Arctic sea ice

[kallend 2,108]

nsidc.org/news/press/20120827_2012extentbreaks2007record.html

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 3,078]

The ice isn't really melting; it's just a liberal Al Gore socialist lie.

Ice melts every summer! Duh.

Why don't they point out that it's currently cold in Antarctica? Maybe they don't want you to see the TRUTH!

The ice is still there, it just sank. You'd think they'd know to look for it under water. Stupid scientists.

Here's a report showing ocean COOLING! http://climatechangeskeptic.blogspot.com/ But the sheeple can't stand the facts, can they? Whenever any information or scientific paper surfaces to contradict the myth of Global warming, the global warming alarmists squirm and actually try to find reasons why the reality does not match their predisposition to believe all things in their own flawed science.

Any angles I didn't cover?

[rushmc 23]

You only missed that you hate kittens

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 858]

Can I still put ice in my whiskey?

[billvon 3,078]

>Can I still put ice in my whiskey?

You can definitely do it here:

http://www.icehotel.com/uk/ICEHOTEL/

And that's near the North Pole so I'm not sure what all those scientists are talking about anyway.

[normiss 858]

Thanks Bill, but I've actually Gone Green

[kallend 2,108]

Quote

Thanks Bill, but I've actually Gone Green

I thought I recognized you.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[normiss 858]

Web Page Blocked
Security risk to malware.

[quade 4]

Quote

Can I still put ice in my whiskey?

Heathen.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[normiss 858]

I expected that.

I'm also known to put catsup on hot dogs.
I'm a rebel.

[Remster 30]

Quote

I expected that.

I'm also known to put catsup on hot dogs.
I'm a rebel.

WTF is that? Some sick cat based sauce? Kitten killer!!!!!!!

Remster

[skydiver30960 0]

Quote

Quote

I expected that.

I'm also known to put catsup on hot dogs.
I'm a rebel.

WTF is that? Some sick cat based sauce? Kitten killer!!!!!!!

So you're saying he covers his food with the "sauce" that comes from killing kittens?

Elvisio "nobody seems to be on topic today, so just jumping on the bandwagon" rodriguez

[normiss 858]

sexier that ketchup!

[lawrocket 3]

>>> The ice isn't really melting; it's just a liberal Al Gore socialist lie. – No. Ice melts. But we’re talking about something that’s a bit more complex than “ice melted.” You know that. To those who deny science, “ice is melting” suffices. To those who appreciate science, “ice is melting” isn’t the whole answer.

>>> Ice melts every summer! Duh. – no argument.

Why don't they point out that it's currently cold in Antarctica? Maybe they don't want you to see the TRUTH! – Good question.

The ice is still there, it just sank. You'd think they'd know to look for it under water. Stupid scientists. – now you’re being flippant.

Here's a report showing ocean COOLING!http://climatechangeskeptic.blogspot.com/ But the sheeple can't stand the facts, can they? Whenever any information or scientific paper surfaces to contradict the myth of Global warming, the global warming alarmists squirm and actually try to find reasons why the reality does not match their predisposition to believe all things in their own flawed science. – I can’t open this link and I don’t’ know what it says, but I have been following this stuff and some sources are indicating a trend of cooler-than-normal temperatures for the last decade in latitudes above 80 degrees north. Meaning that “ice extent is lower because it’s warmer” is, at the very least, a highly debatable statement.

Quote

Any angles I didn't cover?

Yep. First is wind. “The deniers want to claim that prevailing winds caused the surface ice extent to be at a record low this year. As if wind has anything to do with surface ice on open sea!”

Second is storm. “The deniers claim that an intense storm in the Chukchi sea was a factor in precipitous loss of sea ice extent between August 4 and August 8. Storms don’t have anything to do with ice extent. Only climate does. They claim that passive microwave measurements don’t pick up smaller pieces of ice that visual measurements do. The nerve! Even if it was true, the only reason why they have storms in the Arctic is global warming. I watched Deadliest Catch. I know how warm it is there.”

Third is other data. NOAA isn’t showing a record yet. “Yet.” It looks to me like the 3 day moving mean is trending toward a record and we’ve got about another three weeks for melt season to end. “There’s a denier. Looking to other data again to show disagreement. It’s irresponsible to include other data.”

Fourth is another record - the sea ice extent was at LEAST a 7-year high maximum through early May, 2012. “We expect that Arctic ice would be at record extents in global warming. It’s totally what we predicted. Deniers say that global warming means less ice. They’re so wrong. More ice means global warming, unless there isn’t more ice, which proves it.”

Fifth is how much ice is there. “The deniers claim that if you add the total area of Alaska, Texas, California, Montana, New Mexico, and Arizona then you have an idea of what the sea ice extent is. That’s bullshit. We’re approaching zero ice! I read it on moveon.org.”

Sixth is the Republican Party: “Denial of global warming is just a front for the War on Women and working families. Tax cuts for the rich and denial of birth control to women has caused climate catastrophe - pea brained white male testosterone is to fault. The corporate media won’t report the truth on this, but had it not been for Barack Obama we would have an ice free Arctic right now and we’d all be dead.”

That should cover it for now.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[brenthutch 444]

From NOAA

"•The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for January–July 2012 was the 10th warmest such period on record, at 0.53°C (0.95°F) above the 20th century average."

So if there are ten years that were warmer, yet the Artic sea ice is low, it must be something other than temps. But I know that this incontinent truth is too much for you to get your brain around.

[billvon 3,078]

>So if there are ten years that were warmer, yet the Artic sea ice is low, it must be
>something other than temps. But I know that this incontinent truth is too much for you
>to get your brain around.

Are you telling us you peed in the Arctic?

[normiss 858]

Is that one of the new green behaviors we should adopt?

[masterrig 1]

Whatever happened to 'Save The Rainforests'?


Chuck

[billvon 3,078]

>Is that one of the new green behaviors we should adopt?

Only if you're incontinent . . .

[oldwomanc6 60]

Quote

>So if there are ten years that were warmer, yet the Artic sea ice is low, it must be
>something other than temps. But I know that this incontinent truth is too much for you
>to get your brain around.

Are you telling us you peed in the Arctic?

No, everyone knows that Antarctica is the continent. There is no continent at the Arctic.

lisa
WSCR 594
FB 1023
CBDB 9

[kallend 2,108]

Quote

From NOAA

"•The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for January–July 2012 was the 10th warmest such period on record, at 0.53°C (0.95°F) above the 20th century average."

So if there are ten years that were warmer, yet the Artic sea ice is low, it must be something other than temps. But I know that this incontinent truth is too much for you to get your brain around.

Your lack of knowledge of statistics is matched only by your lack of knowledge of climatology and spelling.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 3,078]

>No, everyone knows that Antarctica is the continent. There is no continent at the Arctic.

It's like the inflammable/nonflammable discussion all over again! The North Pole is apparently both noncontinent and incontinent.

[lawrocket 3]

>>>The North Pole is apparently... incontinent.

[Laugh]

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[masterrig 1]

Quote

>No, everyone knows that Antarctica is the continent. There is no continent at the Arctic.

It's like the inflammable/nonflammable discussion all over again! The North Pole is apparently both noncontinent and incontinent.

Well... that's a pissah!


Chuck

[lawrocket 3]

Antarctic Sea Ice extent has never been as much on this date. Only only six days since records have been kept has Antarctic Sea Ice Extent been larger - and those may be shattered as well. Those days were in the third week of September, 2007 - when the Arctic Ice Extent was at a record low.

I've noted with interest that record ice extent in the Antarctic seems to correlate with record low ice in the Arctic. (I understand that I'm thinking "global" here instead of "above the 80th parallel) but I haven't seen anything online about this relationship.

Note: ain't going to find data about Antarctic on NSIDC site. See the anomaly data here: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/timeseries.south.anom.1979-2008

In this data set you don’t see an anomaly of positive 1 or greater until 1994 (1994.6658 & 6685). You see 11 of 1 or greater in 1996. Then you see it for 2007.7178 through 2007.7343 (up to 1.14 anomaly). Then you go from 2007.9287 – 2008.0165 (roughly Jan. 6) above 1. (Meaning that the summer melt is very slow. You’ll find 2008 high again from roughly 2008.2000 – 2008.3500.

17 times since 1979 has extent reached 16 level (column 2). Those include the records set for seven days. (2007.7178-2007.7343). There were three days in 2010. And now there is 2012.6959-2012.7041 – the last 4 days above 16. We’ll see where it goes.

But – anybody seen anything comparing the sea ice extent in the Antarctic to the Arctic to see if there is some historical correlation?

My wife is hotter than your wife.