to the other 49 states, he ended the war in Iraq, …Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #16 August 10, 2012 Though I suppose he did issue what I'm sure was an extra strongly worded statement to Mubarak and Ghadaffi. He sure hasn't done much to help the people of syria....If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #17 August 10, 2012 if you are basing presidency on slogans, then I think you need you head examined.....slogans are for elections. policy is what makes the country run. The president does not dictate policy. Congress does. Congress is the biggest failure of this country despite what any president might say or pretend to do. ANd yes, there is another election coming up, if you had not noticed, the rhetoric is pretty shallow on both ends..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #18 August 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewhat accomplishments? http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ Or maybe you would prefer this or this. anyone can make things sound awesome on paper. realistically, any military "accomplishment" of his is signing his name permitting other people to carry out the work they have done while he turns around and speaks badly our military and foreign policy, and expresses a desire to drastically cut our military. Though I suppose he did issue what I'm sure was an extra strongly worded statement to Mubarak and Ghadaffi. And as for any money Obama has ever "given" anyone. I'm sick and tired of hearing all the great causes he's "given" to. When he finds a way to pay for this shit, then and only then will I consider being impressed. Right now, all he's doing is paying us on our own dime, which thanks to him we have less and less chance of ever having to begin with. just my $0.02 You highlight a great point. There will be many people who live in denial about what Obama has accomplished as POTUS simply because they don't like Obama. Of course that doesn't mean he hasn't accomplished anything. Let's see, bin Laden was killed on his watch by his order, he brought RomneyCare to the other 49 states, he ended the war in Iraq, … Saddam Hussein killed far more people than OBL ever did. I don't recall hearing you singing praises to Bush for getting him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #19 August 10, 2012 Quoteif you are basing presidency on slogans, then I think you need you head examined.....slogans are for elections. policy is what makes the country run. The president does not dictate policy. Congress does. Congress is the biggest failure of this country despite what any president might say or pretend to do. Why wasn't he able to close Guantanamo prison when he controlled congress? Change, no we can't ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #20 August 10, 2012 THAT, I am disappointed in, and the wars. But he got handed a pile of shit with two wars and Gitmo. I expect it is not easy. I expect Congress still had a hand in it. Romney:" I'm gonna repeal this and repeal that on my first day".....he's gonna be pretty busy that first day don't you think? Wonder when he will have time to take a shit.... If you do not think Congress has no effect on all of these things, then wait until day 2 of Romney's Office (if he gets elected, at this point it is a toss-up) and see if 'his slogans' were kept or not. My point is, if you are basing your presidency on slogans - then you need to have your head examined. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #21 August 10, 2012 QuoteMy point is, if you are basing your presidency on slogans - then you need to have your head examined. I am not basing a presidency on slogans. I'm just attempting to show that the two sides of the same coin (Democrats and Republicans) use (meaningless) slogans and statements to rally the (ignorant) masses ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #22 August 10, 2012 Quote Quote My point is, if you are basing your presidency on slogans - then you need to have your head examined. I am not basing a presidency on slogans. I'm just attempting to show that the two sides of the same coin (Democrats and Republicans) use (meaningless) slogans and statements to rally the (ignorant) masses ... see, now you just opened the old series of "hell no, MY side isn't ignorant. Only the other guys are. That's the problem, the OTHER guys are the ONLY reason we aren't living in a paradise - it's perfectly understandable since they are pure evil. My philosophy is perfect and wonderful and we shit rainbows" ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beeman 0 #23 August 10, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotewhat accomplishments? http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ Or maybe you would prefer this or this. anyone can make things sound awesome on paper. realistically, any military "accomplishment" of his is signing his name permitting other people to carry out the work they have done while he turns around and speaks badly our military and foreign policy, and expresses a desire to drastically cut our military. Though I suppose he did issue what I'm sure was an extra strongly worded statement to Mubarak and Ghadaffi. And as for any money Obama has ever "given" anyone. I'm sick and tired of hearing all the great causes he's "given" to. When he finds a way to pay for this shit, then and only then will I consider being impressed. Right now, all he's doing is paying us on our own dime, which thanks to him we have less and less chance of ever having to begin with. just my $0.02 You highlight a great point. There will be many people who live in denial about what Obama has accomplished as POTUS simply because they don't like Obama. Of course that doesn't mean he hasn't accomplished anything. Let's see, bin Laden was killed on his watch by his order, he brought RomneyCare to the other 49 states, he ended the war in Iraq, … You're half right. I actually dislike him because the only things he actually has done I consider very negative for our country. Like I said, just because these military feats happened while he was in office doesn't mean he did anything other than give the go ahead. And given his practice of doing things like not saying the pledge or showing some kind of support for the military, I don't think it's likely he did do any more than that. As for healthcare, like I said when he finds a way to pay for all the money he's thrown at everyone, then I will consider the idea that he's done something. Lots of honest policy surrounding that thing wasn't there? Co signers and Congressmen not knowing what was actually in there, CBO either getting deceived or deceiving the country given the massive gap between their report and reality. What he did was hand us our own money that we don't have, in a manner that is starting to hurt employers and businesses. One of the things he professed, and a common reason a lot of people I heard talk about for voting for him was unification. Honestly, I hoped he would at least do that, but what has he done? Decided since he had a same party majority in Congress he wouldn't really bother with it. Sure he didn't start this huge split between parties, but he certainly never tried to help. His public speaking is pretty aligned with his actual policy, either fluffy and devoid of actual content, or insulting and sometimes condescending.well...I was going skydiving anyway. let's go. Earn your pancakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #24 August 10, 2012 Quote Let's see, bin Laden was killed on his watch by his order, he brought RomneyCare to the other 49 states, he ended the war in Iraq, … By his order? Not exactly. You might want to look into that. I give him no credit for UBL or Bush for Saddam. I'll give you Romneycare / Obamacare, but I don't consider that a good thing either time. We shall see. We were kicked out of Iraq. I get your point, but you could have picked better examples.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #25 August 10, 2012 Quote Quote Quote My point is, if you are basing your presidency on slogans - then you need to have your head examined. I am not basing a presidency on slogans. I'm just attempting to show that the two sides of the same coin (Democrats and Republicans) use (meaningless) slogans and statements to rally the (ignorant) masses ... see, now you just opened the old series of "hell no, MY side isn't ignorant. Only the other guys are. That's the problem, the OTHER guys are the ONLY reason we aren't living in a paradise - it's perfectly understandable since they are pure evil. My philosophy is perfect and wonderful and we shit rainbows" First, the world has not been, is not, and will not be a paradise. Second, the problem is that currently the other side is still the same coin ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
