More Florida Voter Fraud

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Obama campaign's robocall about early voting called misleading

Pasco County Supervisor of Elections Brian Corley is warning voters about potentially misleading early voting information after his office received hundreds of inquiries from voters Tuesday wanting to cast early ballots.Early voting in Florida doesn't begin until Oct. 27 and lasts through Nov. 3. Corley traced one of the complaints to a robocall from Organizing for America, an arm of the Democratic Party.



OFA spokesman Eric Jotkoff said the call refers to a program where voters can request an absentee ballot at the elections office and fill it out on the spot. Corley said that program is known as a "carry-out absentee ballot," which is available now. But he said some voters specifically mentioned early voting.



"It is causing, I would say, massive confusion," Corley said. "The problem is the message going out is severely misleading."



Jotkoff provided the Times with a copy of the robocall script, which does not use the term "early voting." This issue arose a day after Corley took a complaint from a voter about an OFA volunteer who initially said he worked for the elections office. The man told the voter there was a problem with her voter registration status, though officials confirmed her registration is fine.



Corley said voters should call his office toll-free at 1-800-851-8754 if they have questions about their registration status. Voters can also check that information at pascovotes.com.

[tkhayes 348]

Reason number 62 why corporations and corporate interests should be cut completely out of politics. Republicans are just as bad.

And it is not really voter fraud - nothing 'fraudulent' actually happened given that under the Constitution, i can stand on a street corner and tell you anything I want, regardless of how much of a lie it is.

It's as annoying as fuck and serves no purpose. I am all for jail time for things like this, mandatory. Every time.

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Agreed.

I am also opposed to early voting. Too much can happen in the final weeks of a campaign that could influence an election. Because once a person has voted, they cannot recind that vote no matter how egregious subsequent information could be.

[tkhayes 348]

Early voting is fine - I am for any and all opportunities to vote, regardless of the changes between dates - you vote, you take yer chances.

Whatever the outcome is, I support ANY way of voting and anything that gets more people to vote.

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I support a voting week instead of just one day. I always seem to get bogged down the day I need to vote. I say have an entire week and don't announce anything until all votes are in and have been counted. That should also help with those people who live in the swamps you are always so concerned about.

[kallend 2,027]

Can you explain how that is "fraud"?

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Can you explain how that is "fraud"?

Yeah, here's the dictionary definition of "fraud". I'll let you noodle it out.

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1.
deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.

2.
a particular instance of such deceit or trickery: mail fraud; election frauds.

3.
any deception, trickery, or humbug: That diet book is a fraud and a waste of time.

4.
a person who makes deceitful pretenses; sham; poseur.

[kallend 2,027]

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Can you explain how that is "fraud"?

Yeah, here's the dictionary definition of "fraud". I'll let you noodle it out.

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1.
deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.

2.
a particular instance of such deceit or trickery: mail fraud; election frauds.

3.
any deception, trickery, or humbug: That diet book is a fraud and a waste of time.

4.
a person who makes deceitful pretenses; sham; poseur.

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Jotkoff provided the Times with a copy of the robocall script, which does not use the term "early voting."

So you can't actually explain how this is FRAUD.

Thought not.

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Agreed.

I am also opposed to early voting. Too much can happen in the final weeks of a campaign that could influence an election. Because once a person has voted, they cannot recind that vote no matter how egregious subsequent information could be.

so absentee voting shouldn't be allowed either then. because I can send it in before voting day, and something might happen.

This year I have to early or absentee vote. I will be out of the country on election day. I'm glad you don't make the rules.

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Can you explain how that is "fraud"?

Yeah, here's the dictionary definition of "fraud". I'll let you noodle it out.

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1.
deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.

2.
a particular instance of such deceit or trickery: mail fraud; election frauds.

3.
any deception, trickery, or humbug: That diet book is a fraud and a waste of time.

4.
a person who makes deceitful pretenses; sham; poseur.

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Jotkoff provided the Times with a copy of the robocall script, which does not use the term "early voting."

So you can't actually explain how this is FRAUD.

Thought not.

Actually I can and did. Don't blame me if you don't understand what fraud is. I tried to give you the definition, hoping you could relate it to to the article. Apparently I was wrong.

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Agreed.

I am also opposed to early voting. Too much can happen in the final weeks of a campaign that could influence an election. Because once a person has voted, they cannot recind that vote no matter how egregious subsequent information could be.

so absentee voting shouldn't be allowed either then. because I can send it in before voting day, and something might happen.

This year I have to early or absentee vote. I will be out of the country on election day. I'm glad you don't make the rules.

It's obvious to almost anyone I was talking about early voting and not absentee voting.

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Agreed.

I am also opposed to early voting. Too much can happen in the final weeks of a campaign that could influence an election. Because once a person has voted, they cannot recind that vote no matter how egregious subsequent information could be.

so absentee voting shouldn't be allowed either then. because I can send it in before voting day, and something might happen.

This year I have to early or absentee vote. I will be out of the country on election day. I'm glad you don't make the rules.

It's obvious to almost anyone I was talking about early voting and not absentee voting.

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Jotkoff provided the Times with a copy of the robocall script, which does not use the term "early voting."

So a voter was confused and misinterpreted what was in the phone call, and somehow that turns into fraud?

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voting information after his office received hundreds of inquiries from voters Tuesday wanting to cast early ballots.

You really need to improve your reading comprehension.

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It's obvious to almost anyone I was talking about early voting and not absentee voting.

It was obvious to me too. And you might have known that had you read the part where I said "so absentee voting shouldn't be allowed either then. because I can send it in before voting day".

It's the same situation with respect to voting before all the information is out.

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Because once a person has voted, they cannot recind that vote no matter how egregious subsequent information could be.

Once I send in my absentee vote, I can not rescind that vote no matter how egregious subsequent information could be.

In any case. I intend to early vote.

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Rob

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The solution would be to vote online. Then someone can vote from anywhere on the actual Election Day from anywhere in the world.

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while I agree in principal, that brings a whole other set of security problems.

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The solution would be to vote online. Then someone can vote from anywhere on the actual Election Day from anywhere in the world.

Call me old fashioned, but I think you should have to be there in person to vote.

This involves an extended period for casting your vote. Our society has become mobile enough to support this IMO.

This, especially, involves letting our service members (and their families) vote, in person from wherever they happen to be during this election. And COUNTING their vote, instead of basically throwing their (absentee) vote in the trash bin. These absentee votes may or may not make a difference, but it is a slap in the face of all the service members who aren't lucky enough to be visiting their home of record at the time of the election.

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