flyboy8501 0 #1 September 8, 2012 I'm fixing to return from Afghanistan in about 4 months and I'm having a hard time finding a weapon of choice. I don't want a pussy 9mil Maybe a .40 or .45. I've been looking at the springfield 1911, And many versions of the glock. What should I get will drop a dumbass but still be compact enough to conceal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #2 September 8, 2012 It would be cooler if everyone, even the cops, went with non-lethal weapons. A lot of the mistakes being made are people being killed when a kinder solution could have easily been applied. I don't want to be killed by a gun for the wrong reasons. Do you? You don't want me to shoot you, 3 months later, for tazing me for the wrong reasons either do you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Born2Late 0 #3 September 8, 2012 My two choices: http://us.glock.com/products/model/g23 http://us.glock.com/products/model/g36 Thank You for your service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyboy8501 0 #4 September 8, 2012 I assure you that I'm not going to shoot anyone unless it's life and death. If more people carried guns, than these shooting rampages might have less casualities. I have been in the army long enough to make the right decision. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #5 September 8, 2012 I just want to thank you for your service. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #6 September 8, 2012 +1Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #7 September 8, 2012 Shoot to thrill, Brah. I wish you well in your transition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WickedWingsuits 0 #8 September 8, 2012 Take a look at a SIG P229 http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p229.aspx The barrel is interchanable with .40, 9mm, .357 and .22. Nice if there is a shortage of a specific ammo and gives cheaper options for practices. I like 9mm myself but that's a different discussion that nobody ever comes out ahead on!Summer Rental special, 5 weeks for the price of 4! That is $160 a month. Try before You Buy with Wicked Wingsuits - WingsuitRental.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 September 8, 2012 QuoteI'm fixing to return from Afghanistan in about 4 months and I'm having a hard time finding a weapon of choice. I don't want a pussy 9mil Maybe a .40 or .45. I've been looking at the springfield 1911, And many versions of the glock. What should I get will drop a dumbass but still be compact enough to conceal? What did the military give you as a side arm?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyboy8501 0 #10 September 8, 2012 I was issued a Beretta M9. Not really my favorite gun ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #11 September 8, 2012 QuoteI was issued a Beretta M9. Not really my favorite gun ever. What is?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #12 September 8, 2012 For a small carry check out the Springfield XDs. It's a very small single stack .45 ACP hand gun that's slim and easy to carry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyboy8501 0 #13 September 8, 2012 I checked out the SIG, It's freaking nice! I'll add this to my list of choices, good thing is I have 4 months to decide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #14 September 8, 2012 Everyone I know who's back from deployment hates the M9. Of those people, they are carrying a variety. One carries a glock, a couple a Springfield XD, one loves his CZ-75 (in .40) and several carry a couple of different full size 1911 variants. You probably need something thin so you don't have a huge bulge somewhere. I've got enough of a gut I could likely get away with something with a nice fat double-stack grip, but I carry a 1911. (I suspect you don't have the gut I do) My friend with the CZ-75 tells me the CZ-97 is also nice (.45ACP) but I don't know much else about it. It seems that with a 4-oclock inside the waistband (which is how I typically carry), width is more of a concealment issue than length. With appendix carry (as opposed to 4-oclock) length is a comfort issue. The downsides to polymer framed handguns is the perceived recoil force is higher due to the lighter weight. Of course the lighter weight is a positive wrt comfort of carry. In the end, there are concealment systems for pretty much anything. Find a .40 or .45 you like, pick up a version that will conceal well depending on how you intend to carry.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyboy8501 0 #15 September 8, 2012 I lean more towards springfield armory and glock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilot-one 0 #16 September 8, 2012 H&K HK45 Compact is a great CCW gun. The Kimber compact 1911's are really good guns too and conceal easily. I personally have both of these guns and several more but my choice for carry is a modified S&W M&P 9 Compact. It is small and with the right ammo does nearly the damage the 40 SW will do. I would stay away from the Glock or any other gun that does not have a mechanical thumb safety unless you are very proficient with holstering and use a holster that will minimize the risk of a negligent discharge. I have seen more than once a weapon holstered along with a part of clothing and the ensuing unintentional discharge because the trigger safety was satisfied. Carrying OWB is a little different in this respect but IWB you are asking for trouble. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyboy8501 0 #17 September 8, 2012 Great advise, I have many years of experience with handling weapons, I grew up with a father that was in the army for years, so as a child, I knew gun safety. I have never had an ND but have also heard of the clothes catching the trigger so I'm not saying I will never have one I Will look into that as well and thanks for your input! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #18 September 8, 2012 QuoteI lean more towards springfield armory and glock. I think my entire point would be something you're already extremely familiar with or something you love. Sadly, those two don't seem to go together right at this moment. I realise the M9 and variants aren't nessasrily the most popular, but they are a base line and combat proven, as of course is the 1911, which you're not quite as familiar with. But again, my entire point here is its going to be something you have with you almost 24/7...like anythng you carry like that, whether its a gun or cell phone...I think you personally want to love it...no matter what caliber. Recommendations from other people will be helpful, but I think you need to lay some hands on them and use them a bit before you can answer the question yourself, "do I really want to carry this around with me wherever I go 24/7?" I think you might even reconsider the slightly smaller 9mm when you really think and size and weight. Just a thought about devices in general...quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyboy8501 0 #19 September 8, 2012 Yea the M9 has been battle proven, but as a concealed weapon, not so great. I have experience with the springfield 1911 but not enough to say that's the one I want. I just like to know what other people like so I can try it out and see for myself. Experience and knowledge is a great asset when shared with others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #20 September 8, 2012 QuoteI think you need to lay some hands on them and use them a bit before you can answer the question yourself, "do I really want to carry this around with me wherever I go 24/7?" I think you might even reconsider the slightly smaller 9mm when you really think and size and weight. I've always loved SigS, but when considering your question, a nice little J-frame .38 is extremely comfortable.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #21 September 8, 2012 Answers and opinions are going to be many and varied. Go with a frame similar to what you're familiar with. There are smaller 1911 types and they carry concealed well, it is all in how it is done. But, no matter what you choose in the end, TRAINING with it is key to successfully using it, as you know. We may have years if training in using a Carbine/Rifle, but let's be honest about the military Pistol training, outside of SOF Trained Individuals and some Mil LEO's, it is a "block checked. 50 rounds on paper lets go home" kind of day. Just like the Military tends to have us go through annual recert, use that same mind set (as a minimum) to stay current with what you're using for carry purposes. Be safe, get back stateside unscathed! MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsisson 0 #22 September 8, 2012 Find something that you will actually carry. Let me explain...I have a 1911 .45, commander size...and I bet I only carry it 20% of the times I leave the house because it's a pain in the ass to dress around. On the other hand, I find that 100% of the time I leave the house, I have my Ruger LCP .380...because it slips in my pocket and is easy to carry. Now...which would you prefer if the shit hits the fan...the .380 that is in your pocket...or the .45 which is at home in the gun safe? There are times when I have both with me...but that again only represents about 20% of the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #23 September 8, 2012 Sounds like you aren't a fan of the 9mm.......... With that said, the Glock 26 is my choice, small concealable, plenty of rounds. I'm not a big fan of the .40 or .45 in a smaller framed gun. Just a personal choice. my 2 cents...... 9mm Corbon +P+ jacketed hollow points zip downrange over 1200fps. IMHO the Glock is the best/easiest weapon to transition to, basically point, pull the trigger, shoot. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #24 September 8, 2012 Whats wrong with a 9mm? Other then that its not manly enough for you?Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #25 September 8, 2012 Quote Whats wrong with a 9mm? Other then that its not manly enough for you? I'm sure the following debate will be short, to the point, supported by facts and definitive. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
