ShcShc11 0 #1 September 1, 2012 http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-contributor-romney-has-0-black-support-because-he-calculated-he-doesnt-need-blacks-or-latinos/ I can understand Mitt wouldn't be favoured within the African-American community, but ... 0%? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #2 September 1, 2012 Racism is alive and well. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #3 September 1, 2012 Simple stuff here. What percentage of the black community can relate to an extraordinarily wealthy white Mormon from Massachusetts. What percentage of them would benefit from the policies he intends to implement (tax cuts for the wealthy, reduced education spending, reduced entitlements, etc)? I'd guess those numbers are close to or smaller than the margin of error in that poll. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #4 September 1, 2012 Quote I can understand Mitt wouldn't be favoured within the African-American community, but ... 0%? From a sample size of "just 120 African American voters," I wouldn't expect very accurate results. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #5 September 1, 2012 Quote Quote I can understand Mitt wouldn't be favoured within the African-American community, but ... 0%? From a sample size of "just 120 African American voters," I wouldn't expect very accurate results. Well, the margin of error in any poll depends on the number of samples taken, and NOT on the size of the population those samples come from. The most likely source of error is if the sample isn't randomly chosen, rather than that it only has 120 data points.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #6 September 1, 2012 QuoteSimple stuff here. What percentage of the black community can relate to an extraordinarily wealthy white Mormon from Massachusetts. What percentage of them would benefit from the policies he intends to implement (tax cuts for the wealthy, reduced education spending, reduced entitlements, etc)? I'd guess those numbers are close to or smaller than the margin of error in that poll. Blues, Dave Ummmm...you are also describing the overwhelming majority of the caucasian community here. Except for being a caucasian male, you are describing me. So, it almost appears that you are agreeing these numbers are driven by race. It seems someone's vote is being driven by race. And since I wish I was voting for Condoleeza Rice, I doubt it is mine.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #7 September 2, 2012 Quote Quote I can understand Mitt wouldn't be favoured within the African-American community, but ... 0%? From a sample size of "just 120 African American voters," I wouldn't expect very accurate results. I'm willing to bet that if you went into Charles Rangels' district, you could poll all the African-Americans there and still get zero support for Romney. Got to keep the black man brain washed on how the white man is keeping him down...."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #8 September 2, 2012 what are we arguing about?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #9 September 2, 2012 QuoteRacism is alive and well. Now that is an accurate interpretation of the poll...as meaningless as it is.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #10 September 2, 2012 Quote I'm willing to bet that if you went into Charles Rangels' district, you could poll all the African-Americans there and still get zero support for Romney. Got to keep the black man brain washed on how the white man is keeping him down.... Well, there's this one black lesbian who might vote for him. But she was drunk when she said that, so who knows... http://www.salon.com/2012/08/29/this_black_lesbian_might_vote_for_romney/ And then there's the African Americans for Mitt Romney on facebook. But yeah, the numbers are probably pretty small, for reasons that others have mentioned. I have to admit I enjoyed Samuel Jackson's candid interview where he talked about why he voted for Obama: Quote Samuel L. Jackson said he voted for President Obama because of his color: “I voted for Barack because he was black. ’Cuz that’s why other folks vote for other people — because they look like them,” the actor says in an outspoken interview in the March issue of Ebony. Jackson sounds off on his feelings for Obama to writer Kevin Powell, saying: “That’s American politics, pure and simple. [Obama’s] message didn’t mean [bleep] to me. In the end, he’s a politician. I just hoped he would do some of what he said he was gonna do. I know politicians say [bleep]; they lie. ’Cuz they want to get elected.” Repeatedly using the N-word, Jackson added that Obama’s philosophical presence had been universally appealing: “When it comes down to it, they wouldn’t have elected a [bleep]. Because, what’s a [bleep]? A [bleep] is scary. Obama ain’t scary at all. [Bleeps] don’t have beers at the White House. [Bleeps] don’t let some white dude, while you in the middle of a speech, call [him] a liar. A [bleep] would have stopped the meeting right there and said, ‘Who the [bleep] said that?’ I hope Obama gets scary in the next four years, ’cuz he ain’t gotta worry about getting re-elected.” http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/politics_of_color_MDmhUI8zFK19t18kHfrI0M Not saying I agree with him, but I like his honesty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #11 September 2, 2012 QuoteNot saying I agree with him, but I like his honesty. So you like his racism? personally, I don't give a shit...I just like Sam Jax.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #12 September 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteNot saying I agree with him, but I like his honesty. So you like his racism? I don't like the racism, but I appreciate the honesty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #13 September 2, 2012 don't mind me...apparently my "guests" spiked my drink with absinthe...needless to say, tonight be a little interesting. I feel like painting.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #14 September 2, 2012 Quote don't mind me...apparently my "guests" spiked my drink with absinthe...needless to say, tonight be a little interesting. I feel like painting. I see. Well, may the Green Fairy bring you peace, love, and happiness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #15 September 2, 2012 Quote Quote I feel like painting. I see. Well, may the Green Fairy bring you peace, love, and happiness. That's a pretty broad bush - I can work with that. (Eat your heart out Fou Roux...)Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #16 September 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteSimple stuff here. What percentage of the black community can relate to an extraordinarily wealthy white Mormon from Massachusetts. What percentage of them would benefit from the policies he intends to implement (tax cuts for the wealthy, reduced education spending, reduced entitlements, etc)? I'd guess those numbers are close to or smaller than the margin of error in that poll. Blues, Dave Ummmm...you are also describing the overwhelming majority of the caucasian community here. Except for being a caucasian male, you are describing me. So, it almost appears that you are agreeing these numbers are driven by race. It seems someone's vote is being driven by race. And since I wish I was voting for Condoleeza Rice, I doubt it is mine. Well said Sir.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #17 September 2, 2012 Quote Quote I'm willing to bet that if you went into Charles Rangels' district, you could poll all the African-Americans there and still get zero support for Romney. Got to keep the black man brain washed on how the white man is keeping him down.... Well, there's this one black lesbian who might vote for him. But she was drunk when she said that, so who knows... http://www.salon.com/2012/08/29/this_black_lesbian_might_vote_for_romney/ And then there's the African Americans for Mitt Romney on facebook. But yeah, the numbers are probably pretty small, for reasons that others have mentioned. I have to admit I enjoyed Samuel Jackson's candid interview where he talked about why he voted for Obama: Quote Samuel L. Jackson said he voted for President Obama because of his color: “I voted for Barack because he was black. ’Cuz that’s why other folks vote for other people — because they look like them,” the actor says in an outspoken interview in the March issue of Ebony. Jackson sounds off on his feelings for Obama to writer Kevin Powell, saying: “That’s American politics, pure and simple. [Obama’s] message didn’t mean [bleep] to me. In the end, he’s a politician. I just hoped he would do some of what he said he was gonna do. I know politicians say [bleep]; they lie. ’Cuz they want to get elected.” Repeatedly using the N-word, Jackson added that Obama’s philosophical presence had been universally appealing: “When it comes down to it, they wouldn’t have elected a [bleep]. Because, what’s a [bleep]? A [bleep] is scary. Obama ain’t scary at all. [Bleeps] don’t have beers at the White House. [Bleeps] don’t let some white dude, while you in the middle of a speech, call [him] a liar. A [bleep] would have stopped the meeting right there and said, ‘Who the [bleep] said that?’ I hope Obama gets scary in the next four years, ’cuz he ain’t gotta worry about getting re-elected.” http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/politics_of_color_MDmhUI8zFK19t18kHfrI0M Not saying I agree with him, but I like his honesty. Joking aside, I never ceased to be shocked at how racially divided the USA is, its actually genuinely shocking. The amount of racism is unbelievable, and I'm not just talking about from white people, black racism and latino racism also, quite unbelievable.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #18 September 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteSimple stuff here. What percentage of the black community can relate to an extraordinarily wealthy white Mormon from Massachusetts. What percentage of them would benefit from the policies he intends to implement (tax cuts for the wealthy, reduced education spending, reduced entitlements, etc)? I'd guess those numbers are close to or smaller than the margin of error in that poll. Blues, Dave Ummmm...you are also describing the overwhelming majority of the caucasian community here. Except for being a caucasian male, you are describing me. So, it almost appears that you are agreeing these numbers are driven by race. It seems someone's vote is being driven by race. And since I wish I was voting for Condoleeza Rice, I doubt it is mine. I'm sure there is a subset who votes for Obama on the basis of race, and there's also a subset who votes against him on the basis of race. Someone here has stated that he believes ALL black people vote for Obama because of race, while completely ignoring what percentage of them also vote for the Democrat when he's white. Suddenly, because Obama's black, that must be the only reason black people vote for him, which is a pretty racist opinion in and of itself. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJonathan 0 #19 September 2, 2012 KKR and Bain Capital, the buy-out firm co-founded by Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, are two of at least a dozen private equity groups reported to be under investigation over a strategy that allegedly saved them hundreds of millions of dollars in tax. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #20 September 2, 2012 Quote I see. Well, may the Green Fairy bring you peace, love, and happiness. (next day) Meh...fat chance. ...but thanks, babe.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killler 2 #21 September 4, 2012 That's what ALL people and company's do..... I don't know ONE person that pays one dollar more then they need to... I would not elect a person that wasted his money like that...It's always funny that everyone wants the other guy to pay.. Killler . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJonathan 0 #22 September 4, 2012 It's funny that Mitt Romney wants the rest of us to pay his taxes. Not very presidential. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killler 2 #23 September 4, 2012 Mitt made alot of money... Good for him.. I don't have a problem with it... You on the other hand seem upset that he's rich and your not... People should stop counting everyone else's money.. Killler... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJonathan 0 #24 September 4, 2012 Democracies rely on a spirit of trust and co-operation in paying taxes. If every individual devoted as much energy and resources as the rich do to avoiding their fair share of taxes, the tax system either would collapse, or would have to be replaced by a far more intrusive and coercive scheme. Both alternatives are unacceptable. More broadly, a market economy could not work if every contract had to be enforced through legal action. But trust and co-operation can survive only if there is a belief that the system is fair. Recent research has shown that a belief that the economic system is unfair undermines both co-operation and effort. Yet, increasingly, Americans are coming to believe that their economic system is unfair; and the tax system is emblematic of that sense of injustice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #25 September 4, 2012 Quoteavoiding their fair share of taxes this is code for "paying the minimum legal amount" right? key word being 'Legal' as something defined vs 'Fair' as nonsense subjective fluffery so if the issue is about the tax law, why attack individuals that are following the law? Seems a flat tax without a bunch of special categories and rates would simplify the mix a LOT ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
