Coreece 190 #151 September 17, 2012 QuoteSo words are their meanings must be 'interpreted'? Yes...Christ spoke many parables that still to this day need to be explained for some people. Peter even said of Paul's writings: "There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures." Do you really understand the following question after first glance: "Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? I think it's important for leaders to be trained to explain scripture so they don't start teacing people to go out and kill arabs in the practical aplication of their self serving interpretation.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #152 September 17, 2012 Quote>>Ah. And catholics aren't christians? >Not if that's how they interpret scripture.... So using your logic, would Sunni Muslims not be Muslims? Would you call a creation scientist a real scientist?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #153 September 17, 2012 QuoteSo words are their meanings must be 'interpreted'? The must be interpreted in such a way that they don't conflict with "Christianity is Great" Example: the word "slavery" must be interpreted as "unpayed volunteering work" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #154 September 17, 2012 Quote>First of all...in case you didn't know, the Pope is Catholic...nuff said. Ah. And catholics aren't christians? That certainly is debatable, reference Martin Luther and his Wittenberg Theses, all 95 of them. It depends on whom the catholic considers as having authority.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #155 September 17, 2012 Quote So words are their meanings must be 'interpreted'? Thats how reading works.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #156 September 17, 2012 Everywhere except the bible apparently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #157 September 17, 2012 QuoteThats how reading works. No, that's how apologetics work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #158 September 18, 2012 Quote Quote So words are their meanings must be 'interpreted'? Thats how reading works. No wonder there is so much confusion... From Oxford: Read verb 1. look at and comprehend the meaning of (written or printed matter) by interpreting the characters or symbols of which it is composed.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #159 September 18, 2012 Apologetics Noun 1) The act of whining about context, when confronted with a disturbing religious text from one's favourite religion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #160 September 18, 2012 QuoteApologetics Noun 1) The act of whining about context, when confronted with a disturbing religious text from one's favourite religion. It just bothers me when you twist the scripture to say that I'm only a good christian if I hate you. Just because I despise anal leaking, doesn't mean I despise you. If I hated everyone who sinned and started killing them, I'd be a very lonely hypocrite who'd eventual have to kill himself. Without apologetics, evil illiterate morons who lack the ability to comprehend the historical, cultural and circumstantial context can twist scripture to justify cutting off their own genitalia, killing a child and then eating their flesh...I'm here to help make sure things like that don't happen. Ironically, your type of indignation tends to promote it. There are some people out there who will listen to you and say, "you know...he's right. I should hate fags."Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #161 September 18, 2012 I'll admit that the bible is so inconsistent you can support about anything with it. I also have the impression that people generally don't turn to the bible for moral guidance, they look for texts that support their established ethics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #162 September 21, 2012 Good things can happen when one doesn't knee-jerk a response for political purposes. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #163 September 27, 2012 QuoteGood things can happen when one doesn't knee-jerk a response for political purposes. Blues, Dave Agreed. More so when the administration carefully crafts a story to cover their collective asses. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/27/us-officials-knew-libya-attack-was-terrorism-within-24-hours-sources-confirm/Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #164 September 27, 2012 If it weren't such a serious incident, it would almost be funny hearing the current administration talking out of both sides of their mouths on this one. It's the video! It's terrorism! More likely - we really have almost no clue because we suck at international relations to the point the current administration doesn't even understand the meaning nor the purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #165 September 27, 2012 QuoteIf it weren't such a serious incident, it would almost be funny hearing the current administration talking out of both sides of their mouths on this one. It's the video! It's terrorism! More likely - we really have almost no clue because we suck at international relations to the point the current administration doesn't even understand the meaning nor the purpose. Or if they tell what they actually know, the right would be all over them for revealing national security secrets.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #166 September 27, 2012 Quote Quote If it weren't such a serious incident, it would almost be funny hearing the current administration talking out of both sides of their mouths on this one. It's the video! It's terrorism! More likely - we really have almost no clue because we suck at international relations to the point the current administration doesn't even understand the meaning nor the purpose. Or if they tell what they actually know, the right would be all over them for revealing national security secrets. Another post from a classic Obama supporter"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #167 September 27, 2012 Quote Quote Quote If it weren't such a serious incident, it would almost be funny hearing the current administration talking out of both sides of their mouths on this one. It's the video! It's terrorism! More likely - we really have almost no clue because we suck at international relations to the point the current administration doesn't even understand the meaning nor the purpose. Or if they tell what they actually know, the right would be all over them for revealing national security secrets. Another post from a classic Obama supporter You have a short memory.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #168 September 27, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote If it weren't such a serious incident, it would almost be funny hearing the current administration talking out of both sides of their mouths on this one. It's the video! It's terrorism! More likely - we really have almost no clue because we suck at international relations to the point the current administration doesn't even understand the meaning nor the purpose. Or if they tell what they actually know, the right would be all over them for revealing national security secrets. Another post from a classic Obama supporter You have a short memory. A short memory is the best you can do when you post a comment that kicks you from both sides??? Yep A CLASSIC Obama supporter in action "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #169 September 27, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote If it weren't such a serious incident, it would almost be funny hearing the current administration talking out of both sides of their mouths on this one. It's the video! It's terrorism! More likely - we really have almost no clue because we suck at international relations to the point the current administration doesn't even understand the meaning nor the purpose. Or if they tell what they actually know, the right would be all over them for revealing national security secrets. Another post from a classic Obama supporter You have a short memory. A short memory is the best you can do when you post a comment that kicks you from both sides??? Yep A CLASSIC Obama supporter in action You have a very short memory. www.nytimes.com/2012/08/16/us/politics/ex-military-and-cia-officers-attack-obama-over-bin-laden-leaks.html?_r=0... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #170 September 27, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote If it weren't such a serious incident, it would almost be funny hearing the current administration talking out of both sides of their mouths on this one. It's the video! It's terrorism! More likely - we really have almost no clue because we suck at international relations to the point the current administration doesn't even understand the meaning nor the purpose. Or if they tell what they actually know, the right would be all over them for revealing national security secrets. Another post from a classic Obama supporter You have a short memory. A short memory is the best you can do when you post a comment that kicks you from both sides??? Yep A CLASSIC Obama supporter in action You have a very short memory. www.nytimes.com/2012/08/16/us/politics/ex-military-and-cia-officers-attack-obama-over-bin-laden-leaks.html?_r=0 No Actually I remember that and others very well And thanks for putting up a link that again shows you to be a classic Obama supporter"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #171 September 27, 2012 Impossible to debate your non-sequitur style. Debating with you is like being at the Mad Hatter's tea party.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #172 September 27, 2012 Quote Impossible to debate your non-sequitur style. Debating with you is like being at the Mad Hatter's tea party. I know you don’t get it So you defend the indefensible You can’t because Obama is perfect to you Do you get the tingles up just one leg? Or both?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #173 September 27, 2012 QuoteQuote Impossible to debate your non-sequitur style. Debating with you is like being at the Mad Hatter's tea party. I know you don’t get it So you defend the indefensible You can’t because Obama is perfect to you Do you get the tingles up just one leg? Or both? Twinkle twinkle little bat How I wonder what you're at...... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #174 September 27, 2012 Twinkle twinkle little bat How I wonder what you're at... Considering where you must be looking from, this is very understandable"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites